Re: GESO: Har ki dun trek photos
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 09:15:28 -0400 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Womderful series of photos. This one i like a lot. http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/HKD#5374129055267831010 thanks Dave, appreciate it... regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Womderful series of photos. This one i like a lot. http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/HKD#5374129055267831010 Dave On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 5:53 AM, Subashpdml.l...@gmail.com wrote: hi, pictures from my first trek in the himalayas, which turned out to be an amazing experience. this is an attempt at a pictorial narrative of that experience. :) it was an eight days trip, though the actual trek was for five days, covering 75km. we trekked from a place called sankhri, approximately 6200 ft, to a place called har ki dun, at about 11,600 ft. had taken extensive tips from dave savage to try and do some star trails photography but, as it turned out, it was the monsoon season and it was mostly cloudy. it is a rather large collection (30) and i realise one ought to be ruthlessly deleting the bad ones but, to give a slightly different spin on bill robb's words, i guess my standards are rather low :-) do tell me what you think: http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/HKD# regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:10 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 8/26/2009 2:54:04 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pdml.l...@gmail.com writes: What a beautiful place. Sigh. Some very nice shots there. Not going to tell you what to kick out and what to keep. One suggestion -- the people shots are often in bright light, so there is a great deal of contrast and faces and upper bodies are often too dark to see much detail (like the guys sitting down). So I'd post process them (more?) to bring up a little more detail in the shadows. Some very nice shots, Sasha. Looks like fun. thanks marnie. i do see what you mean. will try and see if i can bring up some details in the shadows. appreciate your comment. regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:53 AM, Luiz Felipeluiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote: Very, very interesting photos - looks like your trip was really good. Make mine the Little Well Wisher, but the sunset at sankhri is impressive and the whole gallery makes me dream about getting on the road. Another great image is swargarohini peak... Very well done! thanks Luiz, appreciate it... regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Excellent work, Subash. A very nice gallery. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Aug 26, 2009, at 9:53 PM, Subash wrote: do tell me what you think: http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/HKD# What a beautiful place. I need to do some more back-country expeditions. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Subash wrote: hi, pictures from my first trek in the himalayas, which turned out to be an amazing experience. this is an attempt at a pictorial narrative of that experience. :) it was an eight days trip, though the actual trek was for five days, covering 75km. we trekked from a place called sankhri, approximately 6200 ft, to a place called har ki dun, at about 11,600 ft. had taken extensive tips from dave savage to try and do some star trails photography but, as it turned out, it was the monsoon season and it was mostly cloudy. it is a rather large collection (30) and i realise one ought to be ruthlessly deleting the bad ones but, to give a slightly different spin on bill robb's words, i guess my standards are rather low :-) do tell me what you think: http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/HKD# regards, subash Holy cow. That is an amazing set. Most humbled. D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 21:23:59 +1000 Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/HKD# Holy cow. That is an amazing set. Most humbled. Derby, Carlos and David Mann, thanks for all your kind comments. regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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In a message dated 8/26/2009 2:54:04 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pdml.l...@gmail.com writes: What a beautiful place. Sigh. Some very nice shots there. Not going to tell you what to kick out and what to keep. One suggestion -- the people shots are often in bright light, so there is a great deal of contrast and faces and upper bodies are often too dark to see much detail (like the guys sitting down). So I'd post process them (more?) to bring up a little more detail in the shadows. Some very nice shots, Sasha. Looks like fun. Marnie === hi, pictures from my first trek in the himalayas, which turned out to be an amazing experience. this is an attempt at a pictorial narrative of that experience. :) it was an eight days trip, though the actual trek was for five days, covering 75km. we trekked from a place called sankhri, approximately 6200 ft, to a place called har ki dun, at about 11,600 ft. had taken extensive tips from dave savage to try and do some star trails photography but, as it turned out, it was the monsoon season and it was mostly cloudy. it is a rather large collection (30) and i realise one ought to be ruthlessly deleting the bad ones but, to give a slightly different spin on bill robb's words, i guess my standards are rather low :-) do tell me what you think: http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/HKD# regards, subash - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Very, very interesting photos - looks like your trip was really good. Make mine the Little Well Wisher, but the sunset at sankhri is impressive and the whole gallery makes me dream about getting on the road. Another great image is swargarohini peak... Very well done! lf Subash escreveu: hi, pictures from my first trek in the himalayas, which turned out to be an amazing experience. this is an attempt at a pictorial narrative of that experience. :) it was an eight days trip, though the actual trek was for five days, covering 75km. we trekked from a place called sankhri, approximately 6200 ft, to a place called har ki dun, at about 11,600 ft. had taken extensive tips from dave savage to try and do some star trails photography but, as it turned out, it was the monsoon season and it was mostly cloudy. it is a rather large collection (30) and i realise one ought to be ruthlessly deleting the bad ones but, to give a slightly different spin on bill robb's words, i guess my standards are rather low :-) do tell me what you think: http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/HKD# regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO: Har ki dun trek photos
