Interesting Rumour

2007-03-01 Thread Adam Maas
There's an interesting rumour thread over at APUG, it seems that Carl 
Zeiss may be expanding their new line of 35mm lenses to include a ZK 
line, with an announcement supposedly at PMA.

This would be interesting, as it would mean that there would be a 
readily available 85/1.4 in K mount again, along with the excellent 
25/2.8 Distagon (I don't see much interest in the other ZF lenses here 
in Pentax-land, the macros and 35/2 are too expensive and the 50 
Planar's no better than the FA)

No word on what mount, but I'd expect KA, Zeiss is avoiding electronics, 
but contact coding and a locking aperture ring are easy, and the 
aperture design is already linear on ZF.

The downside? The Planar 85/1.4 simply doesn't match the A* in performance.

The Upside: you can actually get one.

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Interesting Rumour

2010-09-05 Thread Adam Maas
Apparently Pentax will be announcing 2 new lenses with the K-r and
K-5. A cheap 35/2.4 normal and a 18-125 consumer superzoom. The 35/2.4
will be plastic-mount and sub-$200 USD. Given the slow speed when the
equivalents from Nikon and Sony are f1.8, I'm also expecting it to be
quite small.

-Adam

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Re: Interesting Rumour

2007-03-01 Thread Thibouille
Saw that rumour too.
I'd be a great news for Pentax if only because a brand with such
recognition offers support for Pentax bodies.

I hope it is true but I won't hold my breath on this one.

2007/3/1, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> There's an interesting rumour thread over at APUG, it seems that Carl
> Zeiss may be expanding their new line of 35mm lenses to include a ZK
> line, with an announcement supposedly at PMA.
>
> This would be interesting, as it would mean that there would be a
> readily available 85/1.4 in K mount again, along with the excellent
> 25/2.8 Distagon (I don't see much interest in the other ZF lenses here
> in Pentax-land, the macros and 35/2 are too expensive and the 50
> Planar's no better than the FA)
>
> No word on what mount, but I'd expect KA, Zeiss is avoiding electronics,
> but contact coding and a locking aperture ring are easy, and the
> aperture design is already linear on ZF.
>
> The downside? The Planar 85/1.4 simply doesn't match the A* in performance.
>
> The Upside: you can actually get one.
>
> -Adam
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Re: Interesting Rumour

2007-03-01 Thread keith_w
Adam Maas wrote:
> There's an interesting rumour thread over at APUG, it seems that Carl 
> Zeiss may be expanding their new line of 35mm lenses to include a ZK 
> line, with an announcement supposedly at PMA.
> 
> This would be interesting, as it would mean that there would be a 
> readily available 85/1.4 in K mount again, along with the excellent 
> 25/2.8 Distagon (I don't see much interest in the other ZF lenses here 
> in Pentax-land, the macros and 35/2 are too expensive and the 50 
> Planar's no better than the FA)
> 
> No word on what mount, but I'd expect KA, Zeiss is avoiding electronics, 
> but contact coding and a locking aperture ring are easy, and the 
> aperture design is already linear on ZF.
> 
> The downside? The Planar 85/1.4 simply doesn't match the A* in performance.
> 
> The Upside: you can actually get one.
> 
> -Adam
> 

Know what?
Considering how much my SMC Pentax 85mm f/1.8 cost me, used, I can't 
imagine what that 1.4 must cost!

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Re: Interesting Rumour

2007-03-01 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Thibouille" 
Subject: Re: Interesting Rumour


> Saw that rumour too.
> I'd be a great news for Pentax if only because a brand with such
> recognition offers support for Pentax bodies.

Heck, you can get "Schneider" lenses in K mount as OEM. 

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Re: Interesting Rumour

2007-03-01 Thread Toralf Lund

> Adam Maas wrote:
>   
>> The downside? The Planar 85/1.4 simply doesn't match the A* in performance.
>>
>> The Upside: you can actually get one.
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>> 
>
> Know what?
> Considering how much my SMC Pentax 85mm f/1.8 cost me, used, I can't 
> imagine what that 1.4 must cost!
>   
I can!

