RE: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ

2004-10-18 Thread Trevor Bailey
G'day Kostas.
I made a Hotshoe Grip.
I found a non working COBRA flash that comes with a flash grip.
I removed the flash and cut out the Cobra contacts.
I then used epoxy to fix a OCA to the grip.
Painted it black and it works like a charm.
I mainly use the AF400FTZ or the AF330FTZ.
The AF 330FTZ can be slipped off of the grip and used with the popup flash
for contrast control flash on the ZX-L with a tripod.
Hooroo.
Regards, Trevor
Grafton
Australia

-Original Message-
From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 18 October 2004 9:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ


On Sat, 7 Feb 2004, mike wilson wrote:

> Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
> > I think I am getting there. What do you mean by "any connector"? My
> > understanding is that I am looking for a part that slides into the HSG
> > hotshoe and provides a hotshoe to be used just as a stand for the
> > flash. Am I right? I know all about the cables and the other adapters
> > necessary (incl. the difference between F and Fg). But are you sure
> > that a generic hotshoe connector with connections won't destroy the
> > recipe (or the circuitry)?
>
> Me being imprecise again
>
> You need only a "dead" (no connections) connector that will mount on the
> HSG and allow you to mount the flash on it.  The HSG and flash will then
> be insulated from each other.  The connection from the flash to the
> camera will be by the 5P cable.  Thus you will get all the tricks of the
> digital flash, off camera.

OK, so I got there in the end. I just want to point out that the dead
connector is not necessary, as the HSG does not bear any signals until
you stick a (4P) cable to it. So, one just sticks the flash on the HSG
connector; wire the camera with the flash and that's you. The only
reason you may want to use an Off-Shoe Camera Adapter F is if your
flash does not have a 5P socket (e.g.. AF330FTZ). In that case, I am
really worried about the stability of the flash-OCA F combi on the
HSG; the OSA F just slots in the HSG.

For anyone interested, the OCA F is dead at the bottom and thus cannot
be used for chaining. If you want to chain, the Hot-Shoe adapter F is
the only one (as the Fg only gives a socket connector at the top).
None of the adapters secures on the hot-shoe of the camera or the HSG,
which is/could be a problem. It's  a shame there is no 5P bracket, but
then again who uses them nowadays anyway?

Kostas





Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ

2004-10-18 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sat, 7 Feb 2004, mike wilson wrote:

> Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
> > I think I am getting there. What do you mean by "any connector"? My
> > understanding is that I am looking for a part that slides into the HSG
> > hotshoe and provides a hotshoe to be used just as a stand for the
> > flash. Am I right? I know all about the cables and the other adapters
> > necessary (incl. the difference between F and Fg). But are you sure
> > that a generic hotshoe connector with connections won't destroy the
> > recipe (or the circuitry)?
>
> Me being imprecise again
>
> You need only a "dead" (no connections) connector that will mount on the
> HSG and allow you to mount the flash on it.  The HSG and flash will then
> be insulated from each other.  The connection from the flash to the
> camera will be by the 5P cable.  Thus you will get all the tricks of the
> digital flash, off camera.

OK, so I got there in the end. I just want to point out that the dead
connector is not necessary, as the HSG does not bear any signals until
you stick a (4P) cable to it. So, one just sticks the flash on the HSG
connector; wire the camera with the flash and that's you. The only
reason you may want to use an Off-Shoe Camera Adapter F is if your
flash does not have a 5P socket (e.g.. AF330FTZ). In that case, I am
really worried about the stability of the flash-OCA F combi on the
HSG; the OSA F just slots in the HSG.

For anyone interested, the OCA F is dead at the bottom and thus cannot
be used for chaining. If you want to chain, the Hot-Shoe adapter F is
the only one (as the Fg only gives a socket connector at the top).
None of the adapters secures on the hot-shoe of the camera or the HSG,
which is/could be a problem. It's  a shame there is no 5P bracket, but
then again who uses them nowadays anyway?

Kostas



Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ (question for Eleanor)

2004-02-08 Thread Christian Skofteland
Kostas, I use this stuff all the time and I'm pretty sure Mark Cassino uses
it for his macro work as well.  I'm not sure what Hal and/or Sandra is/are
going on about

Christian Skofteland
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


- Original Message - 
From: "Kostas Kavoussanakis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ (question for Eleanor)


> On Sat, 7 Feb 2004, Hal & Sandra Davis wrote:
>
> > Don't buy this stuff, it will collapse in a house of cards!
>
> Have you tried it yourself?
>
> Kostas
>



Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ (question for Eleanor)

2004-02-08 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sat, 7 Feb 2004, Hal & Sandra Davis wrote:

> Don't buy this stuff, it will collapse in a house of cards!

