Re: K10D-K-5 size

2010-11-07 Thread Boris Liberman

I thought so too, Cotty...

On 11/7/2010 1:04 AM, Cotty wrote:

On 6/11/10, P N Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:


It would be too small for me without the grip, but with
the trip it's excellent.


Paul I thought you were laying off the pills for a while.

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Re: K10D-K-5 size

2010-11-07 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 On 6/11/10, P N Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

 It would be too small for me without the grip, but with
the trip it's excellent.

 Paul I thought you were laying off the pills for a while.

Paul is taking my study at home class.

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Re: K10D-K-5 size

2010-11-07 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 5:44 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 It's smaller. It would be too small for me without the grip, but with the
 trip it's excellent. It's shaped better than previous Pentax DSLRs -- more
 of a built in grip that is properly proportioned. The same as the K-7 if
 you've tried that.
 Paul

Never tried the K7. As long as its bigger than the istD, which i found
to small for my liking.
I'm used to the big bulky cameras, like my D series, they seem to fit
short stubby hands like mine.

Dave
 On Nov 6, 2010, at 4:28 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Is it bigger, smaller, the same.??

 I found the istD to small, but the K10D just right.

 Go for it guys

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Re: K10D-K-5 size

2010-11-07 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 07:24:59AM -0500, David J Brooks wrote:
 
 Never tried the K7. As long as its bigger than the istD, which i found
 to small for my liking.
 I'm used to the big bulky cameras, like my D series, they seem to fit
 short stubby hands like mine.

Here's a post I made to the group at the time the K-7 was announced:
(I've updated the table to include the dimensions of the K-x)

   W HD
K-7:  131 x  97 x 73 mm
K-x:  123 x  92 x 68 mm
*ist-D:   129 x  95 x 60 mm
K10D: 142 x 101 x 70 mm
K200D:135 x  97 x 77 mm
MX:   136 x  83 x 50 mm
ME:   131 x  83 x 50 mm
LX:   145 x  91 x 50 mm
MZ-5n:135 x  90 x 62 mm
MZ-S: 137 x  95 x 64 mm
PZ-1p:152 x  96 x 74 mm

And a few comparisons from other manufacturers:

EOS 50D:  154 x 111 x 81 mm
EOS-1 Ds: 150 x 160 x 80 mm (includes battery grip)

D90:  132 x 103 x 77 mm
D300: 147 x 114 x 74 mm
D3x:  160 x 157 x 88 mm (includes battery grip)

E620: 130 x  96 x 59 mm



My observations, in no particular order:

 o  Digital cameras are much thicker than film bodies.
But a lot of this is because of the hand grip; if
you discount that, things look a lot closer.

 o  The PZ-1p was *enormous* for a Pentax film body.

 o  The K-7 is very close in size to the *ist-D, except
for the depth.  So if you liked the size of the *ist-D,
you will probably be happy with the feel of the K-7.
If you thought the *ist-D was too small, you may feel
the same way about the K-7, although the restyled grip
should make the K-7 feel better in the hand.

 o  The Nikon D90 is a pretty compact camera, too.  Not
quite as small as the K-7, but definitely no behemoth.


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Re: K10D-K-5 size

2010-11-07 Thread Miserere
On 7 November 2010 16:00, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 07:24:59AM -0500, David J Brooks wrote:

 Never tried the K7. As long as its bigger than the istD, which i found
 to small for my liking.
 I'm used to the big bulky cameras, like my D series, they seem to fit
 short stubby hands like mine.

