Re: GESO - Bessaflex
On Sun, Jun 30, 2013, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Same thing's happened in other industries. Everyone wants you to buy their products exclusively, not mix-and-match. Everything's proprietary these days, by design. No, no, no, you misunderstand. Everything is standardized. It's just that there are so many standards to choose from. For those of you who remember S-100, here's a little treat: http://lyrics.wikia.com/Frank_Hayes:S-100_Bus -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO - Bessaflex
S100 rulez http://www.s100computers.com/My%20System%20Index%20Page.htm John is part of a group re-issuing old boards and also designing new ones. The S100 is definitely alive along with CP/M, MP/M etc. I sold my stuff for over $500 as individual boards, manuals are about to go next. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Aahz Maruch Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 1:40 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: GESO - Bessaflex On Sun, Jun 30, 2013, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Same thing's happened in other industries. Everyone wants you to buy their products exclusively, not mix-and-match. Everything's proprietary these days, by design. No, no, no, you misunderstand. Everything is standardized. It's just that there are so many standards to choose from. For those of you who remember S-100, here's a little treat: http://lyrics.wikia.com/Frank_Hayes:S-100_Bus -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6 http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Bessaflex
Ah, yes. The S100 bus. I was writing software for a communications company, (no longer in existence AFAIK), latest hire on the team, when my desk phone rings... It's a salesdrone. He want's to have my assurance that the SSC, (a PC based product), can have a module written to support a four port MUX card, because he just sold both to a customer. My reply was the software can be written, but the MUX board is S-100 Bus, which wasn't compatible with an AT bus PC. He was insistent that I should take responsibility to make it work. I eventually told him he should take that up with the electrical engineering group. Obviously he wanted me to just say yes, to get him off the hook for selling incompatible products. On 7/11/2013 1:40 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Sun, Jun 30, 2013, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Same thing's happened in other industries. Everyone wants you to buy their products exclusively, not mix-and-match. Everything's proprietary these days, by design. No, no, no, you misunderstand. Everything is standardized. It's just that there are so many standards to choose from. For those of you who remember S-100, here's a little treat: http://lyrics.wikia.com/Frank_Hayes:S-100_Bus -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Bessaflex
Well remember, it is never his fault for selling the wrong bits, it's you fault for not making them compatible. jm -- From: P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 2:58 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO - Bessaflex Ah, yes. The S100 bus. I was writing software for a communications company, (no longer in existence AFAIK), latest hire on the team, when my desk phone rings... It's a salesdrone. He want's to have my assurance that the SSC, (a PC based product), can have a module written to support a four port MUX card, because he just sold both to a customer. My reply was the software can be written, but the MUX board is S-100 Bus, which wasn't compatible with an AT bus PC. He was insistent that I should take responsibility to make it work. I eventually told him he should take that up with the electrical engineering group. Obviously he wanted me to just say yes, to get him off the hook for selling incompatible products. On 7/11/2013 1:40 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Sun, Jun 30, 2013, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Same thing's happened in other industries. Everyone wants you to buy their products exclusively, not mix-and-match. Everything's proprietary these days, by design. No, no, no, you misunderstand. Everything is standardized. It's just that there are so many standards to choose from. For those of you who remember S-100, here's a little treat: http://lyrics.wikia.com/Frank_Hayes:S-100_Bus -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Bessaflex
Derby Chang wrote on Sun, 30 Jun 2013 04:56:21 -0700: A few weeks ago, I acquired a nice example of the rare-ish Voigtlander Bessaflex in black. What a pretty camera. Takes the same Voigtlander grip and trigger winder as their R rangefinders, and the feel of the body is pretty similar too. In other words, nice and solid. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/06/bessaflex/index.html Several years ago I bought a silver Bessaflex from Stephen Gandy - one of the last he had in stock at Cameraquest, I believe. I agree that it's a nice camera, sturdy although not quite as nicely finished as a Pentax. I used mine with the C-V Ultron 40mm f2 lens, as I could not find the C-V 58mm f1.4 Nokton I wanted in M42 mount, an extremely rare lens. It was a nice combination. Regards, Jim Also upgraded to LR5 this month. Spotting film scans is now half-way enjoyable. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO - Bessaflex
