Re: K10D - auto white balance default adjustment...
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 11:13:08 -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote > What are you using for processing? Lightroom or some other software? > > I started with the K10D using RAW/DNG capture mode and had a bunch > of files in Lightroom v4.1 Beta before Lightroom v1.0 was released. > I ran the out-of-camera DNG files through DNG Converter to compress > them and save disk space. Once the catalog was updated in LR 1.0, I > noticed that about 1/3 of them did a hefty color shift. Not all, > which is somewhat puzzling. > > Since then I upgraded my workflow to capture in PEF format (to save > space on the card in-camera) and convert on the fly to DNG format > with Lightroom. I haven't seen anything different about the color > balance if I import K10D RAW/PEF files directly, however. > > It should be simple enough to run a few exposures in pairs with RAW/ > DNG and RAW/PEF on the K10D, compare them. Perhaps I'll do that > today... :-) > > Godfrey Hi Godfrey I'm mainly using Photoshop CS3 and ACR 4.1, (I've just upgraded to ACR 4.2 with the release of Lightroom 1.2). I was using CS3 at the time and noticed quite a dramatic shift in colour between DNG and PEF, I was too busy to investigate the reason and promptly switched back to DNG. It wasn't long after I'd done a complete reformat of the PC so may just have been a colour space problem or something similar, but I'm curious enough to try a few exposures between DNG and PEF myself on the chance that it's a problem with the camera. I'd like to use the PEF format for the space saving advantages. Regards, John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - auto white balance default adjustment...
On Sep 18, 2007, at 9:07 AM, John Whittingham wrote: >> I've experimented with it some. I can see some situations where >> using an adjustment to the AWB base settings could help a bit, like >> for instance if you were going to be doing a lot of indoor shooting >> under tungsten light it would make the in-camera JPEGs a lot closer >> to what you wanted. >> >> Since I use RAW capture the vast majority of the time and use >> Lightroom for processing, it doesn't really do much to reduce my >> workflow, however. > > Interesting, I shoot mainly in RAW and sometimes RAW + Jpg. > Recently I tried > the PEF format and noticed a marked difference between PEF and DNG > RAW files > in terms of colour temperature, I switched back to DNG. Have you > had similar > experiences? What are you using for processing? Lightroom or some other software? I started with the K10D using RAW/DNG capture mode and had a bunch of files in Lightroom v4.1 Beta before Lightroom v1.0 was released. I ran the out-of-camera DNG files through DNG Converter to compress them and save disk space. Once the catalog was updated in LR 1.0, I noticed that about 1/3 of them did a hefty color shift. Not all, which is somewhat puzzling. Since then I upgraded my workflow to capture in PEF format (to save space on the card in-camera) and convert on the fly to DNG format with Lightroom. I haven't seen anything different about the color balance if I import K10D RAW/PEF files directly, however. It should be simple enough to run a few exposures in pairs with RAW/ DNG and RAW/PEF on the K10D, compare them. Perhaps I'll do that today... :-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - auto white balance default adjustment...
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 08:02:38 -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote > I've experimented with it some. I can see some situations where > using an adjustment to the AWB base settings could help a bit, like > for instance if you were going to be doing a lot of indoor shooting > under tungsten light it would make the in-camera JPEGs a lot closer > to what you wanted. > > Since I use RAW capture the vast majority of the time and use > Lightroom for processing, it doesn't really do much to reduce my > workflow, however. > > Godfrey Interesting, I shoot mainly in RAW and sometimes RAW + Jpg. Recently I tried the PEF format and noticed a marked difference between PEF and DNG RAW files in terms of colour temperature, I switched back to DNG. Have you had similar experiences? John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - auto white balance default adjustment...
I've experimented with it some. I can see some situations where using an adjustment to the AWB base settings could help a bit, like for instance if you were going to be doing a lot of indoor shooting under tungsten light it would make the in-camera JPEGs a lot closer to what you wanted. Since I use RAW capture the vast majority of the time and use Lightroom for processing, it doesn't really do much to reduce my workflow, however. Godfrey On Sep 18, 2007, at 12:44 AM, John Whittingham wrote: > Did you give this a try? > > On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 08:41:06 -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote >> Here's a feature I hadn't seen, posted by someone on DPReview: >> >> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp? >> forum=1036&message=24752248 >> >>> Forum Pentax SLR Talk >>> Subject K10D Auto White Balance Pre Set Adjustment for RAW >>> Posted by Dave istDS >>> Date/Time 2:57:17 PM, Sunday, September 09, 2007 (GMT) >>> I use Lightroom to process my K10D RAW images and with the camera >>> set to AWB, that I use most of the time, I have to shift the LR >>> white balance control about 300 degrees towards yellow to get a >>> better result. I have been trying to find a way to put this offset >>> into LR without adjusting the Camera Claibration as I have this >>> set.I knew that there was a way to fine tune the AWB setting on the >>> camera and thought that this was only when shooting JPG’s but I >>> have just tried it and it also works for RAW. The handbook page 124 >>> gives details but does not mention RAW. I know it is not changing >>> the RAW data in anyway and is just reporting a different colour >>> temperature and I guess it is setting an offset to the cameras WB >>> measuring circuit. It stays set even when switched off and reports >>> the offset on the top and rear displays. What more could you ask >>> for! >>> >>> Is it only me that did not know about this great feature? >>> >>> Dave. >> >> I'm going to give it a try and see what it does. Has anyone else >> used it? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - auto white balance default adjustment...
