Re: I really like the MZ-S!

2003-11-14 Thread Steve Desjardins
Well, given the other thread, I guess we know the fate of the F6 (flim
version, anyway.)  




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 Interesting idea.  Do you think they'll go with F6 or F6D, etc., or
go
 for another name?
 
 How about the F5D?

I think that camera is already in production. 
The D1 or some such.

William Robb



Re: I really like the MZ-S!

2003-11-13 Thread Mark Roberts
graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

OTOH, I have hear persistant rumors of an upcoming Nikon F6.

Yeah, it'll come out around the same time as the Autofocus LX.

-- 
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Photography and writing
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Re: I really like the MZ-S!

2003-11-13 Thread William Robb

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From: Steve Desjardins 
Subject: Re: I really like the MZ-S!


 The funny part is that if the do release an F6 very few people will
 care, since many of the already small group of potential F6 buyers are
 now investing in digital.

The F6 will probably be a digital.

William Robb



Re: I really like the MZ-S!

2003-11-13 Thread Steve Desjardins
Interesting idea.  Do you think they'll go with F6 or F6D, etc., or go
for another name?


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From: Steve Desjardins 
Subject: Re: I really like the MZ-S!


 The funny part is that if the do release an F6 very few people will
 care, since many of the already small group of potential F6 buyers
are
 now investing in digital.

The F6 will probably be a digital.

William Robb



Re: I really like the MZ-S!

2003-11-13 Thread Eactivist
Interesting idea.  Do you think they'll go with F6 or F6D, etc., or go
for another name?


Steven Desjardins

They seem to do slightly less goofy names than some we could mention. :-)

How about the F5D?

Marnie aka Doe  Based on name recognition.



Re: I really like the MZ-S!

2003-11-13 Thread William Robb

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From: 
Subject: Re: I really like the MZ-S!


 Interesting idea.  Do you think they'll go with F6 or F6D, etc., or go
 for another name?
 
 How about the F5D?

I think that camera is already in production. 
The D1 or some such.

William Robb



Re: I really like the MZ-S!

2003-11-12 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 11.11.03 18:05, Mark Erickson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Remember the good old days when the 67 brotherhood dominated the list and we
 all longed for the new flagship?  I went out shooting a night-time project
 last night with my MZ-S and I have to say that I really, really like it.  I
 like pretty much everything about it.  I've been getting really nice results
 with it lately and am really happy with the user interface.
Well, I like it too. It just makes me wanting to go out and take photos -
very intuitive and it has JUST right set of features to feel free to take
almost every kind of photos. It's just pity we couldn't see Pentax DSLR with
this kind of classic interface and full K compatibility. Anyway after a few
days of *istD testing I came back to my trusty MZ-S and just feel better
with it. I just wasn't impresed with *istD except for the fact that it was
digital.

 I hope that film sticks around for a while.
I am sure it will. There are billions of film cameras around, it is not easy
to convince people to trash'em all at once. And I still can't see any
alternative for slides, of course for these, who like slides projecting.

-- 
Best Regards
Sylwek




Re: I really like the MZ-S!

2003-11-12 Thread Steve Desjardins
Me too.  RE: Autofocus sensor, I'm a focus and reocmpose kinda guy. 
And, to be honest, I've gone back to MF most of the time.


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Re: I really like the MZ-S!

2003-11-12 Thread graywolf
OTOH, I have hear persistant rumors of an upcoming Nikon F6.

--

Bill Owens wrote:

I would be quite surprised if Pentax, or any other manufacturer, were to
release any more high end 35mm SLR's.  I look for a less expensive DSLR,
then possibly an upgraded Igital*Dist.  IMNHO, the days of high end film
SLR's are numbered, especially as the number of esoteric film emulsions
continue to decline.


--
graywolf
http://graywolfphoto.com
You might as well accept people as they are,
you are not going to be able to change them anyway.



I really like the MZ-S!

2003-11-11 Thread Mark Erickson
All, 

Remember the good old days when the 67 brotherhood dominated the list and we 
all longed for the new flagship?  I went out shooting a night-time project 
last night with my MZ-S and I have to say that I really, really like it.  I 
like pretty much everything about it.  I've been getting really nice results 
with it lately and am really happy with the user interface. 

I hope that film sticks around for a while. 

--Mark



RE: I really like the MZ-S!

2003-11-11 Thread Rob Brigham
Or even better - give us the digital with the mz-s ergonomics and
handling (but give us an extra thumb wheel so we can change aperture
from the body OR the lens too).

I love soo much about the istD, but whenever I pick up the mz-s it just
feels s right!

 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Erickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 11 November 2003 17:05
 To: pentax-discuss
 Subject: I really like the MZ-S!
 
 
 All, 
 
 Remember the good old days when the 67 brotherhood dominated 
 the list and we 
 all longed for the new flagship?  I went out shooting a 
 night-time project 
 last night with my MZ-S and I have to say that I really, 
 really like it.  I 
 like pretty much everything about it.  I've been getting 
 really nice results 
 with it lately and am really happy with the user interface. 
 
 I hope that film sticks around for a while. 
 
  --Mark
 
 



Re: I really like the MZ-S!

