Re: OT: Eddie - was: Rubens (Was: Re: Insanity test)
I managed to find a place to work in Virginia where a good portion of my co-workers are into F1 at least as much as I am. They've gone to Indy to see the USGP both in 2000 and 2001 and are going again this year (budget and timing have prevented me from joining them). I just hope Speedvision doesn't turn into The NASCAR Channel as has been threatened by FOX Christian On Monday 21 January 2002 00:10, Doug wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 21:00:56 -0500, Christian Skofteland wrote: People in America are so ignorant about international motorsports Hey! I resemble that remark! :-) Unfortunately, you're right, but a few of us are trying desperately to be good enough fans to even out the sods. :-) My brother is trying to get me to go to Le Mans with him this year ... I'm trying to talk him into going next year so we can send mom on a trip this year. But I'll get to Le Mans sometime. If I have to, I'll put it in my will to be cremated and my ashes dumped over the Mulsanne Straight. Or maybe the stadium section at Hockenheim. Or the harbor at Monaco (about the only way I'm going to get to Monaco). TTYL, DougF - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Eddie - was: Rubens (Was: Re: Insanity test)
Paul, I agree that American car companies are interested but it's the American public (and more to the point, the American TV broadcasters) that show little interest. Thank god for Speedvision. If it wasn't for that channel I would not be able to watch any motor racing except NASCAR. Yes the Vipers and Cadillacs do well but we don't get to watch them do well unless we go to the races (or maybe see them tape-delayed on ESPN a week or month late). Christian On Monday 21 January 2002 00:25, you wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 21:00:56 -0500, Christian Skofteland wrote: People in America are so ignorant about international motorsports I don't think that's necessarily true. The Formula One race at Indy has attracted a tremendous amount of support in its two year run, and earlier ventures at Detroit, Watkins Glen and elsewhere were well supported by fans. Some were abandoned because of unreasonable demands from Ecclestone and his motorsports mafia, but the support and interest have always been there. In recent sports car racing venues, Dodge Vipers have won their class at Le Mans, and the new Cadillacs have performed quite well. We are interested in International Motorsports and American automakers are supportive of the various series, but we have other motorsport interests as well. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Eddie - was: Rubens (Was: Re: Insanity test)
It is true that mainstream television doesn't cover or understand international motorsports. Like you said, thank god for speedvision. Paul Christian Skofteland wrote: Paul, I agree that American car companies are interested but it's the American public (and more to the point, the American TV broadcasters) that show little interest. Thank god for Speedvision. If it wasn't for that channel I would not be able to watch any motor racing except NASCAR. Yes the Vipers and Cadillacs do well but we don't get to watch them do well unless we go to the races (or maybe see them tape-delayed on ESPN a week or month late). Christian On Monday 21 January 2002 00:25, you wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 21:00:56 -0500, Christian Skofteland wrote: People in America are so ignorant about international motorsports I don't think that's necessarily true. The Formula One race at Indy has attracted a tremendous amount of support in its two year run, and earlier ventures at Detroit, Watkins Glen and elsewhere were well supported by fans. Some were abandoned because of unreasonable demands from Ecclestone and his motorsports mafia, but the support and interest have always been there. In recent sports car racing venues, Dodge Vipers have won their class at Le Mans, and the new Cadillacs have performed quite well. We are interested in International Motorsports and American automakers are supportive of the various series, but we have other motorsport interests as well. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Eddie - was: Rubens (Was: Re: Insanity test)
Paul Stenquist wrote: It is true that mainstream television doesn't cover or understand international motorsports. Like you said, thank god for speedvision. While it is true that mainstream TV (in the US, at least) does not cover motorsports, I do not believe that is due to lack of understanding. It is because the only thing more boring than watching car races on TV is watching golf. :) Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Eddie - was: Rubens (Was: Re: Insanity test)
hmmm. So I guess every single non-American knows all there is to know about NASCAR? At 9:00 PM -05001/20/02, Christian Skofteland wrote, or at least typed: My favorite Eddie story: A top level executive at Ford in the U.S. (the parent company of Jaguar which is the team he drives for) asked: Who the f*** is Edward Irvine (pronouncing it ervin) and why the f*** is he the second highest paid Ford employee People in America are so ignorant about international motorsports Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Eddie - was: Rubens (Was: Re: Insanity test)
