Re: K-5 and *new* lens purchase
Hi Darren. Congrats on your new K-5 and Sigma lens. As the buyer in your "unexpected lens sale" I'm glad to have contributed in my small way to your purchase of this outstanding camera. I hope ( and fully expect) that you'll be delighted with it, and I look forward to receiving that SMC Tak 45-125 zoom for my collection in the near future! Regards, Jim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 and *new* lens purchase
On Apr 28, 2012, at 8:47 AM, Darren Addy wrote: >> Nice images, but please let us know how you like yours. >> Dave > > Thanks to all for the congrats and input. I will certainly be posting > some stuff shot with the Sigma 28mm f1.8. While I know that there are > (no doubt) optical compromises that needed to be made in the interests > of the fast maximum aperture (or is it minimum aperture...) I figured > that there would be fewer compromises the longer the focal length. > This seems to be seen when you compare the reviews of the lenses > (Sigma 20mm, 24mm, 28mm all f1.8). > > I also liked the fact that the 28mm covers full frame. That means that > on a crop camera, I'm cropping out the edges/corners where, > presumably, the greater objectionables would appear. I also think that > some people don't know how to use a hood, or leave it off on purpose. There is also the case that the hood is probably designed for full frame, and is therefore less effective than it might be on APS. I ran into this with the horrible hood on my FA31. What I ended up doing was stacking a bunch of filter size reducing rings to emulate the wonderfully effective hood on the DA40. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 and *new* lens purchase
>Nice images, but please let us know how you like yours. >Dave Thanks to all for the congrats and input. I will certainly be posting some stuff shot with the Sigma 28mm f1.8. While I know that there are (no doubt) optical compromises that needed to be made in the interests of the fast maximum aperture (or is it minimum aperture...) I figured that there would be fewer compromises the longer the focal length. This seems to be seen when you compare the reviews of the lenses (Sigma 20mm, 24mm, 28mm all f1.8). I also liked the fact that the 28mm covers full frame. That means that on a crop camera, I'm cropping out the edges/corners where, presumably, the greater objectionables would appear. I also think that some people don't know how to use a hood, or leave it off on purpose. We'll see. There are quite a few "WHAT a lens" reviews on the 28mm f1.8. It should be here next Friday. Hopefully I'll get to shoot with it next weekend. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 and *new* lens purchase
Big congrats, Darren! I think we've all mentioned how quiet the camera is--you must have just missed the whisper-clicks :-) Cheers, Christine On Apr 27, 2012, at 3:06 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > I've always been somewhat of a bottom-feeder when it comes to > equipment (you remember me, Mr. Bang-for-the-buck Guy) so this K-5 is > new territory for me (but I think I could get used to it). > I'm very impressed by what I see of the K-5 so far. What I've never > heard anybody talk about before (or maybe I wasn't paying attention) > is how QUIET it is when you fire the shutter. I can take pictures up > close behind people's back and they don't even hear it. Heck, *I* can > hardly hear it! I think I'm in love. > > In another departure from my bottom-feeder ways, I ordered my first > *new* lens yesterday. I made an unexpected lens sale and ordered the > Sigma 28mm f/1.8 EX DG DF Macro AF with the windfall. It should be > here next Friday. If nothing else, it should provide me with some > faster exposure times the next time the Northern Lights decide to show > themselves to South-Central Nebraska! > Interesting images taken with this lens from Flickriver.com: > http://www.flickriver.com/groups/sigma28mm18exdgapo/pool/interesting/ > > The seller has more and their price is more than right on this lens. > If I'm not mistaken this lens will cover full frame (an important > consideration if you are leaning toward Pentax announcing a FF one > day) > : ) > http://www.ebay.com/itm/370564652825?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 and *new* lens purchase
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > I've always been somewhat of a bottom-feeder when it comes to > equipment (you remember me, Mr. Bang-for-the-buck Guy) so this K-5 is > new territory for me (but I think I could get used to it). > I'm very impressed by what I see of the K-5 so far. What I've never > heard anybody talk about before (or maybe I wasn't paying attention) > is how QUIET it is when you fire the shutter. I can take pictures up > close behind people's back and they don't even hear it. Heck, *I* can > hardly hear it! I think I'm in love. Congrats. I to had heard of this reported quiet shutter and am pleased with it on my K-5. The menu is a bit difdferent than my K-10D, but i'm starting to remember were things are now. Just watch how long you push that OK button, it swithches things on the camera, like you af points etc. > > In another departure from my bottom-feeder ways, I ordered my first > *new* lens yesterday. I made an unexpected lens sale and ordered the > Sigma 28mm f/1.8 EX DG DF Macro AF with the windfall. It should be > here next Friday. If nothing else, it should provide me with some > faster exposure times the next time the Northern Lights decide to show > themselves to South-Central Nebraska! > Interesting images taken with this lens from Flickriver.com: > http://www.flickriver.com/groups/sigma28mm18exdgapo/pool/interesting/ Nice images, but please let us know how you like yours. Dave > > The seller has more and their price is more than right on this lens. > If I'm not mistaken this lens will cover full frame (an important > consideration if you are leaning toward Pentax announcing a FF one > day) > : ) > http://www.ebay.com/itm/370564652825?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 and *new* lens purchase
