Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop
It's really depressing that it won - also ironic that the moon actually detracts - he didn't need to insert that to do well ann On 3/21/2017 5:07 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Yes it's certainly a misleading image but the only restrictions on processing in the somewhat lax "rules" for that challenge were "No watermarks or copyright info on image". So, strictly speaking, it's probably not cheating. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ On Wed, Mar 22, 2017, at 02:54 AM, postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: No comment necessary: https://www.dpreview.com/challenges/Entry.aspx?ID=1022446 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop
Yes it's certainly a misleading image but the only restrictions on processing in the somewhat lax "rules" for that challenge were "No watermarks or copyright info on image". So, strictly speaking, it's probably not cheating. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ On Wed, Mar 22, 2017, at 02:54 AM, postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: > No comment necessary: > https://www.dpreview.com/challenges/Entry.aspx?ID=1022446 > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.com - A fast, anti-spam email service. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop
John F.: But the clouds can be from the other side of the Earth... or Moon... ... No, they are from Mars, coming to Moon as a part of the seasons, when it becomes to cold on Mars... And then going back to Mars. [BG] ;-) John Francis Tue, 21 Mar 2017 11:47:26 -0700 wrote: Well, the fact that the moon is obscuring some of the clouds is a bit of a give-away. John S.: It would have to be at the right inclination that Stan can easily calculate from the data he's already collected. :-) Igor John Sessoms Tue, 21 Mar 2017 13:25:08 -0700 wrote: If the photographer had inserted just a sliver of an almost new moon it would have still been a "winning" image. On 3/21/2017 2:45 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Gonz wrote: Moon was photoshopped in? Looks like it, not consistent with sunrise/sunset and clouds... What, you mean you can't have the sun setting (or rising) almost directly *behind* a full moon? I am shocked, shocked! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop
The Moon being in front of the clouds is a dead giveaway before I even bothered to pixel peep. On 3/21/2017 1:23 PM, Gonz wrote: Moon was photoshopped in? Looks like it, not consistent with sunrise/sunset and clouds... On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:54 AM,wrote: No comment necessary: https://www.dpreview.com/challenges/Entry.aspx?ID=1022446 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop
If the photographer had inserted just a sliver of an almost new moon it would have still been a "winning" image. On 3/21/2017 2:45 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Gonz wrote: Moon was photoshopped in? Looks like it, not consistent with sunrise/sunset and clouds... What, you mean you can't have the sun setting (or rising) almost directly *behind* a full moon? I am shocked, shocked! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop
On 21/3/17, Stanley Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: >1. The moon was full at 0505 that morning. >2. The moon set at 0620 on a bearing of 281.4° as seen from the casual >observers position on Saltlick road. I.e., basically a bit North of West. >3. The sun rose at 0623 that morning, as you might expect, on a bearing >of 97.3°, a bit South of East. > >The photo is shopped. QED. Don't keep us in suspense Stan. What is the take-off weight of that South-African Swallow ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop
Yes, shocking. lol On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Mark Robertswrote: > Gonz wrote: > >>Moon was photoshopped in? Looks like it, not consistent with >>sunrise/sunset and clouds... > > What, you mean you can't have the sun setting (or rising) almost > directly *behind* a full moon? I am shocked, shocked! > > -- > Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia > www.robertstech.com > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -- Photography takes an instant out of time, altering life by holding it still. Dorothea Lange -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop
On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 12:23:20PM -0500, Gonz wrote: > Moon was photoshopped in? Looks like it, not consistent with > sunrise/sunset and clouds... Well, the fact that the moon is obscuring some of the clouds is a bit of a give-away. (Not to mention the rather obvious dark ring round the moon) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop
Gonz wrote: >Moon was photoshopped in? Looks like it, not consistent with >sunrise/sunset and clouds... What, you mean you can't have the sun setting (or rising) almost directly *behind* a full moon? I am shocked, shocked! -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop
Ok ok yes I believed you. But I had to check anyway… On Oct 12, 2011 when the photo was allegedly taken, in the Masai Mara where the dastardly deed was done, in the early morning as implied by the title of the image: 1. The moon was full at 0505 that morning. 2. The moon set at 0620 on a bearing of 281.4° as seen from the casual observers position on Saltlick road. I.e., basically a bit North of West. 3. The sun rose at 0623 that morning, as you might expect, on a bearing of 97.3°, a bit South of East. The photo is shopped. QED. [Data courtesy of The Photographers Ephemeris Web Application] stan > On Mar 21, 2017, at 11:54 AM, postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: > > No comment necessary: > https://www.dpreview.com/challenges/Entry.aspx?ID=1022446 > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop
Not a great cutout either. Pretty clear artifacts along the circumference. I think there's an exposé thread about it going on too. On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Gonzwrote: > Moon was photoshopped in? Looks like it, not consistent with > sunrise/sunset and clouds... > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:54 AM, wrote: >> No comment necessary: >> https://www.dpreview.com/challenges/Entry.aspx?ID=1022446 >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > > -- > -- Photography takes an instant out of time, altering life by holding > it still. Dorothea Lange > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop
Moon was photoshopped in? Looks like it, not consistent with sunrise/sunset and clouds... On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:54 AM,wrote: > No comment necessary: > https://www.dpreview.com/challenges/Entry.aspx?ID=1022446 > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -- Photography takes an instant out of time, altering life by holding it still. Dorothea Lange -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
How to cheat & win with Photoshop
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