Re: GESO pinup photo shoot

2014-02-19 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 04:39:22AM -0500, knarf wrote:
> Hey, I thoroughly enjoyed these! I know he was there in a supporting role but 
> at least there was a guy in there.

I'm glad you liked them.  

> 
> And many points to you for portraying models of various ages and sizes in a 
> positive and glamorous way.

I can't claim credit for the model selection, but I have always
pretty much photographed whoever asked.  Raf was the fellow I did the 
art nudes of last week.

One of the models asked me to post all of her selections
from the shoot:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157641183648885/

And PK and Stewart were helpers who I got a few photos of
as well, they asked that their photos not be in the main set:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157641139431104/

There was another male extra, but he didn't pose with the women
in any of my photos.

> 
> All very well executed and as Bruce said, everyone bad fun.

Thank you, and I appreciate the typo.

But, yes, it was fun for everyone. Particularly in some of the 
scenes where we had people calling suggestions and cheering, or
egging on, the models.  

> 
> Great stuff!
> 
> Cheers, 
> frank
> 
> On 17 February, 2014 3:50:53 PM EST, Larry Colen  wrote:
> >A friend thought that would be fun to set up a pinup photo shoot at
> >her house, with people to do hair, makeup etc. and asked me to be one
> >of
> >the photographers.  Sorry Frank, all of the primary models were women,
> >though we had a couple guys on hand as extras.
> >
> >I tried shooting with a high key background, used white board from 
> >home depot for the floor and white seamless for the back. I didn't have
> >enough light on the back, so I had issues to deal with in post.  Also 
> >the seams between the floor panels needed to be dealt with in post.
> >I did discover that I could drag the spot remover in lightroom to 
> >remove a line, so that made things easier.
> >
> >I was never really happy with my lighting, but it wasn't a total
> >failure.
> >
> >Lighting was a 7' umbrella on the model (no fill light and just
> >the room as fill reflector) and a smaller softbox on the background.
> >Since the stage was in a corner, I only had one side, and the front
> >for setting up lights.
> >
> >I shot about 1300 frames, and narrowed it down a bit for this set:
> >http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157641128305303/
> >
> >Comments and suggestions on improving the lighting appreciated.
> 
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Re: GESO pinup photo shoot

2014-02-19 Thread knarf
Mark!!

And I say, "screw the rules; push the genre."

On 17 February, 2014 8:35:17 PM EST, Larry Colen  wrote:

 I guess we're
>into reform rather than orthodox pinup.


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Re: GESO pinup photo shoot

2014-02-19 Thread knarf
Hey, I thoroughly enjoyed these! I know he was there in a supporting role but 
at least there was a guy in there.

And many points to you for portraying models of various ages and sizes in a 
positive and glamorous way.

All very well executed and as Bruce said, everyone bad fun.

Great stuff!

Cheers, 
frank

On 17 February, 2014 3:50:53 PM EST, Larry Colen  wrote:
>A friend thought that would be fun to set up a pinup photo shoot at
>her house, with people to do hair, makeup etc. and asked me to be one
>of
>the photographers.  Sorry Frank, all of the primary models were women,
>though we had a couple guys on hand as extras.
>
>I tried shooting with a high key background, used white board from 
>home depot for the floor and white seamless for the back. I didn't have
>enough light on the back, so I had issues to deal with in post.  Also 
>the seams between the floor panels needed to be dealt with in post.
>I did discover that I could drag the spot remover in lightroom to 
>remove a line, so that made things easier.
>
>I was never really happy with my lighting, but it wasn't a total
>failure.
>
>Lighting was a 7' umbrella on the model (no fill light and just
>the room as fill reflector) and a smaller softbox on the background.
>Since the stage was in a corner, I only had one side, and the front
>for setting up lights.
>
>I shot about 1300 frames, and narrowed it down a bit for this set:
>http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157641128305303/
>
>Comments and suggestions on improving the lighting appreciated.