I can imagine it would cost about $1249 in the US.

But that's just my imagination, of course ;-)

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Re: Interesting Rumour

2007-03-01 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I had two A*85/1.4 lenses ... sold 'em for about $900.00 each.

Tested one of them against Mark's T* 85/1.4 and we (I) could see no obvious
difference except in color rendering, and the diff was very subtle.

Shel

> [Original Message]
> From: keith_w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Date: 3/1/2007 11:01:00 AM
> Subject: Re: Interesting Rumour
>
> Adam Maas wrote:
> > There's an interesting rumour thread over at APUG, it seems that Carl 
> > Zeiss may be expanding their new line of 35mm lenses to include a ZK 
> > line, with an announcement supposedly at PMA.
> > 
> > This would be interesting, as it would mean that there would be a 
> > readily available 85/1.4 in K mount again, along with the excellent 
> > 25/2.8 Distagon (I don't see much interest in the other ZF lenses here 
> > in Pentax-land, the macros and 35/2 are too expensive and the 50 
> > Planar's no better than the FA)
> > 
> > No word on what mount, but I'd expect KA, Zeiss is avoiding
electronics, 
> > but contact coding and a locking aperture ring are easy, and the 
> > aperture design is already linear on ZF.
> > 
> > The downside? The Planar 85/1.4 simply doesn't match the A* in
performance.
> > 
> > The Upside: you can actually get one.
> > 
> > -Adam
> > 
>
> Know what?
> Considering how much my SMC Pentax 85mm f/1.8 cost me, used, I can't 
> imagine what that 1.4 must cost!
>
> keith whaley
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Re: Interesting Rumour

2007-03-01 Thread keith_w
Toralf Lund wrote:
>> Adam Maas wrote:
>>   
>>> The downside? The Planar 85/1.4 simply doesn't match the A* in performance.
>>>
>>> The Upside: you can actually get one.
>>>
>>> -Adam


>> Know what?
>> Considering how much my SMC Pentax 85mm f/1.8 cost me, used, I can't 
>> imagine what that 1.4 must cost!


> I can!
> 
> I can imagine it would cost about $1249 in the US.
> 
> But that's just my imagination, of course ;-)
> 
> - T

Wow!
Three times more costly for what, a third of a stop more open?
Naw...I like my 1.8 and will keep it.

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Re: Interesting Rumour

2007-03-01 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Toralf Lund"
Subject: Re: Interesting Rumour


>

>
> I can imagine it would cost about $1249 in the US.
>
> But that's just my imagination, of course ;-)
>
>

Close. I paid a little over $100.00 more than that for my A85/1.4, just over 
a year ago.

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Re: Interesting Rumour

2007-03-01 Thread Toralf Lund

>> I can imagine it would cost about $1249 in the US.
>>
>> But that's just my imagination, of course ;-)
>>
>>
>> 
>
> Close. I paid a little over $100.00 more than that for my A85/1.4, just over 
> a year ago.
>   
Right. My guess was of course just the price of the Zeiss lens, in its 
Nikon mount incarnation, on one of the US shops. I "imagined" the A85 
went for something in the same range. I've seen prices in the past, that 
is, but I couldn't remember exactly what they were...

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Re: Interesting Rumour

2010-09-05 Thread Thibouille
2010/9/5 Adam Maas :
> Given the slow speed when the
> equivalents from Nikon and Sony are f1.8, I'm also expecting it to be
> quite small.
>

It'd better. There's been talks of 30/2.1 as well.