Congratulations, Darren. I have Sigma EX 24-60/2.8 zoom lens which proves to be surprisingly good. Yet, you might want to consider stopping down your Sigma to f/2.4 or even f/2.8 for optimal performance. Like we say in Russian - "You get used to the good things very rapidly"... On 4/27/2012 23:06, Darren Addy wrote: I've always been somewhat of a bottom-feeder when it comes to equipment (you remember me, Mr. Bang-for-the-buck Guy) so this K-5 is new territory for me (but I think I could get used to it). I'm very impressed by what I see of the K-5 so far. What I've never heard anybody talk about before (or maybe I wasn't paying attention) is how QUIET it is when you fire the shutter. I can take pictures up close behind people's back and they don't even hear it. Heck, *I* can hardly hear it! I think I'm in love. In another departure from my bottom-feeder ways, I ordered my first *new* lens yesterday. I made an unexpected lens sale and ordered the Sigma 28mm f/1.8 EX DG DF Macro AF with the windfall. It should be here next Friday. If nothing else, it should provide me with some faster exposure times the next time the Northern Lights decide to show themselves to South-Central Nebraska! Interesting images taken with this lens from Flickriver.com: http://www.flickriver.com/groups/sigma28mm18exdgapo/pool/interesting/ The seller has more and their price is more than right on this lens. If I'm not mistaken this lens will cover full frame (an important consideration if you are leaning toward Pentax announcing a FF one day) : ) http://www.ebay.com/itm/370564652825?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 and *new* lens purchase
On Apr 27, 2012, at 6:50 PM, David Parsons wrote: > Heh, that reminds me of the 645D lecture that we attended. I tried > out one of the SDM lenses that the Pentax rep had, and it was silent. > I thought the thing was broken until it came into focus. :) Almost the opposite happened to me. I hadn't had my 16-50 very long, and I took a photo of a Veyron with a classic Bugatti in the background. It wasn't until a few minutes later that I realized that my camera was in manual focus, and with the wide lens, I hadn't noticed. When I got home, I discovered that the upper right quarter of the photo was even better than the one I was trying to get: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4902762069/ > > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: >> >> I do love how quiet the K-5 is. The other day, I had been shooting >> with the 55-300, which makes a racket, just to focus. Then I switched >> to the 50-135, and wow!! I had forgotten how whisper-quiet that is... >> I almost thought it was broken. >> >> Enjoy! >> -c >> >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Darren Addy wrote: >>> I've always been somewhat of a bottom-feeder when it comes to >>> equipment (you remember me, Mr. Bang-for-the-buck Guy) so this K-5 is >>> new territory for me (but I think I could get used to it). >>> I'm very impressed by what I see of the K-5 so far. What I've never >>> heard anybody talk about before (or maybe I wasn't paying attention) >>> is how QUIET it is when you fire the shutter. I can take pictures up >>> close behind people's back and they don't even hear it. Heck, *I* can >>> hardly hear it! I think I'm in love. >>> >>> In another departure from my bottom-feeder ways, I ordered my first >>> *new* lens yesterday. I made an unexpected lens sale and ordered the >>> Sigma 28mm f/1.8 EX DG DF Macro AF with the windfall. It should be >>> here next Friday. If nothing else, it should provide me with some >>> faster exposure times the next time the Northern Lights decide to show >>> themselves to South-Central Nebraska! >>> Interesting images taken with this lens from Flickriver.com: >>> http://www.flickriver.com/groups/sigma28mm18exdgapo/pool/interesting/ >>> >>> The seller has more and their price is more than right on this lens. >>> If I'm not mistaken this lens will cover full frame (an important >>> consideration if you are leaning toward Pentax announcing a FF one >>> day) >>> : ) >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/370564652825?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > > -- > David Parsons Photography > http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com > > Aloha Photographer Photoblog > http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 and *new* lens purchase