Have you tried it yourself?

Kostas



Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ (question for Eleanor)

2004-02-07 Thread Hal & Sandra Davis
Don't buy this stuff, it will collapse in a house of cards!
- Original Message - 
From: "Christian Skofteland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ (question for Eleanor)


> not necessarily the "digital" stuff (and here I'm assuming you are
referring
> to the flash control); it's really the off-camera-TTL stuff that drives ya
> nuts and is expensive!
>
> Looking at B&H it's about US$100 for the 5P cord the off-camera-adapter F
> and the hot shoe adapter Fg.
>
> If you were going for the old 4P (mechanical?  analog?) it would cost
about
> the same.
>
> Christian Skofteland
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 7:19 PM
> Subject: Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ (question for Eleanor)
>
>
> > Sorry, it's late and I'm half asleep.  You _will_ need another adaptor
> > for the camera.  This digital stuff is _really_ expensive 8-)
> >
> > m
>
>



Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ (question for Eleanor)

2004-02-07 Thread Christian Skofteland
not necessarily the "digital" stuff (and here I'm assuming you are referring
to the flash control); it's really the off-camera-TTL stuff that drives ya
nuts and is expensive!

Looking at B&H it's about US$100 for the 5P cord the off-camera-adapter F
and the hot shoe adapter Fg.

If you were going for the old 4P (mechanical?  analog?) it would cost about
the same.

Christian Skofteland
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


- Original Message - 
From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ (question for Eleanor)


> Sorry, it's late and I'm half asleep.  You _will_ need another adaptor
> for the camera.  This digital stuff is _really_ expensive 8-)
>
> m



Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ (question for Eleanor)

2004-02-07 Thread mike wilson
Sorry, it's late and I'm half asleep.  You _will_ need another adaptor
for the camera.  This digital stuff is _really_ expensive 8-)

m

Christian Skofteland wrote:
> 
> Don't forget that to plug the 5p cable into the camera you are going to need
> the hot shoe adapter F or Fg.
> 
> Christian Skofteland
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 1:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ (question for Eleanor)
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > Mike Wilson posted:
> > > >
> > > > Looking through the pages at KMP and the Pentax download site, it
> seems
> > > > possible that the Off camera adaptor F (not the Hot shoe adaptor F)
> may
> > > > be what you need.  It is not clear from the photgraph if it has the
> > > > ability to clip to a shoe.  Eleanor?
> > >
> > > You rang? (I haven't really been following this thread.)
> > > Yes, the Off Camera Adaptor F can slide into a shoe.
> >
> > Thanks.  There you go, Kostas.  HSG, OCA(F), 5P cable and the necessary
> > brackets.  All genuine Pentax parts.
> >
> > mike
> >



Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ (question for Eleanor)

2004-02-07 Thread mike wilson
The off camera adaptor has a 5P socket on the side, according to KMP.

m

Christian Skofteland wrote:
> 
> Don't forget that to plug the 5p cable into the camera you are going to need
> the hot shoe adapter F or Fg.
> 
> Christian Skofteland
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 1:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ (question for Eleanor)
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > Mike Wilson posted:
> > > >
> > > > Looking through the pages at KMP and the Pentax download site, it
> seems
> > > > possible that the Off camera adaptor F (not the Hot shoe adaptor F)
> may
> > > > be what you need.  It is not clear from the photgraph if it has the
> > > > ability to clip to a shoe.  Eleanor?
> > >
> > > You rang? (I haven't really been following this thread.)
> > > Yes, the Off Camera Adaptor F can slide into a shoe.
> >
> > Thanks.  There you go, Kostas.  HSG, OCA(F), 5P cable and the necessary
> > brackets.  All genuine Pentax parts.
> >
> > mike
> >



Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ (question for Eleanor)

2004-02-07 Thread Christian Skofteland
Don't forget that to plug the 5p cable into the camera you are going to need
the hot shoe adapter F or Fg.

