Re: Four lenses

2003-09-12 Thread Tom Ivar Helbekkmo
Paul Delcour [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have the SMC 85/1.8 and absolutely love it.

Ditto!  That one, and the SMC 24/2.8 are the two lenses that by
default live in my camera bag -- one of them on the LX, the other
easily at hand.  Anything else gets taken along for some specific
reason.

-tih
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Re: Four lenses

2003-09-12 Thread John Dallman
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Delcour) wrote:

 I have the SMC 85/1.8 and absolutely love it. It may not be full 
 portrait, but the 1.8 gives a lot of candid opportunities with 
 little light. Great to observe people and snap.

Hear, hear. Lovely bit of glass. For a while after I'd decided that 
I wanted something more modern than the Spotmatic F, I was looking 
for an equivalent lens in a modern bayonet mount, and when I found 
one, I was going to switch to whatever system it fitted. Then I found 
out about the SMCP-A* 85/1.4, and a little later managed to score one, 
so I've stayed with Pentax. 

What do you mean by Not full portrait, incidentally? I agree an 
85mm is not much good for full-length portraits, but those are usually 
unfortunately long and narrow pictures anyway, and I prefer not to 
take them much. 

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John Dallman [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Four lenses

2003-09-11 Thread Clive evans
Hi All
In one of his books Galen Rowell said that 60% of his best images were made
with either a 20mm or a 180mm.
of the remaining 40%, 60% were with a 35mm or 85mm.[This is all  pre-zoom]
OK these are Nikon focal lenghts but its an interesting
exercise..especialy considering his subject
range.
Conversely the classic Leica 4 is 21,35,50,90
Just my .2 euros worth.
Clive
Antibes
France



Re: Four lenses

2003-09-11 Thread Steve Desjardins
I've notice the same thing. I go with three lenses:

20-35
50 1.4
100 2.8 or 135 2.5 or Sigma 100-300 DL

I prefer the 100 or 135, but sometimes I need the reach of the zoom. 
I've considered a 70-200 or something like that, maybe the Tokina.  The
Pentax ones are too cheap or way too expensive (and heavy).  Either way,
I still seem to like the 3 lens approach:  wide, normal and fast, long.


Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/11/03 08:44AM 
It occurs to me, I've never had an 80 or 85mm lens!
I jump from 55mm to 105mm (beautiful little SMC Takumar f/2.8...) and
up.
I think I'll start reviewing the reports on which is recommended and
go
looking for one!

Unless there are recommendations from the list...

Thanks, Clive!

keith whaley




Re: Which four lenses? Was: some more *ist D samples

2003-09-11 Thread Jostein
On 10 Sep 2003 at 16:09, whickersworld wrote:

 I would recommend:
 
 24mm, 35mm, 85mm, 200mm  (my personal choice), or
 20mm, 28mm, 50mm, 135mm  (for wider angles of view), or
 28mm, 50mm, 135mm, 300mm (if you want a longer outfit).
 
 John

My choice would be:
20mm
normal zoom; eg. 24-90 or 28-70
Telezoom; eg 70-200
400mm, or a macro 100mm, depending on the size of wildlife likely 
to be around on the particular trip. :-)

I do have a number of primes to choose from, but restrained to 
four lenses, I'd prefer zooms for flexibility.

Cheers,
Jostein
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Photos at: http://www.oksne.net
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RE: Four lenses

2003-09-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
In M42, the 85mm F1.8 SMCT is the one
to get but it sells for about $200-300
used.
JCO



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-Original Message-
From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 8:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Four lenses


It occurs to me, I've never had an 80 or 85mm lens!
I jump from 55mm to 105mm (beautiful little SMC Takumar f/2.8...) and up.
I think I'll start reviewing the reports on which is recommended and go
looking for one!

Unless there are recommendations from the list...

Thanks, Clive!

keith whaley

Clive evans wrote:

 Hi All
 In one of his books Galen Rowell said that 60% of his best images were
made
 with either a 20mm or a 180mm.
 of the remaining 40%, 60% were with a 35mm or 85mm.[This is all  pre-zoom]
 OK these are Nikon focal lenghts but its an interesting
 exercise..especialy considering his
subject
 range.
 Conversely the classic Leica 4 is 21,35,50,90
 Just my .2 euros worth.
 Clive
 Antibes
 France



Re: Four lenses

2003-09-11 Thread Paul Delcour
Keith,

I have the SMC 85/1.8 and absolutely love it. It may not be full portrait,
but the 1.8 gives a lot of candid opportunities with little light. Great to
observe people and snap.