My favorite Eddie story: A top level executive at Ford in the U.S. (the parent company of Jaguar which is the team he drives for) asked: Who the f*** is Edward Irvine (pronouncing it ervin) and why the f*** is he the second highest paid Ford employee People in America are so ignorant about international motorsports Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 5:14 PM Subject: Re: OT: Eddie - was: Rubens (Was: Re: Insanity test) My favourite Eddie Irvine story: He was asked about the design of his helmet, which is orange and green. He explained that he's from Northern Ireland and Protestant, so the orange is his Orangeman heritage. He was then asked why he had green. He said, so the Catholics don't blow my f*g head off! -frank Ed Mathews wrote: He uses the same brutally honest approach in defense of his womanizing off the track too, and that seems to works for him also. Nobody can say he's not having his fun while he can. :) -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT - Insanity test
Those were turbo V-6's in the early '80's. 1500hp in qualifying trim tuned down to 1000 in race trim Amazing. Michael Schumacher drove one as a publicity thing a couple of years ago and was scared of the power and the way it is so different than his modern ride. Christian - Original Message - From: Ed Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] What about the self-destructing 1.5 liter Turbo V10's of the early 80's? Man, those things screamed! I can't imagine the stress on those tiny little pistons. BTW, that sound was not Rueben's V10, it was a recording of Coulthard explaining to the Mercedes engineers what it sounds like each time that Schumacher passes him. :) Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of frank theriault Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 6:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Insanity test Hi, Malcolm, Nah, I didn't really mean that. I was talking about the sound of their F1 engines more than anything else. Actually, one of my favourite Ferraris is the Dino from the early 70's, and it only had a V8. snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Rubens (Was: Re: Insanity test)
Star and Stooges I like it! You've hit it right on! I always liked Eddie Irvine because he took the money and sucked up to Michael without pretending that it was anything else... Don't get me wrong, I'm a HUGE Ferrari fan and I hope Michael wins the championship again and ties Fangio for 5. Christian - Original Message - From: Stephen Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 4:27 PM Subject: Re: OT: Rubens (Was: Re: Insanity test) Christian Skofteland wrote: Don't tell me Rubens has an actual fan? He's such a disappointment to the Tifosi Naw, not a fan, but the poor boy does try real hard. Do the Tifosi realize that over the past quarter century Ferrari has less often been a team and more often been some form of star and stooges routine? ;-) ;-) double wink, ducking and running Stephen - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT - Insanity test
Yes, now I recall. Seems the Porsche TAG McClaren was the most reliable of the bunch, and the BMW inline 4 in the Brabham was the most powerfull. Hard to imagine all that power in 1.5 liters. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Christian Skofteland Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 7:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT - Insanity test Those were turbo V-6's in the early '80's. 1500hp in qualifying trim tuned down to 1000 in race trim Amazing. Michael Schumacher drove one as a publicity thing a couple of years ago and was scared of the power and the way it is so different than his modern ride. snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT: Rubens (Was: Re: Insanity test)
He uses the same brutally honest approach in defense of his womanizing off the track too, and that seems to works for him also. Nobody can say he's not having his fun while he can. :) Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matjaz Osojnik Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 11:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Rubens (Was: Re: Insanity test) Yep. I liked Irvine for the same reason. Matjaz Star and Stooges I like it! You've hit it right on! I always liked Eddie Irvine because he took the money and sucked up to Michael without pretending that it was anything else... Don't get snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Eddie - was: Rubens (Was: Re: Insanity test)
My favourite Eddie Irvine story: He was asked about the design of his helmet, which is orange and green. He explained that he's from Northern Ireland and Protestant, so the orange is his Orangeman heritage. He was then asked why he had green. He said, so the Catholics don't blow my f*g head off! -frank Ed Mathews wrote: He uses the same brutally honest approach in defense of his womanizing off the track too, and that seems to works for him also. Nobody can say he's not having his fun while he can. :) -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Insanity test
Was it cheating to bite the insides of my cheeks to anchor my mouth shut? Anyway, everyone should recognize that the soundtrack is really the actual noise of an old two-stroke Suzuki LJ50 4WD. Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Cameron Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.frenzy.com/~jester/racecar.html The picture was taken with a pentax (not!?) Cameron - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Insanity test