Christian Skofteland
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


- Original Message - 
From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ (question for Eleanor)


> Hi,
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Mike Wilson posted:
> > >
> > > Looking through the pages at KMP and the Pentax download site, it
seems
> > > possible that the Off camera adaptor F (not the Hot shoe adaptor F)
may
> > > be what you need.  It is not clear from the photgraph if it has the
> > > ability to clip to a shoe.  Eleanor?
> >
> > You rang? (I haven't really been following this thread.)
> > Yes, the Off Camera Adaptor F can slide into a shoe.
>
> Thanks.  There you go, Kostas.  HSG, OCA(F), 5P cable and the necessary
> brackets.  All genuine Pentax parts.
>
> mike
>



Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ (question for Eleanor)

2004-02-07 Thread mike wilson
Hi,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Mike Wilson posted:
> >
> > Looking through the pages at KMP and the Pentax download site, it seems
> > possible that the Off camera adaptor F (not the Hot shoe adaptor F) may
> > be what you need.  It is not clear from the photgraph if it has the
> > ability to clip to a shoe.  Eleanor?
> 
> You rang? (I haven't really been following this thread.)
> Yes, the Off Camera Adaptor F can slide into a shoe.

Thanks.  There you go, Kostas.  HSG, OCA(F), 5P cable and the necessary
brackets.  All genuine Pentax parts.

mike



Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ (question for Eleanor)

2004-02-07 Thread ernreed2
Mike Wilson posted:
> Looking through the pages at KMP and the Pentax download site, it seems
> possible that the Off camera adaptor F (not the Hot shoe adaptor F) may
> be what you need.  It is not clear from the photgraph if it has the
> ability to clip to a shoe.  Eleanor?
>

In my other reply I failed to include a link to a picture of said adapter, 
which makes it more apparent that it can attach to a shoe. Check it out at 
http://members.aol.com/greenfalc1/offshoe.jpg

Boz, if you're lurking: perhaps this photo should be added to the others.

ERN



Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ (question for Eleanor)

2004-02-07 Thread mike wilson
Hi,

Looking through the pages at KMP and the Pentax download site, it seems
possible that the Off camera adaptor F (not the Hot shoe adaptor F) may
be what you need.  It is not clear from the photgraph if it has the
ability to clip to a shoe.  Eleanor?

You can also see what I mean about the bracketry by looking at the
picture at the top of the KMP flash page.  Interestingly (for pedants)
the two camera attachment brackets I have are different.

 m



Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ

2004-02-07 Thread mike wilson
Hi,

Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
> I think I am getting there. What do you mean by "any connector"? My
> understanding is that I am looking for a part that slides into the HSG
> hotshoe and provides a hotshoe to be used just as a stand for the
> flash. Am I right? I know all about the cables and the other adapters
> necessary (incl. the difference between F and Fg). But are you sure
> that a generic hotshoe connector with connections won't destroy the
> recipe (or the circuitry)?

Me being imprecise again

You need only a "dead" (no connections) connector that will mount on the
HSG and allow you to mount the flash on it.  The HSG and flash will then
be insulated from each other.  The connection from the flash to the
camera will be by the 5P cable.  Thus you will get all the tricks of the
digital flash, off camera.

> The only thing I then need is a bracket to link the camera with the
> HSG.

Does your HSG have the stainless/plastic part that attaches to the
bracket you attach to the camera?  I have a spare camera bracket you
could borrow.  These parts are ridiculously expensive new.  They never
break but to find them secondhand is very much a trial of luck - they
are almost never listed properly in Jessop's secondhand catalogue, for
instance.  They do, however appear in bargain basement bins -  I got a
4P cable on Thursday for £1.  Wouldn't expect to pay any more for the
bracketry.

mike



Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ

2004-02-07 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, mike wilson wrote:

> Not directly mounted on the HSG, no.  But I think there is a 5-series
> hotshoe connector that is "dead" (no connections) for use on studio
> lighting stands.  (Come to think of it, any proprietary connector would
> work - Jessops?) That on the HSG, flash on the connector, cable from
> hotshoe to flash and PTOOOF!

I think I am getting there. What do you mean by "any connector"? My
understanding is that I am looking for a part that slides into the HSG
hotshoe and provides a hotshoe to be used just as a stand for the
flash. Am I right? I know all about the cables and the other adapters
necessary (incl. the difference between F and Fg). But are you sure
that a generic hotshoe connector with connections won't destroy the
recipe (or the circuitry)?

The only thing I then need is a bracket to link the camera with the
HSG.

Thanks Mike!

Kostas (and everyone else who answered)



Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ

2004-02-07 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, Christian wrote:

> There are several flash brackets by numerous manufacturers that are similar
> to the Hot shoe Grip set up and not so large as the Stroboframes.