:-)

Paul Delcour

 From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 05:44:05 -0700
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Four lenses
 Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 08:44:02 -0400
 
 It occurs to me, I've never had an 80 or 85mm lens!
 I jump from 55mm to 105mm (beautiful little SMC Takumar f/2.8...) and up.
 I think I'll start reviewing the reports on which is recommended and go
 looking for one!
 
 Unless there are recommendations from the list...
 
 Thanks, Clive!
 
 keith whaley
 
 Clive evans wrote:
 
 Hi All
 In one of his books Galen Rowell said that 60% of his best images were made
 with either a 20mm or a 180mm.
 of the remaining 40%, 60% were with a 35mm or 85mm.[This is all  pre-zoom]
 OK these are Nikon focal lenghts but its an interesting
 exercise..especialy considering his subject
 range.
 Conversely the classic Leica 4 is 21,35,50,90
 Just my .2 euros worth.
 Clive
 Antibes
 France
 



Re: Four lenses

2003-09-11 Thread ukasz Kacperczyk
Steve Desjardins wrote:

I've notice the same thing. I go with three lenses:

20-35
50 1.4
100 2.8 or 135 2.5 or Sigma 100-300 DL
I prefer the 100 or 135, but sometimes I need the reach of the zoom. 
Either way,
I still seem to like the 3 lens approach:  wide, normal and fast, long.
I've only got 4 lenses FA 35/2, K 50/1.4, K 55/1.8, and M 100/2.8. The 
fifth is my M 35/2.8 that I want to sell. I rarely use the M 100/2.8 and 
almost consider the 55mm a portrait lens :-)

My 2 cents.

regards,
ukasz
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RE: Four lenses

2003-09-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Yes. But the K-mount version goes for
$400-$500 on ebay. OUCH!
JCO



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-Original Message-
From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 3:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Four lenses


Did that get made in a K-mount?
I could use it via an adapter, but it would be more convenient if...

keith whaley

J. C. O'Connell wrote:

 In M42, the 85mm F1.8 SMCT is the one
 to get but it sells for about $200-300
 used.



Re: SMC-K 85mm f/1.8 (WAS: Four lenses)

2003-09-11 Thread Keith Whaley
Wow! That's a substantial price!
Any idea what they sold for new?

keith

J. C. O'Connell wrote:
 
 Yes. But the K-mount version goes for
 $400-$500 on ebay. OUCH!
 JCO



Re: Four lenses

2003-09-11 Thread Andre Langevin
For high altitude hiking : M20mm, 40mm, 85mm and 170mm f4 (from 85mm + 2X).

For shows: fast 28, 50, 85 and 135 lenses.

Andre
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Re: Which four lenses? Was: some more *ist D samples

2003-09-11 Thread John Dallman
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (whickersworld) wrote:
 Patrick Wunsch wrote:
  If you could only have four lenses in your camera bag,
  which ones would you chose and why.

For 35mm, it would be 17mm, 24mm, 35mm, 85mm. I mostly shoot interiors and 
portraits, and the 85mm gets the most use by a long way. I'm still working 
it out for the *istD I want to buy shortly, but it looks like 17mm, 24-70 
zoom, and 85mm. Nobody seems to make a non-fisheye lens that will be as 
wide on a *istD as the 17mm on 35mm. 

--- 
John Dallman [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Which four lenses? Was: some more *ist D samples

2003-09-11 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi,

Thursday, September 11, 2003, 9:11:00 PM, you wrote:

 If you could only have four lenses in your camera bag,
 which ones would you chose and why.

35mm SLR:

20/2.8
28/2
50/1.4
85/2

or possibly

20/2.8
35/2
85/2
200/2.8 macro

but more likely the first lot, sticking to stuff I know.

35mm RF:

28/2
35/1.4
50/1.4
90/2.8

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Cheers,
 Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Which four lenses? Was: some more *ist D samples

2003-09-11 Thread Ryan K. Brooks


William Robb wrote:


Patrick Wunsch wrote:
If you could only have four lenses in your camera bag,
which ones would you chose and why.  I ask this because I am trying to

20-35 f/4
50 f/1.4
100 Macro
70-200 Sigma
-Ryan



Re: Four lenses

2003-09-11 Thread Peter Alling
I don't know if it's the identical lens in K mount but there is
a SMCP 85mm f1.8, which is exceedingly well thought of.  They
always seem sell at a premium on e-bay regardless of described
condition.
At 12:28 PM 9/11/03 -0700, you wrote:
Did that get made in a K-mount?
I could use it via an adapter, but it would be more convenient if...
keith whaley

J. C. O'Connell wrote:

 In M42, the 85mm F1.8 SMCT is the one
 to get but it sells for about $200-300
 used.
To grasp the true meaning of socialism, imagine a world where everything is 
designed by
the post office, even the sleaze.
O'Rourke, P.J.



