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That's right! I forgot about that. They're a separate country, like Monaco except with "different morals"). They issue passports to their citizens, have ambassadors, the whole shebang. Regards, Bob... From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Vatican isn't properly a part of Italy. They probably have their own domain. Cotty wrote: On 11/11/04, Bob Blakely, discombobulated, unleashed: If you paid using Papal, talk to them first. email [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;-)
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The Vatican isn't properly a part of Italy. They probably have their own domain. Cotty wrote: On 11/11/04, Bob Blakely, discombobulated, unleashed: If you paid using Papal, talk to them first. email [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
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>> If >>you paid using Papal, talk to them first. C> email [EMAIL PROTECTED] C> ;-) The correct form should be vatican.va ;-) Good light! fra
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On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, Mishka wrote: > whatever it is, get a refund. complain to ebay. if you paid with paypal, > complain to them. this is a clear misrepresentation. it's going to take time, > but there's a good chance you'll get your money back (i've been in a > very similar > situation). My opinion is you should escalate only if necessary. First things first: talk to the seller politely and tell him what you want. I propose a full refund, including postage even if his policy says otherwise. This is an outrageously broken lens. If he does not play ball, then escalate. Take a deep breath and write a small, polite email. Good luck. Kostas
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On 11/11/04, Bob Blakely, discombobulated, unleashed: > If >you paid using Papal, talk to them first. email [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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That is not fungus. The correct term for what you see there is "ugly shit". Now, "ugly shit" is not an authorized PENTAX SMC coating enhancement. Further, no PENTAX lens, SMC or not, has ever had it's optical quality enhanced by "ugly shit". Return this lens and tell the purveyor that you did not authorize the "ugly shit" enhancement and you want your money back. If you paid using Papal, talk to them first. They do have some sort of "insurance." Regards, Bob... From: "Peter Belak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I received Pentax A70-210/4 from ebay seller (Powerseller, >11000 feedback, 99.6% positive). It was described as optically MINT-, without fungus. The front elements contain many white dots - here is the picture: http://www.pepek.sk/fp/a70-210.jpg and detail here: http://www.pepek.sk/fp/a70-210_detail.jpg Is it fungus? I have never seen this before.. Would you say the description (opt. MINT-) was OK?
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Thanks all for your replies. I am shipping the lens back today. Peter Belak
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Probably makes an excellent soft-focus lens. Just looking on the bright side. Tom C. From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is this fungus? Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 17:23:34 -0500 Peter Belak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I received Pentax A70-210/4 from ebay seller (Powerseller, >11000 >feedback, 99.6% positive). It was described as optically MINT-, >without fungus. >The front elements contain many white dots - here is the picture: >http://www.pepek.sk/fp/a70-210.jpg and detail here: >http://www.pepek.sk/fp/a70-210_detail.jpg Holy &[EMAIL PROTECTED]&@!!! >Is it fungus? I have never seen this before.. Nope. Looks like a pair of glued elements are separating. >Would you say the description (opt. MINT-) was OK? You're joking, right? This lens should have been labeled "non-user - for parts only". -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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whatever it is, get a refund. complain to ebay. if you paid with paypal, complain to them. this is a clear misrepresentation. it's going to take time, but there's a good chance you'll get your money back (i've been in a very similar situation). best, mishka On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 21:35:19 +0100, Peter Belak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I received Pentax A70-210/4 from ebay seller (Powerseller, >11000 > feedback, 99.6% positive). It was described as optically MINT-, > without fungus. > The front elements contain many white dots - here is the picture: > http://www.pepek.sk/fp/a70-210.jpg and detail here: > http://www.pepek.sk/fp/a70-210_detail.jpg > Is it fungus? I have never seen this before.. > Would you say the description (opt. MINT-) was OK? > > Thanks > > Peter Belak > >
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It looks like salt, (NaCl), crystals/stains to me. Peter Belak wrote: I received Pentax A70-210/4 from ebay seller (Powerseller, >11000 feedback, 99.6% positive). It was described as optically MINT-, without fungus. The front elements contain many white dots - here is the picture: http://www.pepek.sk/fp/a70-210.jpg and detail here: http://www.pepek.sk/fp/a70-210_detail.jpg Is it fungus? I have never seen this before.. Would you say the description (opt. MINT-) was OK? Thanks Peter Belak -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