Can't hear the sound - no card here at work. What's the joke? mike Anthony Farr wrote: Was it cheating to bite the insides of my cheeks to anchor my mouth shut? Anyway, everyone should recognize that the soundtrack is really the actual noise of an old two-stroke Suzuki LJ50 4WD. Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Cameron Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.frenzy.com/~jester/racecar.html The picture was taken with a pentax (not!?) Cameron - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Insanity test
Sorry, there's just no way to spell out the sounds that go with that webpage. You'll have to try again at another computer. Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can't hear the sound - no card here at work. What's the joke? mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Insanity test
On Friday, January 18, 2002, at 08:57 AM, mike wilson wrote: Can't hear the sound - no card here at work. What's the joke? Don't let anyone spoil it for you. Wait until you get to a computer that has a sound card. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Rubens (Was: Re: Insanity test)
Don't tell me Rubens has an actual fan? He's such a disappointment to the Tifosi Christian On Friday 18 January 2002 14:05, Stephen wrote: Christian Skofteland wrote: Finally got to see it with sound... Cute. I giggled... More so because it's Rubens Barichello's Ferrari and I'm sure they just recorded the actual sound... Sometimes you are one *nasty* individual! ;-) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Insanity test
Christian Skofteland wrote: Finally got to see it with sound... Cute. I giggled... More so because it's Rubens Barichello's Ferrari and I'm sure they just recorded the actual sound... Sometimes you are one *nasty* individual! ;-) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Insanity test
If it doesn't have a V-12, it ain't a Ferrari! Nothing in F1 sounded like those engines. regards, frank Christian Skofteland wrote: Finally got to see it with sound... Cute. I giggled... More so because it's Rubens Barichello's Ferrari and I'm sure they just recorded the actual sound... Christian -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Insanity test
Frank, You don't mean that! What about the 512BB? Malcolm If it doesn't have a V-12, it ain't a Ferrari! Nothing in F1 sounded like those engines. regards, frank Christian Skofteland wrote: Finally got to see it with sound... Cute. I giggled... More so because it's Rubens Barichello's Ferrari and I'm sure they just recorded the actual sound... Christian -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Insanity test
Hi, Malcolm, Nah, I didn't really mean that. I was talking about the sound of their F1 engines more than anything else. Actually, one of my favourite Ferraris is the Dino from the early 70's, and it only had a V8. regards, frank Malcolm Smith wrote: Frank, You don't mean that! What about the 512BB? Malcolm If it doesn't have a V-12, it ain't a Ferrari! Nothing in F1 sounded like those engines. regards, frank Christian Skofteland wrote: Finally got to see it with sound... Cute. I giggled... More so because it's Rubens Barichello's Ferrari and I'm sure they just recorded the actual sound... Christian -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Insanity test
On 18 Jan 2002 at 18:30, frank theriault wrote: Actually, one of my favourite Ferraris is the Dino from the early 70's, and it only had a V8. And a clutch so heavy that I was sore after a short test drive :-( Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Insanity test
Hi, Rob, As I've never driven or ridden in a Ferrari, am I supposed to feel bad for you? g -frank Rob Studdert wrote: On 18 Jan 2002 at 18:30, frank theriault wrote: Actually, one of my favourite Ferraris is the Dino from the early 70's, and it only had a V8. And a clutch so heavy that I was sore after a short test drive :-( Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Insanity test
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah, I didn't really mean that. I was talking about the sound of their F1 engines more than anything else. Actually, one of my favourite Ferraris is the Dino from the early 70's, and it only had a V8. ARRGH! I cannot leave you alone for a couple of hours!!! The DINO had a V6! Gianfranco (quite sensitive about Ferrari...) = Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Insanity test
So what, it's just another Ford. Ciao, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 9:02 PM Subject: Re: Insanity test frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah, I didn't really mean that. I was talking about the sound of their F1 engines more than anything else. Actually, one of my favourite Ferraris is the Dino from the early 70's, and it only had a V8. ARRGH! I cannot leave you alone for a couple of hours!!! The DINO had a V6! Gianfranco (quite sensitive about Ferrari...) = Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Insanity test
http://www.frenzy.com/~jester/racecar.html The picture was taken with a pentax (not!?) Cameron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Insanity test
I'm legally insane, apparently! LOL. -frank Cameron Hood wrote: http://www.frenzy.com/~jester/racecar.html The picture was taken with a pentax (not!?) Cameron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Insanity test
Man I knew I was insane but this proves it . --- Cameron Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.frenzy.com/~jester/racecar.html The picture was taken with a pentax (not!?) Cameron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . __ Web-hosting solutions for home and business! http://website.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