Thanks for the very detailed answer Christian. I had figured all that
out from Boz's site. I thought that I could use the setup you
recommended on the Pentax bracket, found out I couldn't and posted my
question. In fact, I was one step from completing checkout when I
thought I should check the bracket manual for compatibility.

> Limitations are on the flash or body

Apparently, on the Pentax bracket too :-)

> flash) and TTL mode with the AF360FGZ (digital flash).  My ist-D (digital
> body as far as flash/ttl is concerned; I'm not referring to media) works in
> TTL mode with an AF280T (analog flash) and TTL mode with the AF360FGZ

P-TTL, is my understanding.

> Of course manual and auto-flash would work with any body and any flash
> (automatic: flash has to have this ability).

Again, on the Pentax bracket you even lose dedication with the digital
flashes.

Kostas



Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ

2004-02-06 Thread mike wilson
That's what I'm trying to find out myself 8-)  No apology needed.

Christian wrote:
> 
> OK, now I see my error.  I didn't know the FGZ flashes were different than
> the FTZ flashes.  I don't have experience with the later.
> 
> sorry about that.
> 
> Christian
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 3:06 PM
> Subject: Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ
> 
> > Anything previous to the SF series.  Where flash is triggered
> > mechanically.
> >
> > Christian wrote:
> > >
> > > define "mechanical bodies"
> > >
> > > My LX and oh-I-forgot-about-it-in-my-previous-post SuperProgram worked
> in
> > > TTL mode with the AF360FGZ.
> > >
> > > Christian
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 2:48 PM
> > > >
> > > > But I understand that FTZ designated flashes will not work in TTL with
> > > > mechanical bodies.  Or am I wrong?
> > > >
> > > > mike
> > > >
> >



Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ

2004-02-06 Thread Christian
OK, now I see my error.  I didn't know the FGZ flashes were different than
the FTZ flashes.  I don't have experience with the later.

sorry about that.

Christian

- Original Message - 
From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ


> Anything previous to the SF series.  Where flash is triggered
> mechanically.
>
> Christian wrote:
> >
> > define "mechanical bodies"
> >
> > My LX and oh-I-forgot-about-it-in-my-previous-post SuperProgram worked
in
> > TTL mode with the AF360FGZ.
> >
> > Christian
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 2:48 PM
> > >
> > > But I understand that FTZ designated flashes will not work in TTL with
> > > mechanical bodies.  Or am I wrong?
> > >
> > > mike
> > >
>



Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ

2004-02-06 Thread mike wilson
Anything previous to the SF series.  Where flash is triggered
mechanically.

Christian wrote:
> 
> define "mechanical bodies"
> 
> My LX and oh-I-forgot-about-it-in-my-previous-post SuperProgram worked in
> TTL mode with the AF360FGZ.
> 
> Christian
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 2:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > Christian wrote:
> >
> > > example: my LX (Analog body) worked in TTL mode with an AF280T (analog
> > > flash) and TTL mode with the AF360FGZ (digital flash).  My ist-D
> (digital
> > > body as far as flash/ttl is concerned; I'm not referring to media) works
> in
> > > TTL mode with an AF280T (analog flash) and TTL mode with the AF360FGZ
> > > (digital flash).
> >
> > But I understand that FTZ designated flashes will not work in TTL with
> > mechanical bodies.  Or am I wrong?
> >
> > mike
> >



Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ

2004-02-06 Thread Christian
define "mechanical bodies"

My LX and oh-I-forgot-about-it-in-my-previous-post SuperProgram worked in
TTL mode with the AF360FGZ.

Christian

- Original Message - 
From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ


> Hi,
>
> Christian wrote:
>
> > example: my LX (Analog body) worked in TTL mode with an AF280T (analog
> > flash) and TTL mode with the AF360FGZ (digital flash).  My ist-D
(digital
> > body as far as flash/ttl is concerned; I'm not referring to media) works
in
> > TTL mode with an AF280T (analog flash) and TTL mode with the AF360FGZ
> > (digital flash).
>
> But I understand that FTZ designated flashes will not work in TTL with
> mechanical bodies.  Or am I wrong?
>
> mike
>



Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ

2004-02-06 Thread mike wilson
Hi,

Christian wrote:

> example: my LX (Analog body) worked in TTL mode with an AF280T (analog
> flash) and TTL mode with the AF360FGZ (digital flash).  My ist-D (digital
> body as far as flash/ttl is concerned; I'm not referring to media) works in
> TTL mode with an AF280T (analog flash) and TTL mode with the AF360FGZ
> (digital flash). 

