Re: Firmware question for new *ist-DS owner

2005-09-21 Thread danilo
sorry folks, I _have_ to say this:

if you don't mind 8bit per channel and/or color management,
give a try to gimp, wich also have a dcraw and an ufraw plugin...

ah, it's free.

www.gimp.org

danilo.



Re: Firmware question for new *ist-DS owner

2005-09-21 Thread Cory Papenfuss

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, danilo wrote:


sorry folks, I _have_ to say this:

if you don't mind 8bit per channel and/or color management,
give a try to gimp, wich also have a dcraw and an ufraw plugin...

ah, it's free.

www.gimp.org

	Then I *have* to mention that Cinepaint is a deep-color fork of 
the gimp.  It's based on an old version of Gimp, but I've used it for 
basic photography manipulations in 16-bit linear files with color 
management.  Still pretty rough around the edges, but it does work.


-Cory

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* Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student   *
* Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University   *
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Re: Firmware question for new *ist-DS owner

2005-09-20 Thread brooksdj
Hi Barry.

Tooks aquick look at my emails an don;t see an answer  to this question, so 
i'll attempt
one.

I have the istD and the firm ware is upto date. Check the pentax web site to 
see if
anything is
upgraded for the Ds.

I have been using raw as of late, and some other very experienced list members 
have bee
using it a
lot longer than i.

I find Raw reworks are great. Then Pentax software is crap AFAIC.

If you want to spend big bucks get CS or CS2. I have been using PSEL 3 and the 
Raw
cobverter works
very well.

Hope that helps

Dave(new aplle guy)Brooks  

 
 Hey Folks,
 
 I've been playing with my new *ist DS over the weekend. I'd love to show you
 all the fabulous photos I've been taking with it, but they've almost all
 been of my toes or the bookshelves as I've worked my way through the manual.
 So far it's all very sensible.
 
 So could someone explain what the talk is about firmware updates? Since I
 expect to shoot exclusively at the RAW setting, I assume I'll use the Pentax
 software to apply a few corrections to the images on my machine. Is there
 some update or patch I should download, in addition to the software supplied
 with the camera?
 
 FWIW, I use Paint Shop Pro instead of Photoshop, if such a comment is
 relevant. 
 
 Cheers
 
 Barry
 
 Barry A. Rice, Ph.D.
 Invasive Species Specialist
 Invasive Species Initiative
 The Nature Conservancy
 V: 530-754-8891
 http://tncweeds.ucdavis.edu 
 






Firmware question for new *ist-DS owner

2005-09-19 Thread Barry Rice

Hey Folks,

I've been playing with my new *ist DS over the weekend. I'd love to show you
all the fabulous photos I've been taking with it, but they've almost all
been of my toes or the bookshelves as I've worked my way through the manual.
So far it's all very sensible.

So could someone explain what the talk is about firmware updates? Since I
expect to shoot exclusively at the RAW setting, I assume I'll use the Pentax
software to apply a few corrections to the images on my machine. Is there
some update or patch I should download, in addition to the software supplied
with the camera?

FWIW, I use Paint Shop Pro instead of Photoshop, if such a comment is
relevant. 

Cheers

Barry

Barry A. Rice, Ph.D.
Invasive Species Specialist
Invasive Species Initiative
The Nature Conservancy
V: 530-754-8891
http://tncweeds.ucdavis.edu 



Re: Firmware question for new *ist-DS owner

2005-09-19 Thread Cory Papenfuss

So could someone explain what the talk is about firmware updates? Since I
expect to shoot exclusively at the RAW setting, I assume I'll use the Pentax
software to apply a few corrections to the images on my machine. Is there
some update or patch I should download, in addition to the software supplied
with the camera?

FWIW, I use Paint Shop Pro instead of Photoshop, if such a comment is
relevant.

	Pentax's software blows goats.  At the very least download dcraw 
or ufraw for RAW conversions.  Or you can buy a commercial RAW converter 
if you prefer for winders or macos.


	The firmware updates at the moment for the -DS only affects 1GB 
SD cards and a slight change on noise reduction IIRC.  You won't gain much 
by upgrading.


-Cory

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* Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student   *
* Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University   *
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Re: Firmware question for new *ist-DS owner

2005-09-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Sep 19, 2005, at 10:38 AM, Barry Rice wrote:

I've been playing with my new *ist DS over the weekend. I'd love to  
show you
all the fabulous photos I've been taking with it, but they've  
almost all
been of my toes or the bookshelves as I've worked my way through  
the manual.

So far it's all very sensible.


Glad to hear you're enjoying it.

So could someone explain what the talk is about firmware updates?  
Since I
expect to shoot exclusively at the RAW setting, I assume I'll use  
the Pentax
software to apply a few corrections to the images on my machine. Is  
there
some update or patch I should download, in addition to the software  
supplied

with the camera?


Firmware updates are generally released to correct or improve upon  
existing behaviors in the camera. Sometimes they add a feature or  
two, or extend an existing feature.


Pentax has released two updates for the DS. The first one was  
targeted to reduce green channel noise which was affecting quality  
with long exposures, as used in astronomical photography. The second  
was designed to extend the DS' file system capabilities to allow for  
larger than 1Gbyte storage cards (2Gbyte SD cards are now easily  
available, and 4G will be soon).


I also suspect that they've done a minor change to the JPEG rendering  
and/or exposure control system with the second update as I find that  
the average image quality from lenses like the 28-105 seems just a  
little more consistent for exposures made after the second update was  
installed. The documentation says nothing about that, I just suspect it.


If you go to http://www.pentaximaging.com and look in the Support/ 
Downloads area, you can download the latest updates (v1.02) which  
includes both updates. It's worth doing, if for no other reason than  
to keep your camera up to date. You can check which version of  
firmware is installed by holding the Menu button down while you turn  
on the power.


FWIW, I use Paint Shop Pro instead of Photoshop, if such a comment  
is relevant.


Makes no difference as to whether or not you install the firmware  
update. I would recommend that you obtain either RawShooter  
Essentials, Phase One's Camera 1, or other RAW conversion software  
(dcraw, Silkypix, VueScan, etc) in preference to what Pentax  
supplies, however, if you don't want to buy Photoshop Elements 3 or  
Photoshop CS2. Pentax Lab is pretty clumsy to use and doesn't present  
editing options that are as useful as the third party offerings.


Godfrey