Re: FTAGH: R2CR5
Hi! On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:11 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > Dmitry Gromov wrote: >> >> Hi! >> >> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:11 AM, P. J. Alling >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Sorry, I can't seem to keep my chemistries straight. I have used the CR1 >>> form factor cells because they were more convenient. They work fine. >>> They >>> still didn't seem to last as long just stiiting as the silver oxides, >>> they >>> seem to have a faster self discharge rate. >>> >> >> >> Ok, great, thank you for the confirmation! They are convenient, I >> agree, but they seems to be more expensive than silver oxide... >> > > Back when pretty much every camera used button cells and a lot of cameras > started using two due to the increased power drain from everything becoming > electrically controlled, they were pretty much on par as far as price goes. > Now they're a specialty item. LR44/S76 etc. are still used in hearing aids > among other things so there's still a fairly large demand which leads to a > large supply, and the rules of economics take over. > > I started using only the silver oxide cells when my original HP-42s died, > (it used PX13 mercury cells), and HP replaced it with an upgrade that used > 1.5 volt button cells. After a replacing the LR44's twice in a year, I > tried the S-76 and replace them once every, two or three years. I have a > pocket digital multimeter that runs on them too. As long as I remember to > turn it off between uses they seem to last forever. > Very useful information for me, thank you! CR1 are actually being used in dog's collars as far as I can tell and there is still some demand for them... But I'll switch over to S76/SR44 after I run out of the order I placed... Dmitry -- //DG LOC(NJ) //* -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FTAGH: R2CR5
Dmitry Gromov wrote: Hi! On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:11 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: Sorry, I can't seem to keep my chemistries straight. I have used the CR1 form factor cells because they were more convenient. They work fine. They still didn't seem to last as long just stiiting as the silver oxides, they seem to have a faster self discharge rate. Ok, great, thank you for the confirmation! They are convenient, I agree, but they seems to be more expensive than silver oxide... Back when pretty much every camera used button cells and a lot of cameras started using two due to the increased power drain from everything becoming electrically controlled, they were pretty much on par as far as price goes. Now they're a specialty item. LR44/S76 etc. are still used in hearing aids among other things so there's still a fairly large demand which leads to a large supply, and the rules of economics take over. I started using only the silver oxide cells when my original HP-42s died, (it used PX13 mercury cells), and HP replaced it with an upgrade that used 1.5 volt button cells. After a replacing the LR44's twice in a year, I tried the S-76 and replace them once every, two or three years. I have a pocket digital multimeter that runs on them too. As long as I remember to turn it off between uses they seem to last forever. As an asside nothing seems to beat murcury cells for longevity in occasional use. I've tog one in a Spotmatic F that must be over 30 years old that still powered the meter last time I checked. Wow, that's impressive. Sad, they don't make those anymore as far as I know. Dmitry -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FTAGH: R2CR5
Hi! On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:11 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > Sorry, I can't seem to keep my chemistries straight. I have used the CR1 > form factor cells because they were more convenient. They work fine. They > still didn't seem to last as long just stiiting as the silver oxides, they > seem to have a faster self discharge rate. Ok, great, thank you for the confirmation! They are convenient, I agree, but they seems to be more expensive than silver oxide... > As an asside nothing seems to > beat murcury cells for longevity in occasional use. I've tog one in a > Spotmatic F that must be over 30 years old that still powered the meter last > time I checked. > Wow, that's impressive. Sad, they don't make those anymore as far as I know. Dmitry -- //DG LOC(NJ) //* -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FTAGH: R2CR5
Dmitry Gromov wrote: Hi! On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 9:52 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: LR44 batteries are lithium based, S-76 are silver oxide with the same form factor. There's just no comparison. The silver based batteries last a very long time in most every device. The S-76 batteries in my HP 42s haven't been changed in at least three years. I haven't been using my film cameras very much lately, but the silver oxide batteries in the LX and MX cameras haven't been changed in at least 5 years. They cost a bit more, sometimes more than three times as much, but they last a lot longer than three times as long. Hmm... I did some search and it looks like LR44 are alkaline and silver oxide SR series should actually have 50% more juice in them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_battery_sizes#Silver_oxide_and_alkaline_cells What I'm more curious if anyone tried CR11108 in LX - those are actually lithium and replace two LR44/SR44 cells, from the same link: "A CR1/3N was also used by photographers instead of 2 LR44 batteries, in cameras such as the Nikon EM or FE2." Ordered 5-pack of those, will risk of trying them myself... Dmitry Sorry, I can't seem to keep my chemistries straight. I have used the CR1 form factor cells because they were more convenient. They work fine. They still didn't seem to last as long just stiiting as the silver oxides, they seem to have a faster self discharge rate. As an asside nothing seems to beat murcury cells for longevity in occasional use. I've tog one in a Spotmatic F that must be over 30 years old that still powered the meter last time I checked. -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FTAGH: R2CR5