hi, pictures from my first trek in the himalayas, which turned out to be an amazing experience. this is an attempt at a pictorial narrative of that experience. :) it was an eight days trip, though the actual trek was for five days, covering 75km. we trekked from a place called sankhri, approximately 6200 ft, to a place called har ki dun, at about 11,600 ft. had taken extensive tips from dave savage to try and do some star trails photography but, as it turned out, it was the monsoon season and it was mostly cloudy. it is a rather large collection (30) and i realise one ought to be ruthlessly deleting the bad ones but, to give a slightly different spin on bill robb's words, i guess my standards are rather low :-) do tell me what you think: http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/HKD# regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 26/8/09, Subash, discombobulated, unleashed: hi, pictures from my first trek in the himalayas, which turned out to be an amazing experience. this is an attempt at a pictorial narrative of that experience. :) it was an eight days trip, though the actual trek was for five days, covering 75km. we trekked from a place called sankhri, approximately 6200 ft, to a place called har ki dun, at about 11,600 ft. had taken extensive tips from dave savage to try and do some star trails photography but, as it turned out, it was the monsoon season and it was mostly cloudy. it is a rather large collection (30) and i realise one ought to be ruthlessly deleting the bad ones but, to give a slightly different spin on bill robb's words, i guess my standards are rather low :-) do tell me what you think: http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/HKD# Hi Subers - welcome back. Looks like you had a fantastic trip mate - excellent set of pics - really like the clean Picassa layout and eas of moving from one pic to the next at my own pace. I could have done with twice as many pics! The mountain shots are amazing. More please :-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Subash, Fasinating and beautiful. Loved the orchid and flowers you caught, plus that 20,000 ft. mountain face was something else! Thanks for the vicarious trip in the Himalayas. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 4:53 AM, Subashpdml.l...@gmail.com wrote: hi, pictures from my first trek in the himalayas, which turned out to be an amazing experience. this is an attempt at a pictorial narrative of that experience. :) it was an eight days trip, though the actual trek was for five days, covering 75km. we trekked from a place called sankhri, approximately 6200 ft, to a place called har ki dun, at about 11,600 ft. had taken extensive tips from dave savage to try and do some star trails photography but, as it turned out, it was the monsoon season and it was mostly cloudy. it is a rather large collection (30) and i realise one ought to be ruthlessly deleting the bad ones but, to give a slightly different spin on bill robb's words, i guess my standards are rather low :-) do tell me what you think: http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/HKD# regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Subash For me the standouts are the little well-wisher, the tight shot of the lavander blossom and the mountain peak and the two women talking Im sure that was a fascinating trek ann Subash wrote: hi, pictures from my first trek in the himalayas, which turned out to be an amazing experience. this is an attempt at a pictorial narrative of that experience. :) it was an eight days trip, though the actual trek was for five days, covering 75km. we trekked from a place called sankhri, approximately 6200 ft, to a place called har ki dun, at about 11,600 ft. had taken extensive tips from dave savage to try and do some star trails photography but, as it turned out, it was the monsoon season and it was mostly cloudy. it is a rather large collection (30) and i realise one ought to be ruthlessly deleting the bad ones but, to give a slightly different spin on bill robb's words, i guess my standards are rather low :-) do tell me what you think: http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/HKD# regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Lots of nice shots here. A fascinating photo essay. Thanks for sharing. Paul Subash wrote: hi, pictures from my first trek in the himalayas, which turned out to be an amazing experience. this is an attempt at a pictorial narrative of that experience. :) it was an eight days trip, though the actual trek was for five days, covering 75km. we trekked from a place called sankhri, approximately 6200 ft, to a place called har ki dun, at about 11,600 ft. had taken extensive tips from dave savage to try and do some star trails photography but, as it turned out, it was the monsoon season and it was mostly cloudy. it is a rather large collection (30) and i realise one ought to be ruthlessly deleting the bad ones but, to give a slightly different spin on bill robb's words, i guess my standards are rather low :-) do tell me what you think: http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/HKD# regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 08:14:09 -0500 Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Fasinating and beautiful. Loved the orchid and flowers you caught, plus that 20,000 ft. mountain face was something else! Thanks for the vicarious trip in the Himalayas. http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/HKD# thanks Bob. that peak became visible just for a short while when the sun was setting and went back behind clouds again the next day too. glad you liked it. regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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thanks cotty, feels nice to be back :). like i said it was an amazing experience. we are already thinking of longer, better treks next year... :-) regards, subash On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:32:21 +0100 Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/HKD# Hi Subers - welcome back. Looks like you had a fantastic trip mate - excellent set of pics - really like the clean Picassa layout and eas of moving from one pic to the next at my own pace. I could have done with twice as many pics! The mountain shots are amazing. More please :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:05:43 -0400 ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: For me the standouts are the little well-wisher, the tight shot of the lavander blossom and the mountain peak and the two women talking thanks for looking Ann. those are some of my favourites too.. :) Im sure that was a fascinating trek it certainly was. planning a 'bigger' one already for next year... regards, subash http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/HKD# -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:44:05 -0400 Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Lots of nice shots here. A fascinating photo essay. Thanks for sharing. Paul http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/HKD# thanks for looking and the nice words, Paul. much appreciated. regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 03:23:45PM +0530, Subash wrote: it is a rather large collection (30) and i realise one ought to be ruthlessly deleting the bad ones but, to give a slightly different spin on bill robb's words, i guess my standards are rather low :-) do tell me what you think: I didn't see any bad ones to delete. If I did that hike I'd have to be pretty ruthless to cut things down to 30. http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/HKD# regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Lots of great photos and a pleasant watch, Thanks for sharing 2009/8/26 Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com: hi, pictures from my first trek in the himalayas, which turned out to be an amazing experience. this is an attempt at a pictorial narrative of that experience. :) it was an eight days trip, though the actual trek was for five days, covering 75km. we trekked from a place called sankhri, approximately 6200 ft, to a place called har ki dun, at about 11,600 ft. had taken extensive tips from dave savage to try and do some star trails photography but, as it turned out, it was the monsoon season and it was mostly cloudy. it is a rather large collection (30) and i realise one ought to be ruthlessly deleting the bad ones but, to give a slightly different spin on bill robb's words, i guess my standards are rather low :-) do tell me what you think: http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/HKD# regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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pictures from my first trek in the himalayas, which turned out to be an amazing experience. this is an attempt at a [...] do tell me what you think: http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/HKD# regards, subash Really excellent gallery Subash - very enjoyable. I'm jealous of the trek too - I'll get there someday before too long. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Superb gallery Subash. I can't help thinking of the health and safety implications of the first shot! And the well-wisher is lovely... Chris -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Subash Sent: 26 August 2009 10:54 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: GESO: Har ki dun trek photos hi, pictures from my first trek in the himalayas, which turned out to be an amazing experience. this is an attempt at a pictorial narrative of that experience. :) it was an eight days trip, though the actual trek was for five days, covering 75km. we trekked from a place called sankhri, approximately 6200 ft, to a place called har ki dun, at about 11,600 ft. had taken extensive tips from dave savage to try and do some star trails photography but, as it turned out, it was the monsoon season and it was mostly cloudy. it is a rather large collection (30) and i realise one ought to be ruthlessly deleting the bad ones but, to give a slightly different spin on bill robb's words, i guess my standards are rather low :-) do tell me what you think: http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/HKD# regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:03:38 -0700 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I didn't see any bad ones to delete. If I did that hike I'd have to be pretty ruthless to cut things down to 30. http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/HKD# hi Larry, thanks for the nice words and for taking a look. :) regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:30:39 +0200 Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote: Lots of great photos and a pleasant watch, Thanks for sharing http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/HKD# thanks for the nice words Toine. appreciate it. regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:34:23 +0100 Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/HKD# Really excellent gallery Subash - very enjoyable. I'm jealous of the trek too - I'll get there someday before too long. glad you liked it Bob. there are any number of absolutely amazing trails up there and most of my (annual) long leaves henceforth will almost certainly be spent trekking in the himalayas. we're already plotting the next one... :-) regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:10:29 +0100 Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: Superb gallery Subash. I can't help thinking of the health and safety implications of the first shot! And the well-wisher is lovely... http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/HKD# thanks for the nice words Chris. totally agree with you about the safety implications but it is a common sight on the roads here. i guess notions of safety are kind of relative... :) regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
