Re: GESO Foam

2021-12-18 Thread John Francis 


I probably do.  "toxic" and "poisonous" mean causing an actual chemical
reaction which is harmful to you.  Nausea (which can be caused by a
bad smell, or motion, or many other reasons) doesn't qualify.  It may
be unpleasant to be exposed to the smell (which isn't actually from
the methane, but from various other decomposition products, etc., that
are typically mixed in), but moving out of the affected area is enough
to take care of it.  That isn't the case if you are exposed to carbon
monoxide from breathing car exhaust fumes, or eat deadly nightshade
or yew berries or the wrong sorts of toadstools, or are bitten by a
venomous snake or spider - those have persistent effects which often
require medical treatment.

On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 01:34:11PM -0500, ann sanfedele wrote:
> what it prompted in me was nausea.. but you may have a narrower definition
> of toxic than I do.
> 
> I have a photo of that sign we encountered along the ALACAN somewhere..
> 
> On 12/16/2021 8:13 PM, John Francis wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 05:49:37PM -0500, ann sanfedele wrote:
> > > re poisonous - um -- methane certainly falls under that category.
> > I don't think so - it's non-toxic. It will choke you if you breathe
> > it instead of regular air, but the same is true of pure nitrogen.
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Re: GESO Foam

2021-12-17 Thread ann sanfedele 
what it prompted in me was nausea.. but you may have a narrower 
definition of toxic than I do.


I have a photo of that sign we encountered along the ALACAN somewhere..

On 12/16/2021 8:13 PM, John Francis wrote:

On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 05:49:37PM -0500, ann sanfedele wrote:

re poisonous - um -- methane certainly falls under that category.

I don't think so - it's non-toxic. It will choke you if you breathe
it instead of regular air, but the same is true of pure nitrogen.
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Re: GESO Foam

2021-12-16 Thread John Francis 
On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 05:49:37PM -0500, ann sanfedele wrote:
> 
> re poisonous - um -- methane certainly falls under that category.

I don't think so - it's non-toxic. It will choke you if you breathe
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Re: GESO Foam

2021-12-16 Thread ann sanfedele 
I think you got the perfect light or at least close to it -- won't now 
until you take another that you think is better :-)


re poisonous - um -- methane certainly falls under that category.. but 
glad it isn't chemical dumping .
There are places in western Canada where the methane is so noxious there 
are signs along the Alcan warning

travelers to not stop - not that one would , as the smell was intense...

ann


On 12/16/2021 5:36 PM, Toine wrote:

Ah yes, very good taste and thanks. I keep visiting that spot to find
the perfect light and green moss, the wild boars spoil it a little
when they plough through the green moss.

@Ann the foam isn't poisonous or chemical pollution. Most likely
organic stuff from decomposing plants, proteins and gas like carbon
dioxide or methane results in foam. Also some oxidised iron from the
soil (rust). The grease is collected before a lock or whatever the
name to regulate water height.

Toine

On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 at 21:55, Larry Colen  wrote:




On Dec 16, 2021, at 12:50 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Toine - I can understand why you took the shots of the leaf on the foam.. kinda 
fascinating .. but also ominous -- the foam might be some poisonous
stream polluting thing...

You know me..I scrolled up down and around these recent shots and immediately 
fell in love with this stuning woodland scene.

https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#&gid=1&pid=006-398-p1013379

so so wonderful


Yes, very nice.  It’s funny how often photos we think are nice, but not 
noteworthy are the ones that other people pick out.

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Re: GESO Foam

2021-12-16 Thread Toine 
Ah yes, very good taste and thanks. I keep visiting that spot to find
the perfect light and green moss, the wild boars spoil it a little
when they plough through the green moss.

@Ann the foam isn't poisonous or chemical pollution. Most likely
organic stuff from decomposing plants, proteins and gas like carbon
dioxide or methane results in foam. Also some oxidised iron from the
soil (rust). The grease is collected before a lock or whatever the
name to regulate water height.

Toine

On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 at 21:55, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 16, 2021, at 12:50 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> >
> > Toine - I can understand why you took the shots of the leaf on the foam.. 
> > kinda fascinating .. but also ominous -- the foam might be some poisonous
> > stream polluting thing...
> >
> > You know me..I scrolled up down and around these recent shots and 
> > immediately fell in love with this stuning woodland scene.
> >
> > https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#&gid=1&pid=006-398-p1013379
> >
> > so so wonderful
>
>
> Yes, very nice.  It’s funny how often photos we think are nice, but not 
> noteworthy are the ones that other people pick out.
>
> >
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Re: GESO Foam

2021-12-16 Thread Larry Colen 


> On Dec 16, 2021, at 12:50 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Toine - I can understand why you took the shots of the leaf on the foam.. 
> kinda fascinating .. but also ominous -- the foam might be some poisonous
> stream polluting thing...
> 
> You know me..I scrolled up down and around these recent shots and immediately 
> fell in love with this stuning woodland scene.
> 
> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#&gid=1&pid=006-398-p1013379
> 
> so so wonderful


Yes, very nice.  It’s funny how often photos we think are nice, but not 
noteworthy are the ones that other people pick out.

> 

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Re: GESO Foam

2021-12-16 Thread ann sanfedele 
Toine - I can understand why you took the shots of the leaf on the 
foam.. kinda fascinating .. but also ominous -- the foam might be some 
poisonous

stream polluting thing...

You know me..I scrolled up down and around these recent shots and 
immediately fell in love with this stuning woodland scene.


https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#&gid=1&pid=006-398-p1013379

so so wonderful

ann

On 12/15/2021 1:57 PM, Toine wrote:

Some kind of foamy stuff on a stream which created an interesting pattern:

https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#&gid=1&pid=006-405-1001022

If you want to see more foam:
https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#&gid=1&pid=006-404-1001039
or a small bird in a tree
https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#&gid=1&pid=006-406-1001011-edit

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Re: GESO Foam

2021-12-16 Thread Larry Colen 
I liked the “flat shot” of the foam and the LBB.  Both very nice.


> On Dec 16, 2021, at 12:11 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
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> I like the little birdie best.  Excellent composition!
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> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 1:57 PM Toine  wrote:
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>> Some kind of foamy stuff on a stream which created an interesting pattern:
>> 
>> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#&gid=1&pid=006-405-1001022
>> 
>> If you want to see more foam:
>> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#&gid=1&pid=006-404-1001039
>> or a small bird in a tree
>> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#&gid=1&pid=006-406-1001011-edit
>> 
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Re: GESO Foam

2021-12-16 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
I like the little birdie best.  Excellent composition!

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On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 1:57 PM Toine  wrote:

> Some kind of foamy stuff on a stream which created an interesting pattern:
>
> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#&gid=1&pid=006-405-1001022
>
> If you want to see more foam:
> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#&gid=1&pid=006-404-1001039
> or a small bird in a tree
> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#&gid=1&pid=006-406-1001011-edit
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GESO Foam

2021-12-15 Thread Toine 
Some kind of foamy stuff on a stream which created an interesting pattern:

https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#&gid=1&pid=006-405-1001022

If you want to see more foam:
https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#&gid=1&pid=006-404-1001039
or a small bird in a tree
https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#&gid=1&pid=006-406-1001011-edit

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