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Re: Interesting Rumour

2010-09-05 Thread drd1135
One reason I got rid of my DA 40 was it was just an awkward foc length that 
wasn't good for much. I wonder how cheap Pentax could make a decent small 35 mm 
prime?
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Apparently Pentax will be announcing 2 new lenses with the K-r and
K-5. A cheap 35/2.4 normal and a 18-125 consumer superzoom. The 35/2.4
will be plastic-mount and sub-$200 USD. Given the slow speed when the
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Re: Interesting Rumour

2010-09-05 Thread Miserere
F/2.4??? That better be false.

And if it's true, the lens has to be no thicker than a rear lens cap.

  --M.



On 05/09/2010, Adam Maas  wrote:
> Apparently Pentax will be announcing 2 new lenses with the K-r and
> K-5. A cheap 35/2.4 normal and a 18-125 consumer superzoom. The 35/2.4
> will be plastic-mount and sub-$200 USD. Given the slow speed when the
> equivalents from Nikon and Sony are f1.8, I'm also expecting it to be
> quite small.
>
> -Adam
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Re: Interesting Rumour

2010-09-05 Thread Thibouille
Yep, as a pancake, why not.
As a fast normal, no way, even DA-L.

Simplest thing would be an FA35 repackaged as DA-L.
Easy enough IMO.

2010/9/5 Miserere :
> F/2.4??? That better be false.
>
> And if it's true, the lens has to be no thicker than a rear lens cap.
>
>  --M.
>
>
>
> On 05/09/2010, Adam Maas  wrote:
>> Apparently Pentax will be announcing 2 new lenses with the K-r and
>> K-5. A cheap 35/2.4 normal and a 18-125 consumer superzoom. The 35/2.4
>> will be plastic-mount and sub-$200 USD. Given the slow speed when the
>> equivalents from Nikon and Sony are f1.8, I'm also expecting it to be
>> quite small.
>>
>> -Adam
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Re: Interesting Rumour

2010-09-05 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Miserere  wrote:
> F/2.4??? That better be false.
>
> And if it's true, the lens has to be no thicker than a rear lens cap.
>
>  --M.
>
>

I expect it to be significantly smaller than the Sony or Nikon
35/1.8's (both of which are larger than the FA 50/1.4)

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Re: Interesting Rumour

2010-09-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
Your camera actually gets shorter when you put this lens on ;-p

One regret I have is never buying the FA 35 2.0.

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Thibouille  wrote:
> Yep, as a pancake, why not.
> As a fast normal, no way, even DA-L.
>
> Simplest thing would be an FA35 repackaged as DA-L.
> Easy enough IMO.
>
> 2010/9/5 Miserere :
>> F/2.4??? That better be false.
>>
>> And if it's true, the lens has to be no thicker than a rear lens cap.
>>
>>  --M.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 05/09/2010, Adam Maas  wrote:
>>> Apparently Pentax will be announcing 2 new lenses with the K-r and
>>> K-5. A cheap 35/2.4 normal and a 18-125 consumer superzoom. The 35/2.4
>>> will be plastic-mount and sub-$200 USD. Given the slow speed when the
>>> equivalents from Nikon and Sony are f1.8, I'm also expecting it to be
>>> quite small.
>>>
>>> -Adam
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Re: Interesting Rumour

2010-09-05 Thread Dario Bonazza

Steven Desjardins wrote:


Your camera actually gets shorter when you put this lens on ;-p


Yes, as it's a mirror lens. Then the lens mirror mirrors the mirror box and 
you get lost among endless mirroring. At that point, you no longer notice 
any camera length. That's the Pentax response to mirrorless cameras. ;-p


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Re: Interesting Rumour

2010-09-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
I was thinking dark matter but this works too.

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Dario Bonazza  wrote:
> Steven Desjardins wrote:
>
>> Your camera actually gets shorter when you put this lens on ;-p
>
> Yes, as it's a mirror lens. Then the lens mirror mirrors the mirror box and
> you get lost among endless mirroring. At that point, you no longer notice
> any camera length. That's the Pentax response to mirrorless cameras. ;-p
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