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Re: GESO pinup photo shoot

2014-02-18 Thread Larry Colen
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:02:41PM +1100, Rob Studdert wrote:
> I don't know much about Pinup genre but this is a really lovely honest
> portrait http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/12596340163/

Thanks Rob.  She is a really sweet girl who is very shy and thinks
that she is unattractive. She does the modeling to try and overcome
her fears and such.


> 
> 
> 
> On 18 February 2014 07:50, Larry Colen  wrote:
> > A friend thought that would be fun to set up a pinup photo shoot at
> > her house, with people to do hair, makeup etc. and asked me to be one of
> > the photographers.  Sorry Frank, all of the primary models were women,
> > though we had a couple guys on hand as extras.
> >
> > I tried shooting with a high key background, used white board from
> > home depot for the floor and white seamless for the back. I didn't have
> > enough light on the back, so I had issues to deal with in post.  Also
> > the seams between the floor panels needed to be dealt with in post.
> > I did discover that I could drag the spot remover in lightroom to
> > remove a line, so that made things easier.
> >
> > I was never really happy with my lighting, but it wasn't a total failure.
> >
> > Lighting was a 7' umbrella on the model (no fill light and just
> > the room as fill reflector) and a smaller softbox on the background.
> > Since the stage was in a corner, I only had one side, and the front
> > for setting up lights.
> >
> > I shot about 1300 frames, and narrowed it down a bit for this set:
> > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157641128305303/
> >
> > Comments and suggestions on improving the lighting appreciated.
> >
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Re: GESO pinup photo shoot

2014-02-18 Thread Rob Studdert
I don't know much about Pinup genre but this is a really lovely honest
portrait http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/12596340163/



On 18 February 2014 07:50, Larry Colen  wrote:
> A friend thought that would be fun to set up a pinup photo shoot at
> her house, with people to do hair, makeup etc. and asked me to be one of
> the photographers.  Sorry Frank, all of the primary models were women,
> though we had a couple guys on hand as extras.
>
> I tried shooting with a high key background, used white board from
> home depot for the floor and white seamless for the back. I didn't have
> enough light on the back, so I had issues to deal with in post.  Also
> the seams between the floor panels needed to be dealt with in post.
> I did discover that I could drag the spot remover in lightroom to
> remove a line, so that made things easier.
>
> I was never really happy with my lighting, but it wasn't a total failure.
>
> Lighting was a 7' umbrella on the model (no fill light and just
> the room as fill reflector) and a smaller softbox on the background.
> Since the stage was in a corner, I only had one side, and the front
> for setting up lights.
>
> I shot about 1300 frames, and narrowed it down a bit for this set:
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157641128305303/
>
> Comments and suggestions on improving the lighting appreciated.
>
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Re: GESO pinup photo shoot

2014-02-17 Thread Larry Colen
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 06:47:00PM -0500, Bruce Walker wrote:
> Looks like a fun time was had by all, Larry.
> 
> Assuming you were after bright with little shadow, the lighting looks
> reasonable to me.
> 
> The most convincing Pin-up shots for me are LRC17144 (the best pinup
> pose and expression), LRC16878 and LRC16904.

Scarlet (in the polka dot dress) seemed to have quite the flair for it.

> 
> Next time you collab on pin-ups you should suggest some homework for
> everybody. Convincing pin-ups need the right poses, wardrobe and
> vintage hair styles. Look up pin-curls and finger-waves in Youtube for
> tutorials. Pincurls in particular would have made your model with the
> red polka dots look fabulous. For poses and wardrobe ideas search for
> paintings by Gil Elvgren and his contemporaries.

Thanks for the pointers.

> 
> Some more props would be good too. The umbrella is a good choice. The
> cupcake too.

There was someone who brought props.  The cupcakes were out there as
snacks, but they seemed to go well with the dress.

> 
> And omit most or all of the men next time. Pin-up is all about the
> women, and teasing the viewer.

