Filters and the PDML
One reason many of you may not be getting all of the email from the PDML is because, for some reason, some of it is being rejected here and there by local servers signed up to the Spamcop service. The messages are being bounced because, according to the bounce message, the PDML has been blacklisted with that service. Of course, when I check the service, the PDML IP address is not listed. What is probably happening is that some server in the same range has been reported, so Spamcop is just blocking the whole range. Looks like I'll have to communicate with them about getting the PDML whitelisted. Thanks, Doug List Guy
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Doug Brewer wrote: One reason many of you may not be getting all of the email from the PDML is because, for some reason, some of it is being rejected here and there by local servers signed up to the Spamcop service. The messages are being bounced because, according to the bounce message, the PDML has been blacklisted with that service. Of course, when I check the service, the PDML IP address is not listed. What is probably happening is that some server in the same range has been reported, so Spamcop is just blocking the whole range. Looks like I'll have to communicate with them about getting the PDML whitelisted. Thanks, Doug List Guy Yet more background work we hardly ever hear about. Thanks for your help, Doug,... keith whaley
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LOL I never saw the original, and I don't see it in the archives ... Doug, thanks for all your work and effort. They are very much appreciated ... Shel Doug Brewer wrote: One reason many of you may not be getting all of the email from the PDML is because, for some reason, some of it is being rejected here and there by local servers signed up to the Spamcop service. The messages are being bounced because, according to the bounce message, the PDML has been blacklisted with that service. Of course, when I check the service, the PDML IP address is not listed. What is probably happening is that some server in the same range has been reported, so Spamcop is just blocking the whole range. Looks like I'll have to communicate with them about getting the PDML whitelisted. Thanks,
Re: Filters and the PDML
Doug Brewer wrote: One reason many of you may not be getting all of the email from the PDML is because, for some reason, some of it is being rejected here and there by local servers signed up to the Spamcop service. The messages are being bounced because, according to the bounce message, the PDML has been blacklisted with that service. Don't know about SpamCop's listing criteria but I expect the PDML is probably on some blocklists. This is because the PDML is an unconfirmed mailing list: When you sign up, you start receiving list mail immediately, without any confirmation step. This sounds innocuous in and of itself, but due to the nature of SMTP it's easy to fake a from address and sign up someone else without their knowledge or permission. And it probably, sadly, won't surprise anyone to learn that there some dirtbags out there who've written software that lets you sign your chosen victim up for thousands of mailing lists with a single click :( Imagine getting signed up for a thousand (or more) mailing lists with as much traffic as the PDML and having to unsubscribe from each one. This kind of thing has even been used to bring down mail servers of some smaller providers. IIRC, the PDML used to have subscribe confirmation. Don't know if the listmeister has changed list software or just changed settings but if anyone is having list traffic blocked it might be a good idea for you to ask your provider to whitelist it. After all, you're sending that monthly cheque to them, Doug isn't ;-)
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And I never got Doug's original message. However, thanks for all the hard Work, Doug. Sometimes it seems like the spammers and the anti-spammers are in a race to see which can make the internet useless first. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- keith_w wrote: Doug Brewer wrote: One reason many of you may not be getting all of the email from the PDML is because, for some reason, some of it is being rejected here and there by local servers signed up to the Spamcop service. The messages are being bounced because, according to the bounce message, the PDML has been blacklisted with that service. Of course, when I check the service, the PDML IP address is not listed. What is probably happening is that some server in the same range has been reported, so Spamcop is just blocking the whole range. Looks like I'll have to communicate with them about getting the PDML whitelisted. Thanks, Doug List Guy Yet more background work we hardly ever hear about. Thanks for your help, Doug,... keith whaley
Re: Filters and the PDML
Doug Brewer wrote: One reason many of you may not be getting all of the email from the PDML is because, for some reason, some of it is being rejected here and there by local servers signed up to the Spamcop service. The messages are being bounced because, according to the bounce message, the PDML has been blacklisted with that service. Doug, I have a mail server that is configured to query Spamhaus.org, SpamCop.net, ordb.org and dsbl.org I might have missed it, but I have not noticed any report that 209.239.33.40 was listed in either of those blacklists. Also, lookup of the lists doesn't seem to show it being listed in any anywhat used lists: http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ip4r.ch?ip=209.239.33.40 There is only one listing (see the red colored line), - and you can request removal of you IP. (I am not doing that so that you can see why it was listed). However, I don't think this BL is used by many people. HTH, Igor
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On Apr 24, 2006, at 4:09 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Doug Brewer wrote: One reason many of you may not be getting all of the email from the PDML is because, for some reason, some of it is being rejected here and there by local servers signed up to the Spamcop service. The messages are being bounced because, according to the bounce message, the PDML has been blacklisted with that service. Doug, I have a mail server that is configured to query Spamhaus.org, SpamCop.net, ordb.org and dsbl.org I might have missed it, but I have not noticed any report that 209.239.33.40 was listed in either of those blacklists. Yep, that's why I wrote that it doesn't show as listed when I check. However, the bounce messages do indicate listing, which leads me to believe they are excluding whole ranges based on the activities of one or a few IP addresses. Also, lookup of the lists doesn't seem to show it being listed in any anywhat used lists: http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ip4r.ch?ip=209.239.33.40 There is only one listing (see the red colored line), - and you can request removal of you IP. (I am not doing that so that you can see why it was listed). However, I don't think this BL is used by many people. Yeah, I monitor that pretty regularly, usually watching when a wave of spoofed IP bounces come my way. That's always fun. HTH, Igor You're always a help. Thanks. Doug
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Doug, thanks very much for your efforts, and for the list. I'll bet you never guessed that photography would involve all this. Joe