Heh, that reminds me of the 645D lecture that we attended. I tried out one of the SDM lenses that the Pentax rep had, and it was silent. I thought the thing was broken until it came into focus. :) On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: > > I do love how quiet the K-5 is. The other day, I had been shooting > with the 55-300, which makes a racket, just to focus. Then I switched > to the 50-135, and wow!! I had forgotten how whisper-quiet that is... > I almost thought it was broken. > > Enjoy! > -c > > > > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Darren Addy wrote: >> I've always been somewhat of a bottom-feeder when it comes to >> equipment (you remember me, Mr. Bang-for-the-buck Guy) so this K-5 is >> new territory for me (but I think I could get used to it). >> I'm very impressed by what I see of the K-5 so far. What I've never >> heard anybody talk about before (or maybe I wasn't paying attention) >> is how QUIET it is when you fire the shutter. I can take pictures up >> close behind people's back and they don't even hear it. Heck, *I* can >> hardly hear it! I think I'm in love. >> >> In another departure from my bottom-feeder ways, I ordered my first >> *new* lens yesterday. I made an unexpected lens sale and ordered the >> Sigma 28mm f/1.8 EX DG DF Macro AF with the windfall. It should be >> here next Friday. If nothing else, it should provide me with some >> faster exposure times the next time the Northern Lights decide to show >> themselves to South-Central Nebraska! >> Interesting images taken with this lens from Flickriver.com: >> http://www.flickriver.com/groups/sigma28mm18exdgapo/pool/interesting/ >> >> The seller has more and their price is more than right on this lens. >> If I'm not mistaken this lens will cover full frame (an important >> consideration if you are leaning toward Pentax announcing a FF one >> day) >> : ) >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/370564652825?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 and *new* lens purchase
Congrats, Mr. Bang. You better be careful, next thing you know, you'll be buying LN- lenses at KEH, and before long... you'll accept nothing but brand-new from B&H, at the new & improved msrp! :) I do love how quiet the K-5 is. The other day, I had been shooting with the 55-300, which makes a racket, just to focus. Then I switched to the 50-135, and wow!! I had forgotten how whisper-quiet that is... I almost thought it was broken. Enjoy! -c On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > I've always been somewhat of a bottom-feeder when it comes to > equipment (you remember me, Mr. Bang-for-the-buck Guy) so this K-5 is > new territory for me (but I think I could get used to it). > I'm very impressed by what I see of the K-5 so far. What I've never > heard anybody talk about before (or maybe I wasn't paying attention) > is how QUIET it is when you fire the shutter. I can take pictures up > close behind people's back and they don't even hear it. Heck, *I* can > hardly hear it! I think I'm in love. > > In another departure from my bottom-feeder ways, I ordered my first > *new* lens yesterday. I made an unexpected lens sale and ordered the > Sigma 28mm f/1.8 EX DG DF Macro AF with the windfall. It should be > here next Friday. If nothing else, it should provide me with some > faster exposure times the next time the Northern Lights decide to show > themselves to South-Central Nebraska! > Interesting images taken with this lens from Flickriver.com: > http://www.flickriver.com/groups/sigma28mm18exdgapo/pool/interesting/ > > The seller has more and their price is more than right on this lens. > If I'm not mistaken this lens will cover full frame (an important > consideration if you are leaning toward Pentax announcing a FF one > day) > : ) > http://www.ebay.com/itm/370564652825?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 and *new* lens purchase
On Apr 27, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > I've always been somewhat of a bottom-feeder when it comes to > equipment (you remember me, Mr. Bang-for-the-buck Guy) so this K-5 is > new territory for me (but I think I could get used to it). > I'm very impressed by what I see of the K-5 so far. What I've never > heard anybody talk about before (or maybe I wasn't paying attention) > is how QUIET it is when you fire the shutter. I can take pictures up > close behind people's back and they don't even hear it. Heck, *I* can > hardly hear it! I think I'm in love. I think that's the first thing anyone comments on when they first use a K-5, but until you experience it for yourself, it just doesn't register how significant it is. > > In another departure from my bottom-feeder ways, I ordered my first > *new* lens yesterday. I made an unexpected lens sale and ordered the > Sigma 28mm f/1.8 EX DG DF Macro AF with the windfall. It should be > here next Friday. If nothing else, it should provide me with some > faster exposure times the next time the Northern Lights decide to show > themselves to South-Central Nebraska! I'm interested to see how it works out. I'd love a fast macroish standard prime, and have been longing for the DA35 macro for years. I have a love/hate relationship with my sigma 20/1.8. In anything but really good light it's hard to get a good, well focused photo out of it, but when it does work, it's brilliant. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 and *new* lens purchase