But I understand that FTZ designated flashes will not work in TTL with
mechanical bodies.  Or am I wrong?

mike



Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ

2004-02-06 Thread mike wilson
Hi,

Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, mike wilson wrote:
> 
> > Can't you use the HSG with one of the 5-series hotshoe whatsits and a
> > 5-P cable?
> 
> Before posting (or buying for that matter!) I downloaded the HSG
> manual from Pentax USA and it says that Dedicated/TTL flash is not
> possible with the 240FT or the 400FTZ. As they both have a 5P socket,
> I doubt that's the way to do it. And that's why I was hoping someone
> in the list might know.

Not directly mounted on the HSG, no.  But I think there is a 5-series
hotshoe connector that is "dead" (no connections) for use on studio
lighting stands.  (Come to think of it, any proprietary connector would
work - Jessops?) That on the HSG, flash on the connector, cable from
hotshoe to flash and PTOOOF!

mike



Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ

2004-02-06 Thread Christian
kostas;

There are several flash brackets by numerous manufacturers that are similar
to the Hot shoe Grip set up and not so large as the Stroboframes.

to use any of them with ANY Pentax flash and ANY pentax body get the
following three items (I only link to B&H because it's convenient, not
because they are the only source):

Off camera shoe adapter F
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=112755&is=REG

Hot shoe adapter Fg
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=112754&is=REG
or Hot shoe adapter F
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=41177&is=REG

F5P extension cord
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=41049&is=REG

Limitations are on the flash or body (ttl flash on manual body = manual
flash; manual flash on ttl body = manual flash, etc.) Any analog TTL flash
will work in TTL mode with any TTL body.  Any digital TTL flash will work in
TTL mode with any TTL body.  By digital I'm referring to the flash/TTL type
not the media)

example: my LX (Analog body) worked in TTL mode with an AF280T (analog
flash) and TTL mode with the AF360FGZ (digital flash).  My ist-D (digital
body as far as flash/ttl is concerned; I'm not referring to media) works in
TTL mode with an AF280T (analog flash) and TTL mode with the AF360FGZ
(digital flash).  I used all theses combinations with the three accessories
listed above.

Of course manual and auto-flash would work with any body and any flash
(automatic: flash has to have this ability).

HTH

Christian

- Original Message - 
From: "Kostas Kavoussanakis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ


> On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, mike wilson wrote:
>
> > Can't you use the HSG with one of the 5-series hotshoe whatsits and a
> > 5-P cable?
>
> Before posting (or buying for that matter!) I downloaded the HSG
> manual from Pentax USA and it says that Dedicated/TTL flash is not
> possible with the 240FT or the 400FTZ. As they both have a 5P socket,
> I doubt that's the way to do it. And that's why I was hoping someone
> in the list might know.
>
> Thanks for the suggestion,
>
> Kostas
>



Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ

2004-02-06 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, mike wilson wrote:

> Can't you use the HSG with one of the 5-series hotshoe whatsits and a
> 5-P cable?

Before posting (or buying for that matter!) I downloaded the HSG
manual from Pentax USA and it says that Dedicated/TTL flash is not
possible with the 240FT or the 400FTZ. As they both have a 5P socket,
I doubt that's the way to do it. And that's why I was hoping someone
in the list might know.

Thanks for the suggestion,

Kostas



Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ

2004-02-06 Thread mike wilson
Hi,

Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
> 
> Thanks. Thing is, I just bought a 500FTZ from Jaume :-)
> 
> Can't believe there is no matter for brackets, though the lack of
> responses in the list just shows it's so.

Can't you use the HSG with one of the 5-series hotshoe whatsits and a
5-P cable?

mike



Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ

2004-02-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
You said that you didn't want to consider the larger brackets.  That
is the kind I use - to get the flash high and centered.  Stroboframe
quickflip 35, Stroboframe Pro-RL.

HTH,

Bruce


Friday, February 6, 2004, 1:28:51 AM, you wrote:

KK> On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, mike wilson wrote:

>> You could just use Pentax analogue TTL flashes with your newer body.
>> Does pretty much everything except high speed, trailing shutter and
>> wireless.

KK> Thanks. Thing is, I just bought a 500FTZ from Jaume :-)

KK> Can't believe there is no matter for brackets, though the lack of
KK> responses in the list just shows it's so.