Hi! On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 9:52 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > LR44 batteries are lithium based, S-76 are silver oxide with the same form > factor. There's just no comparison. The silver based batteries last a very > long time in most every device. The S-76 batteries in my HP 42s haven't > been changed in at least three years. I haven't been using my film cameras > very much lately, but the silver oxide batteries in the LX and MX cameras > haven't been changed in at least 5 years. They cost a bit more, sometimes > more than three times as much, but they last a lot longer than three times > as long. > Hmm... I did some search and it looks like LR44 are alkaline and silver oxide SR series should actually have 50% more juice in them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_battery_sizes#Silver_oxide_and_alkaline_cells What I'm more curious if anyone tried CR11108 in LX - those are actually lithium and replace two LR44/SR44 cells, from the same link: "A CR1/3N was also used by photographers instead of 2 LR44 batteries, in cameras such as the Nikon EM or FE2." Ordered 5-pack of those, will risk of trying them myself... Dmitry -- //DG LOC(NJ) //* -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FTAGH: R2CR5
LR44 batteries are lithium based, S-76 are silver oxide with the same form factor. There's just no comparison. The silver based batteries last a very long time in most every device. The S-76 batteries in my HP 42s haven't been changed in at least three years. I haven't been using my film cameras very much lately, but the silver oxide batteries in the LX and MX cameras haven't been changed in at least 5 years. They cost a bit more, sometimes more than three times as much, but they last a lot longer than three times as long. Dmitry Gromov wrote: Hi! On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 6:30 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: The s-76 batteries for the LXen and MXen are still good, but I feel your pain. Question - what are the best batteries for LX? I used some Maxell LR44, but a pair could only hold up for 4 rolls... Is LX that power hungry? Are my batteries not so good? I also found that CR11108 or CR1/3N could be used and are better - lithium cells... Any advice? Thanks! Dmitry -- //DG LOC(NJ) //* -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FTAGH: R2CR5
Hi! On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 6:30 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > The s-76 batteries for the LXen and MXen are still good, but I feel your pain. > Question - what are the best batteries for LX? I used some Maxell LR44, but a pair could only hold up for 4 rolls... Is LX that power hungry? Are my batteries not so good? I also found that CR11108 or CR1/3N could be used and are better - lithium cells... Any advice? Thanks! Dmitry -- //DG LOC(NJ) //* -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FTAGH: R2CR5
Those were always too expensive. I have only two auto focus film cameras an MZ3 and a ZX-5n, and I have the battery, well grip is the wrong word, but you know. Anyway, all my old batteries for that went into flash units. The s-76 batteries for the LXen and MXen are still good, but I feel your pain. Joseph McAllister wrote: I have a half dozen of those (not rechargeable) that expired last year, or last, that will be thrown out next year unless someone steps forward. Same with a half dozen CR123A units. All Sanyo, still in blister packs. Damn that digital revolution. On Jun 10, 2012, at 04:38 , Collin Brendemuehl wrote: 1 rechargeable 2CR5 battery. Looks unused. Perfect for your PZ-1p, etc. Just send me $6 and I'll put it into a small flat rate box for quick delivery. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com There is no off position to the genius switch. Genius can, however, be observed as insanity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FTAGH: R2CR5
I have a half dozen of those (not rechargeable) that expired last year, or last, that will be thrown out next year unless someone steps forward. Same with a half dozen CR123A units. All Sanyo, still in blister packs. Damn that digital revolution. On Jun 10, 2012, at 04:38 , Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > 1 rechargeable 2CR5 battery. Looks unused. > Perfect for your PZ-1p, etc. > Just send me $6 and I'll put it into a small flat rate box for quick > delivery. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com There is no off position to the genius switch. Genius can, however, be observed as insanity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FTAGH: R2CR5
1 rechargeable 2CR5 battery. Looks unused. Perfect for your PZ-1p, etc. Just send me $6 and I'll put it into a small flat rate box for quick delivery. Collin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