There is that.  Though some of the most fun for everyone was when 
people were interacting and playing for the camera.  I guess we're
into reform rather than orthodox pinup.

> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> > A friend thought that would be fun to set up a pinup photo shoot at
> > her house, with people to do hair, makeup etc. and asked me to be one of
> > the photographers.  Sorry Frank, all of the primary models were women,
> > though we had a couple guys on hand as extras.
> >
> > I tried shooting with a high key background, used white board from
> > home depot for the floor and white seamless for the back. I didn't have
> > enough light on the back, so I had issues to deal with in post.  Also
> > the seams between the floor panels needed to be dealt with in post.
> > I did discover that I could drag the spot remover in lightroom to
> > remove a line, so that made things easier.
> >
> > I was never really happy with my lighting, but it wasn't a total failure.
> >
> > Lighting was a 7' umbrella on the model (no fill light and just
> > the room as fill reflector) and a smaller softbox on the background.
> > Since the stage was in a corner, I only had one side, and the front
> > for setting up lights.
> >
> > I shot about 1300 frames, and narrowed it down a bit for this set:
> > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157641128305303/
> >
> > Comments and suggestions on improving the lighting appreciated.
> >
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Re: GESO pinup photo shoot

2014-02-17 Thread Bruce Walker
Looks like a fun time was had by all, Larry.

Assuming you were after bright with little shadow, the lighting looks
reasonable to me.

The most convincing Pin-up shots for me are LRC17144 (the best pinup
pose and expression), LRC16878 and LRC16904.

Next time you collab on pin-ups you should suggest some homework for
everybody. Convincing pin-ups need the right poses, wardrobe and
vintage hair styles. Look up pin-curls and finger-waves in Youtube for
tutorials. Pincurls in particular would have made your model with the
red polka dots look fabulous. For poses and wardrobe ideas search for
paintings by Gil Elvgren and his contemporaries.

Some more props would be good too. The umbrella is a good choice. The
cupcake too.

And omit most or all of the men next time. Pin-up is all about the
women, and teasing the viewer.


On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> A friend thought that would be fun to set up a pinup photo shoot at
> her house, with people to do hair, makeup etc. and asked me to be one of
> the photographers.  Sorry Frank, all of the primary models were women,
> though we had a couple guys on hand as extras.
>
> I tried shooting with a high key background, used white board from
> home depot for the floor and white seamless for the back. I didn't have
> enough light on the back, so I had issues to deal with in post.  Also
> the seams between the floor panels needed to be dealt with in post.
> I did discover that I could drag the spot remover in lightroom to
> remove a line, so that made things easier.
>
> I was never really happy with my lighting, but it wasn't a total failure.
>
> Lighting was a 7' umbrella on the model (no fill light and just
> the room as fill reflector) and a smaller softbox on the background.
> Since the stage was in a corner, I only had one side, and the front
> for setting up lights.
>
> I shot about 1300 frames, and narrowed it down a bit for this set:
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157641128305303/
>
> Comments and suggestions on improving the lighting appreciated.
>
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GESO pinup photo shoot

2014-02-17 Thread Larry Colen
A friend thought that would be fun to set up a pinup photo shoot at
her house, with people to do hair, makeup etc. and asked me to be one of
the photographers.  Sorry Frank, all of the primary models were women,
though we had a couple guys on hand as extras.

I tried shooting with a high key background, used white board from 
home depot for the floor and white seamless for the back. I didn't have
enough light on the back, so I had issues to deal with in post.  Also 
the seams between the floor panels needed to be dealt with in post.
I did discover that I could drag the spot remover in lightroom to 
remove a line, so that made things easier.

I was never really happy with my lighting, but it wasn't a total failure.

Lighting was a 7' umbrella on the model (no fill light and just
the room as fill reflector) and a smaller softbox on the background.
Since the stage was in a corner, I only had one side, and the front
for setting up lights.

I shot about 1300 frames, and narrowed it down a bit for this set:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157641128305303/

Comments and suggestions on improving the lighting appreciated.

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