Re: Which four lenses? Was: some more *ist D samples

2003-09-10 Thread Paul Delcour
I love my

24/2.8
50/1.7
85/1.8

If I would have to add one more, I think it would either be the

Tokina 17/3.5
or my
100/4 macro.

I seldom use my 200/4, though I have the Pentax 2x converter giving me a
400/8.

:-)

Paul Delcour

 From: whickersworld [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 16:09:55 +0100
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Which four lenses?  Was: some more *ist D samples
 Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:10:05 -0400
 
 Patrick Wunsch wrote:
 
 If you could only have four lenses in your camera bag,
 which ones would you
 chose and why.  I ask this because I am trying to narrow
 down my choices and
 assess my needs versus wants while still be able to pay
 the mortgage!
 
 I have the K1000 and ZX-5n cameras and am most interested
 in landscapes,
 sunsets and lightning photography.
 
 
 Hi Pat,
 
 I would recommend:
 
 24mm, 35mm, 85mm, 200mm  (my personal choice), or
 20mm, 28mm, 50mm, 135mm  (for wider angles of view), or
 28mm, 50mm, 135mm, 300mm (if you want a longer outfit).
 
 John
 



Re: Which four lenses?

2003-09-10 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Just 3 would I use in that scenario:
A generally affordable set
--
24mm
50mm
100mm

But if one must have 4 ...
A nice set
--
31mm
43mm
77mm
150mm

I don't go as far as recommending 200mm because of size.
The set of 3 is lighter  easier to carry.



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KC8TKA

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Re: Which four lenses? Was: some more *ist D samples

2003-09-10 Thread Matjaz Osojnik
Great set indeed. I mostly use 24/2 and 77/1.8 as well. The third in 
the bag is 50/1.7. If there is a place for a fourth lens in the bag, 
then I take 80-320 zoom which I would change in a split second for a 
high quality AF 70-200/4 or similiar, if pentax would make it.

Matjaz

 I love my
 
 24/2.8
 50/1.7
 85/1.8
 
 If I would have to add one more, I think it would either be the
 
 Tokina 17/3.5
 or my
 100/4 macro.
 
 I seldom use my 200/4, though I have the Pentax 2x converter giving me
 a 400/8.
 
 :-)
 
 Paul Delcour
 



Re: Which four lenses? Was: some more *ist D samples

2003-09-10 Thread Dag T

Patrick Wunsch wrote:
If you could only have four lenses in your camera bag,
which ones would you
chose and why.  I ask this because I am trying to narrow
down my choices and
assess my needs versus wants while still be able to pay
the mortgage!
I have the K1000 and ZX-5n cameras and am most interested
in landscapes,
sunsets and lightning photography.
20 2.8, 28 2.0, 50 1.4 and 85 1.4

This is what I usually use.  A 100 2.8 macro could be nice in stead of 
the 85.

DagT



Re: Which four lenses? Was: some more *ist D samples

2003-09-10 Thread Andre Langevin
Patrick Wunsch wrote:
If you could only have four lenses in your camera bag,
which ones would you chose and why.  I ask this because I am trying to narrow
down my choices and assess my needs versus wants while still be able to pay
the mortgage!
 
I have the K1000 and ZX-5n cameras and am most interested
in landscapes, sunsets and lightning photography.


For landscape, lightning and sunsets I think a very wide angle is 
mandatory: 20mm or, as a cheaper option, 24mm.  And then a 35mm.  But 
you would probably prefer the wide-angle zoom 20-35mm and consider 
that you now have two of your four lenses.

A normal lens is always a good idea as their optical quality is 
unsurpassed and it sees the same way as our eyes.

For more abstract landscape pics, a short tele is the adequate tool 
(for me): 85mm or 100mm.  With a 100mm f4 macro (which is also fine 
at infinity according to Modern Photography and my own experience) 
you could also enter the world of micro landscapes.

Andre
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