A few weeks ago, I acquired a nice example of the rare-ish Voigtlander Bessaflex in black. What a pretty camera. Takes the same Voigtlander grip and trigger winder as their R rangefinders, and the feel of the body is pretty similar too. In other words, nice and solid. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/06/bessaflex/index.html Also upgraded to LR5 this month. Spotting film scans is now half-way enjoyable. -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Bessaflex
I love the mannequins on the stairs. Seeing the m42 Super-Tak on that Voigtlander makes me wonder how different things would have been if they could have standardized on a bayonet mount when screw mount was phased out. Not Invented Here syndrom is just such a pain in the ass. On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: A few weeks ago, I acquired a nice example of the rare-ish Voigtlander Bessaflex in black. What a pretty camera. Takes the same Voigtlander grip and trigger winder as their R rangefinders, and the feel of the body is pretty similar too. In other words, nice and solid. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/06/bessaflex/index.html Also upgraded to LR5 this month. Spotting film scans is now half-way enjoyable. -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO - Bessaflex
I've got that lens. Haven't used it in many years (as I haven't used my spotties). One sweet lens, among my favourites. Lovely looking camera. And your usual wonderful gallery of pix. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au Sent: June 30, 2013 6/30/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO - Bessaflex A few weeks ago, I acquired a nice example of the rare-ish Voigtlander Bessaflex in black. What a pretty camera. Takes the same Voigtlander grip and trigger winder as their R rangefinders, and the feel of the body is pretty similar too. In other words, nice and solid. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/06/bessaflex/index.html Also upgraded to LR5 this month. Spotting film scans is now half-way enjoyable. -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Bessaflex
Well, they ~could~ have standardized things when the industry went bayonet but they chose not to. Same thing's happened in other industries. Everyone wants you to buy their products exclusively, not mix-and-match. Everything's proprietary these days, by design. Sigh. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Sent: June 30, 2013 6/30/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO - Bessaflex I love the mannequins on the stairs. Seeing the m42 Super-Tak on that Voigtlander makes me wonder how different things would have been if they could have standardized on a bayonet mount when screw mount was phased out. Not Invented Here syndrom is just such a pain in the ass. On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: A few weeks ago, I acquired a nice example of the rare-ish Voigtlander Bessaflex in black. What a pretty camera. Takes the same Voigtlander grip and trigger winder as their R rangefinders, and the feel of the body is pretty similar too. In other words, nice and solid. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/06/bessaflex/index.html Also upgraded to LR5 this month. Spotting film scans is now half-way enjoyable. -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Bessaflex
Pentax licensed the K mount for one dollar, a lot of smaller players in camera manufacturing took them up on it. But it was always unlikeley that their major rivals, (Minolta, Nikon, Canon, and Olympus), would. It would be sweet to be able to pick and choose among the Gems of each manufacture from the 1960's on to build a kit. On 6/30/2013 1:23 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Well, they ~could~ have standardized things when the industry went bayonet but they chose not to. Same thing's happened in other industries. Everyone wants you to buy their products exclusively, not mix-and-match. Everything's proprietary these days, by design. Sigh. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Sent: June 30, 2013 6/30/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO - Bessaflex I love the mannequins on the stairs. Seeing the m42 Super-Tak on that Voigtlander makes me wonder how different things would have been if they could have standardized on a bayonet mount when screw mount was phased out. Not Invented Here syndrom is just such a pain in the ass. On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: A few weeks ago, I acquired a nice example of the rare-ish Voigtlander Bessaflex in black. What a pretty camera. Takes the same Voigtlander grip and trigger winder as their R rangefinders, and the feel of the body is pretty similar too. In other words, nice and solid. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/06/bessaflex/index.html Also upgraded to LR5 this month. Spotting film scans is now half-way enjoyable. -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