KK> Kostas





RE: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ

2004-02-06 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, Len Paris wrote:

> Many folks feel that they are ungainly, unsightly, and would stifle
> their artistic creativity, if they ever used a Stroboframe.  The
> Stroboframe has been the mainstay of PJs and wedding/event photographers
> for a long time. Also, I've mentioned using them quite a few times in
> the past. I hate to keep repeating stuff.

Thanks for this. Please be lenient with me about the last bit. There
are quite a few threads I (and others, I guess) don't follow.
Additionally, I may have seen it mentioned before, but there is just
so much technical stuff mentioned in the list that I don't understand.

Thanks again for taking the time. I found a supplier (speedgraphic)
and will look into their catalogue; in addition to Strobo* they seem
to have a cheap Hama bracket which puts the flash where the Pentax
bracket does.

Kostas



RE: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ

2004-02-06 Thread Len Paris
Many folks feel that they are ungainly, unsightly, and would stifle
their artistic creativity, if they ever used a Stroboframe.  The
Stroboframe has been the mainstay of PJs and wedding/event photographers
for a long time. Also, I've mentioned using them quite a few times in
the past. I hate to keep repeating stuff.

They are much more than a substitute for the Pentax grip.  They keep the
flash about ten inches and centered above the lens. No red eye and no
harsh shadows. I put a Sto-fen Omnibounce on the flash, as well.  Makes
for nice soft lighting.

Len
 * There's no place like 127.0.0.1
 

> Thanks Len. I will see what I can find on the web, but if in the
> meanwhile you want to elaborate on why I would not want to hear, I
> would be interested :-)
> 
> I had a look and they seem to be much more than a substitute for the
> (subtlish) Pentax grip.
> 
> Kostas
> 




Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ

2004-02-06 Thread Christian
Kostas;

Most people use a third party bracket like Stroboframe, etc. combined with
the appropriate off-camera accessories for the newer Pentax flashes.

Christian

- Original Message - 
From: "Kostas Kavoussanakis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 4:28 AM
Subject: Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ


> On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, mike wilson wrote:
>
> > You could just use Pentax analogue TTL flashes with your newer body.
> > Does pretty much everything except high speed, trailing shutter and
> > wireless.
>
> Thanks. Thing is, I just bought a 500FTZ from Jaume :-)
>
> Can't believe there is no matter for brackets, though the lack of
> responses in the list just shows it's so.
>
> Kostas
>



RE: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ

2004-02-06 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, Len Paris wrote:

> I use a Stroboframe flip-top and an off-camera flash cable with my
> 500FTZ, PZ-1p and *ist D.  "It's a good thing".  I just didn't think
> that you wanted to hear about Stroboframe, or I would have mentioned it
> sooner.

Thanks Len. I will see what I can find on the web, but if in the
meanwhile you want to elaborate on why I would not want to hear, I
would be interested :-)

I had a look and they seem to be much more than a substitute for the
(subtlish) Pentax grip.

Kostas



RE: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ

2004-02-06 Thread Len Paris
I use a Stroboframe flip-top and an off-camera flash cable with my
500FTZ, PZ-1p and *ist D.  "It's a good thing".  I just didn't think
that you wanted to hear about Stroboframe, or I would have mentioned it
sooner.

Len
 * There's no place like 127.0.0.1
 

> Thanks. Thing is, I just bought a 500FTZ from Jaume :-)
> 
> Can't believe there is no matter for brackets, though the lack of
> responses in the list just shows it's so.
> 
> Kostas
> 




Re: Flash bracket for the 500FTZ

2004-02-06 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:

> On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, mike wilson wrote:
>
> > You could just use Pentax analogue TTL flashes with your newer body.
> > Does pretty much everything except high speed, trailing shutter and
> > wireless.
>
> Thanks. Thing is, I just bought a 500FTZ from Jaume :-)
>
> Can't believe there is no matter for brackets, though the lack of

Market. Market. Can't believe there is no MARKET for brackets.

> responses in the list just shows it's so.

Kostas



Flash bracket for the 500FTZ

2004-02-05 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

Hi,

I noticed that the 400FTZ only works in manual mode on the hot shoe
grip, so I guess that the same is true for the 500FTZ. Is there a grip
for the 500FTZ, with a bracket to attach it to the (MZ) camera? The
Cobra 750 has a very nice, very simple setup, which even allows the AF
spotbeam to be emitted from the hot shoe attachment. If (as I guess
from Boz's site) there is no newer, digital signal-compatible Pentax
version of the grip, is there a 3rd party solution?

Thanks,
Kostas