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Wow... The only chance for that lens to be MINT is if the dots are sprayed on with mint cream aka "After Eight". I've never seen a lens with element separation, so I wouldn't know the difference, but there are fungi with growing patterns like that too. Anyways, it's certainly a full refund case! Hope you get your money back, Peter. Jostein - Original Message - From: "Peter Belak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:35 PM Subject: Is this fungus? > I received Pentax A70-210/4 from ebay seller (Powerseller, >11000 > feedback, 99.6% positive). It was described as optically MINT-, > without fungus. > The front elements contain many white dots - here is the picture: > http://www.pepek.sk/fp/a70-210.jpg and detail here: > http://www.pepek.sk/fp/a70-210_detail.jpg > Is it fungus? I have never seen this before.. > Would you say the description (opt. MINT-) was OK? > > Thanks > > Peter Belak >
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That's horrible! I can't tell if it's fungus or lens element separation, but you need to get a complete refund ASAP. As the lens has been grossly misrepresented, I'd try to get your shipping both ways refunded, too. Ask the seller if he sent you the wrong lens. If he's selling that many items, it's possible he grabbed the wrong one to put in the box. Chris On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 21:35:19 +0100, Peter Belak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I received Pentax A70-210/4 from ebay seller (Powerseller, >11000 > feedback, 99.6% positive). It was described as optically MINT-, > without fungus. > The front elements contain many white dots - here is the picture: > http://www.pepek.sk/fp/a70-210.jpg and detail here: > http://www.pepek.sk/fp/a70-210_detail.jpg > Is it fungus? I have never seen this before.. > Would you say the description (opt. MINT-) was OK? > > Thanks > > Peter Belak > >
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Peter Belak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I received Pentax A70-210/4 from ebay seller (Powerseller, >11000 >feedback, 99.6% positive). It was described as optically MINT-, >without fungus. >The front elements contain many white dots - here is the picture: >http://www.pepek.sk/fp/a70-210.jpg and detail here: >http://www.pepek.sk/fp/a70-210_detail.jpg Holy &[EMAIL PROTECTED]&@!!! >Is it fungus? I have never seen this before.. Nope. Looks like a pair of glued elements are separating. >Would you say the description (opt. MINT-) was OK? You're joking, right? This lens should have been labeled "non-user - for parts only". -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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Fungus is *usually* more "spiderwebby", this looks more like the worst case of element seperation I've ever seen. Whatever it is it's horrible! Demand ALL your money, including ALL shipping, back. Don > -Original Message- > From: Peter Belak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 2:35 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Is this fungus? > > > I received Pentax A70-210/4 from ebay seller (Powerseller, >11000 > feedback, 99.6% positive). It was described as optically MINT-, > without fungus. > The front elements contain many white dots - here is the picture: > http://www.pepek.sk/fp/a70-210.jpg and detail here: > http://www.pepek.sk/fp/a70-210_detail.jpg > Is it fungus? I have never seen this before.. > Would you say the description (opt. MINT-) was OK? > > Thanks > > Peter Belak >
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Peter... Whatever it is, it's nasty and you don't want it near your other gear. Run (don't walk) to your computer and demand a full immediate refund, plus shipping charges. That's certainly not MINT-. I got a lens last month that looked like it had been stuffed with cotton! I was fortunate that the seller gave me a prompt refund and an honest apology. t On 11/11/04 12:35, Peter Belak wrote: > I received Pentax A70-210/4 from ebay seller (Powerseller, >11000 > feedback, 99.6% positive). It was described as optically MINT-, > without fungus. > The front elements contain many white dots - here is the picture: > http://www.pepek.sk/fp/a70-210.jpg and detail here: > http://www.pepek.sk/fp/a70-210_detail.jpg > Is it fungus? I have never seen this before.. > Would you say the description (opt. MINT-) was OK? > > Thanks > > Peter Belak > > >
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- Original Message - From: "Peter Belak" Subject: Is this fungus? The front elements contain many white dots - here is the picture: http://www.pepek.sk/fp/a70-210.jpg and detail here: http://www.pepek.sk/fp/a70-210_detail.jpg Is it fungus? I have never seen this before.. It looks more like seperation of a lens group. William Robb
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On 11/11/04, Peter Belak, discombobulated, unleashed: >I received Pentax A70-210/4 from ebay seller (Powerseller, >11000 >feedback, 99.6% positive). It was described as optically MINT-, >without fungus. >The front elements contain many white dots - here is the picture: >http://www.pepek.sk/fp/a70-210.jpg That's OUTRAGEOUS! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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Peter Belak wrote: Would you say the description (opt. MINT-) was OK? Absolutely not. /Henri
Is this fungus?
I received Pentax A70-210/4 from ebay seller (Powerseller, >11000 feedback, 99.6% positive). It was described as optically MINT-, without fungus. The front elements contain many white dots - here is the picture: http://www.pepek.sk/fp/a70-210.jpg and detail here: http://www.pepek.sk/fp/a70-210_detail.jpg Is it fungus? I have never seen this before.. Would you say the description (opt. MINT-) was OK? Thanks Peter Belak