 Here's a post I made to the group at the time the K-7 was announced:
 (I've updated the table to include the dimensions of the K-x)

           W     H    D
 K-7:      131 x  97 x 73 mm
 K-x:      123 x  92 x 68 mm
 *ist-D:   129 x  95 x 60 mm
 K10D:     142 x 101 x 70 mm
 K200D:    135 x  97 x 77 mm
 MX:       136 x  83 x 50 mm
 ME:       131 x  83 x 50 mm
 LX:       145 x  91 x 50 mm
 MZ-5n:    135 x  90 x 62 mm
 MZ-S:     137 x  95 x 64 mm
 PZ-1p:    152 x  96 x 74 mm

 And a few comparisons from other manufacturers:

 EOS 50D:  154 x 111 x 81 mm
 EOS-1 Ds: 150 x 160 x 80 mm (includes battery grip)

 D90:      132 x 103 x 77 mm
 D300:     147 x 114 x 74 mm
 D3x:      160 x 157 x 88 mm (includes battery grip)

 E620:     130 x  96 x 59 mm



 My observations, in no particular order:

  o  Digital cameras are much thicker than film bodies.
    But a lot of this is because of the hand grip; if
    you discount that, things look a lot closer.

  o  The PZ-1p was *enormous* for a Pentax film body.

  o  The K-7 is very close in size to the *ist-D, except
    for the depth.  So if you liked the size of the *ist-D,
    you will probably be happy with the feel of the K-7.
    If you thought the *ist-D was too small, you may feel
    the same way about the K-7, although the restyled grip
    should make the K-7 feel better in the hand.

  o  The Nikon D90 is a pretty compact camera, too.  Not
    quite as small as the K-7, but definitely no behemoth.

John,

Not to nitpick, but the K100D is sorely missing from that comparison.

The K-7/5 feels a lot smaller than the numbers would lead one to
believe, at least compared to the K10/20D.


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Re: K10D-K-5 size

2010-11-07 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 04:07:12PM -0500, Miserere wrote:
 
 Not to nitpick, but the K100D is sorely missing from that comparison.

Boz's pentax site at  http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/K_D/index.html

gives the dimensions of the K1xx bodies as 129.5 x 92.4 x 70 mm

That should give you some idea.  Boz also shows the dimensions of the
K200D as 133.5 x 95 x 74, which doesn't quite match the numbers I gave.

For completeness, the K-r dimensions are 124.5 x 96.5 x 68.5 mm


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K10D-K-5 size

2010-11-06 Thread David J Brooks
Is it bigger, smaller, the same.??

I found the istD to small, but the K10D just right.

Go for it guys

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Re: K10D-K-5 size

2010-11-06 Thread eckinator
AFAIK K-5 is same as K-7, i.e. much smaller than a K10D. I'm just as
happy with my K10D as with my buddy's K-7 even though as well as
because there is a little less bulk and weight - K-7 has a better
shaped battery grip, K10D is a bit steadier to handle in landscape.
Personally I'm saving up for a K-5 plus D-BG4 and I'll load it with AA
batteries to make it heavier.
Cheers
Ecke

2010/11/6 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com:
 Is it bigger, smaller, the same.??

 I found the istD to small, but the K10D just right.

 Go for it guys

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Re: K10D-K-5 size

2010-11-06 Thread Miserere
On 6 November 2010 16:28, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is it bigger, smaller, the same.??

 I found the istD to small, but the K10D just right.

 Go for it guys

 Dave

Ecke is correct, the K-5 is the same size as the K-7. Today Dave
Parsons and I compared the K-5 to the K100D Super and they are very
similar is size. If you look for the DPReview review of the K-7 they
probably have side-by-side pics of it with the K20D (which is the same
body as the K10D); that should tell you what you need to know.


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Re: K10D-K-5 size

2010-11-06 Thread P N Stenquist
It's smaller. It would be too small for me without the grip, but with  
the trip it's excellent. It's shaped better than previous Pentax DSLRs  
-- more of a built in grip that is properly proportioned. The same as  
the K-7 if you've tried that.

Paul
On Nov 6, 2010, at 4:28 PM, David J Brooks wrote:


Is it bigger, smaller, the same.??

I found the istD to small, but the K10D just right.

Go for it guys

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Re: K10D-K-5 size

2010-11-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/11/10, P N Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

 It would be too small for me without the grip, but with
the trip it's excellent.

Paul I thought you were laying off the pills for a while.

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