2003-11-11 Thread Bruce Dayton
Mark,

Before I sold off my 35mm gear, MZ-S was my camera of choice.  It is a
wonderful camera - great interface, size and ergonomics were just
right for my hands.

I, too, hope film sticks around.


Bruce



Tuesday, November 11, 2003, 9:05:05 AM, you wrote:

ME All, 

ME Remember the good old days when the 67 brotherhood dominated the list and we
ME all longed for the new flagship?  I went out shooting a night-time project
ME last night with my MZ-S and I have to say that I really, really like it.  I
ME like pretty much everything about it.  I've been getting really nice results
ME with it lately and am really happy with the user interface. 

ME I hope that film sticks around for a while. 

ME  --Mark




RE: I really like the MZ-S!

2003-11-11 Thread Matjaz Osojnik
I hope for both. :) That is, I hope that film will be here for quite 
a while as well as I would like to see an MZ-S like digital camera. 
Not that I think istD is not good, it looks to be a terrific camera 
among it's digital peers, but every time I pick up MZ-S instantly I 
feel very big urge to use it, to press that shutter release button 
and to hear it's baang whiiizzz when taking photographs. Just love 
it. I do know what you mean with feeling right. Yep.  I don't 
believe it will happen though.

Matjaz

 Or even better - give us the digital with the mz-s ergonomics and
 handling (but give us an extra thumb wheel so we can change aperture
 from the body OR the lens too).
 
 I love soo much about the istD, but whenever I pick up the mz-s it
 just feels s right!
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Mark Erickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: 11 November 2003 17:05
  To: pentax-discuss
  Subject: I really like the MZ-S!
  
  
  All, 
  
  Remember the good old days when the 67 brotherhood dominated 
  the list and we 
  all longed for the new flagship?  I went out shooting a 
  night-time project 
  last night with my MZ-S and I have to say that I really, 
  really like it.  I 
  like pretty much everything about it.  I've been getting 
  really nice results 
  with it lately and am really happy with the user interface. 
  
  I hope that film sticks around for a while. 
  
   --Mark
  
  
 
 




Re: I really like the MZ-S!

2003-11-11 Thread Pat White
I have to agree, the MZ-S is a real pleasure to use.  Even when I'm not
using it, I want to pick it up and take pictures.  As well, the data
imprinting is very useful.  If you shoot several rolls of film in a single
day, it's easy to put them in order (over 160 rolls so far, and more pleased
with every one).

The AF is really good, even in dim light.  As for it being fiddly to change
AF sensors, when the Auto setting doesn't suit the job, like for a portrait
vertical, I just slide the switch to Lock and use the sensor I used last
time (usually the second from the right, to line up with the model's eye).
It's rare that I need to lock on another sensor, but it's not that difficult
to choose another.

The MZ-S may not suit everyone, but it certainly suits me.

Pat White




Re: I really like the MZ-S!

2003-11-11 Thread Arnold Stark
Jose R. Rodriguez schrieb:

Even though the *istD is a very nice camera, I have recently considered purchasing the MZ-S.  

I just ordered one...

I really like all of its feature, especially the way it handles and that the body is made of a magnesium alloy. 

... for exactly the same reasons. I especially like the user interface 
an the data imprinting function.

That being said, I think/hope that Pentax updates it with at least the following improvements:

*  updated AF system (SAFOX VIII or better) w/improved AF selector

The AF selector of the MZ-S is not bad, its just that everybody seems to 
use it the wrong way. It is easy to use if you don't take he camera from 
your eye. With the left hand holding the camera from below with the left 
thumb being on  the left of the lens mount, use the left index finger to 
push the AF selector button, and use the right thumb and/or index finger 
to turn the wheel to select the AF sensor.

It seems to me that SAFOX VII is not at all worse than SAFOX VIII. OK, 
there is no cross sensor, but if you KNOW that the selected AF sensor is 
a  horizontal or vertical one, you know what it can and will do, thus 
that you can act and select accordingly. With SAFOX VIII. you never know 
what the sensor is concentrating on: horizontal or vertical structures.  
Also, I am under the impression that the linear sensors of SAFOX VII are 
more precise and work better in low light.

*  improved weather sealing (closer to the LX)
*  magnesium alloy camera back (not plastic)
 

these of course would be nice

*  1/3 stop exposure adjustment
*  1/8000 sec top shutter speed
*  1/250 sync speed
these only could be available by making the body larger, and 1/8000 
shutter speed I never need.

*  at least 3+ fps (not as important as the others above)

 not at all important to me

I know this has been discussed in the past, but what are the chances Pentax will put out a MZ-Sn, when it appears that all the rave is digital...

I would say that the chances are nil. There is a much bigger chance that 
Penbax will discontinue more analogue SLRs and introduce more DSLRs. 
Already, the MZ3 is no longer made. Who knows what model will be next? 
The MZ-S never was a high volume camera. I doubt that Pentax is earning 
money with it. They probably only introduced it to have a top model at 
all, in order not to loose all ambitious Pentax photographers. Now the 
*ist D took over this function. The MZ-S already seems like a leftover 
from the past. Grab one while it is still available

Arnold