I'm looking forward to seeing some images taken with the Sigma. A friend of mine just bought the Pentax 10-17, but I don't like the distortion of it. I'm hankering' for a good ultra wide angle, and it is going to either be Pentax or Sigma. Jeffery On Apr 27, 2012, at 3:50 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > There are no bad lenses. Only lenses used badly. > > I'm not sure if some of those images are truly low contrast from > flare, or if they have been lomographied with Instagram or something. > > In any event, in this day and age, there is no excuse not to know what > you are getting when you purchase a lens. Between online galleries and > owner reviews you can pretty much tell if a lens is going to fit your > use for it. Fortunately, my use for it is probably not going to > involve shooting directly into the sun very often. > :) > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 and *new* lens purchase
There are no bad lenses. Only lenses used badly. I'm not sure if some of those images are truly low contrast from flare, or if they have been lomographied with Instagram or something. In any event, in this day and age, there is no excuse not to know what you are getting when you purchase a lens. Between online galleries and owner reviews you can pretty much tell if a lens is going to fit your use for it. Fortunately, my use for it is probably not going to involve shooting directly into the sun very often. :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 and *new* lens purchase
If one was ever wondering if the Sigma 28/1.8 tended to flare, this should put the question to rest. Jeffery On Apr 27, 2012, at 3:06 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > I've always been somewhat of a bottom-feeder when it comes to > equipment (you remember me, Mr. Bang-for-the-buck Guy) so this K-5 is > new territory for me (but I think I could get used to it). > I'm very impressed by what I see of the K-5 so far. What I've never > heard anybody talk about before (or maybe I wasn't paying attention) > is how QUIET it is when you fire the shutter. I can take pictures up > close behind people's back and they don't even hear it. Heck, *I* can > hardly hear it! I think I'm in love. > > In another departure from my bottom-feeder ways, I ordered my first > *new* lens yesterday. I made an unexpected lens sale and ordered the > Sigma 28mm f/1.8 EX DG DF Macro AF with the windfall. It should be > here next Friday. If nothing else, it should provide me with some > faster exposure times the next time the Northern Lights decide to show > themselves to South-Central Nebraska! > Interesting images taken with this lens from Flickriver.com: > http://www.flickriver.com/groups/sigma28mm18exdgapo/pool/interesting/ > > The seller has more and their price is more than right on this lens. > If I'm not mistaken this lens will cover full frame (an important > consideration if you are leaning toward Pentax announcing a FF one > day) > : ) > http://www.ebay.com/itm/370564652825?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 and *new* lens purchase
Congratulations Darren! -- Kent Brede http://kentonbrede.com/ On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > I've always been somewhat of a bottom-feeder when it comes to > equipment (you remember me, Mr. Bang-for-the-buck Guy) so this K-5 is > new territory for me (but I think I could get used to it). > I'm very impressed by what I see of the K-5 so far. What I've never > heard anybody talk about before (or maybe I wasn't paying attention) > is how QUIET it is when you fire the shutter. I can take pictures up > close behind people's back and they don't even hear it. Heck, *I* can > hardly hear it! I think I'm in love. > > In another departure from my bottom-feeder ways, I ordered my first > *new* lens yesterday. I made an unexpected lens sale and ordered the > Sigma 28mm f/1.8 EX DG DF Macro AF with the windfall. It should be > here next Friday. If nothing else, it should provide me with some > faster exposure times the next time the Northern Lights decide to show > themselves to South-Central Nebraska! > Interesting images taken with this lens from Flickriver.com: > http://www.flickriver.com/groups/sigma28mm18exdgapo/pool/interesting/ > > The seller has more and their price is more than right on this lens. > If I'm not mistaken this lens will cover full frame (an important > consideration if you are leaning toward Pentax announcing a FF one > day) > : ) > http://www.ebay.com/itm/370564652825?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K-5 and *new* lens purchase
I've always been somewhat of a bottom-feeder when it comes to equipment (you remember me, Mr. Bang-for-the-buck Guy) so this K-5 is new territory for me (but I think I could get used to it). I'm very impressed by what I see of the K-5 so far. What I've never heard anybody talk about before (or maybe I wasn't paying attention) is how QUIET it is when you fire the shutter. I can take pictures up close behind people's back and they don't even hear it. Heck, *I* can hardly hear it! I think I'm in love. In another departure from my bottom-feeder ways, I ordered my first *new* lens yesterday. I made an unexpected lens sale and ordered the Sigma 28mm f/1.8 EX DG DF Macro AF with the windfall. It should be here next Friday. If nothing else, it should provide me with some faster exposure times the next time the Northern Lights decide to show themselves to South-Central Nebraska! Interesting images taken with this lens from Flickriver.com: http://www.flickriver.com/groups/sigma28mm18exdgapo/pool/interesting/ The seller has more and their price is more than right on this lens. If I'm not mistaken this lens will cover full frame (an important consideration if you are leaning toward Pentax announcing a FF one day) : ) http://www.ebay.com/itm/370564652825?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.