Hi Godfrey Did you give this a try? Regards, John On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 08:41:06 -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote > Here's a feature I hadn't seen, posted by someone on DPReview: > > http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=24752248 > > > Forum Pentax SLR Talk > > Subject K10D Auto White Balance Pre Set Adjustment for RAW > > Posted by Dave istDS > > Date/Time 2:57:17 PM, Sunday, September 09, 2007 (GMT) > > I use Lightroom to process my K10D RAW images and with the camera > > set to AWB, that I use most of the time, I have to shift the LR > > white balance control about 300 degrees towards yellow to get a > > better result. I have been trying to find a way to put this offset > > into LR without adjusting the Camera Claibration as I have this > > set.I knew that there was a way to fine tune the AWB setting on the [WINDOWS-1252?]> > camera and thought that this was only when shooting JPGs but I > > have just tried it and it also works for RAW. The handbook page 124 > > gives details but does not mention RAW. I know it is not changing > > the RAW data in anyway and is just reporting a different colour > > temperature and I guess it is setting an offset to the cameras WB > > measuring circuit. It stays set even when switched off and reports > > the offset on the top and rear displays. What more could you ask for! > > > > Is it only me that did not know about this great feature? > > > > Dave. > > I'm going to give it a try and see what it does. Has anyone else > used it? > > Godfrey > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > --- - > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom > it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged > material. If you have received an email in error please notify > Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it > from your systems. > > Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email > attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be > free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. > > Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for > inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for > the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not > necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held > responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. > > --- - John Whittingham Technician The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - auto white balance default adjustment...
On 9/9/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's a feature I hadn't seen, posted by someone on DPReview: > > http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=24752248 > > > Forum Pentax SLR Talk > > Subject K10D Auto White Balance Pre Set Adjustment for RAW > > Posted by Dave istDS > > Date/Time 2:57:17 PM, Sunday, September 09, 2007 (GMT) > > I use Lightroom to process my K10D RAW images and with the camera > > set to AWB, that I use most of the time, I have to shift the LR > > white balance control about 300 degrees towards yellow to get a > > better result. I have been trying to find a way to put this offset > > into LR without adjusting the Camera Claibration as I have this > > set.I knew that there was a way to fine tune the AWB setting on the > > camera and thought that this was only when shooting JPG's but I > > have just tried it and it also works for RAW. The handbook page 124 > > gives details but does not mention RAW. I know it is not changing > > the RAW data in anyway and is just reporting a different colour > > temperature and I guess it is setting an offset to the cameras WB > > measuring circuit. It stays set even when switched off and reports > > the offset on the top and rear displays. What more could you ask for! > > > > Is it only me that did not know about this great feature? > > > > Dave. > > I'm going to give it a try and see what it does. Has anyone else used > it? No, but the Nikons have a similar set up for the WB in their cameras, a -+ 1 0 through 3. I do notice that when i open a RAW file in PS that the colour temp it is showing me say set in sun, is in the 8000 range, when sunny is around 5200 oe so. Just keep wondering why.?? Dave > > Godfrey > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
K10D - auto white balance default adjustment...
Here's a feature I hadn't seen, posted by someone on DPReview: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=24752248 > Forum Pentax SLR Talk > Subject K10D Auto White Balance Pre Set Adjustment for RAW > Posted by Dave istDS > Date/Time 2:57:17 PM, Sunday, September 09, 2007 (GMT) > I use Lightroom to process my K10D RAW images and with the camera > set to AWB, that I use most of the time, I have to shift the LR > white balance control about 300 degrees towards yellow to get a > better result. I have been trying to find a way to put this offset > into LR without adjusting the Camera Claibration as I have this > set.I knew that there was a way to fine tune the AWB setting on the > camera and thought that this was only when shooting JPG’s but I > have just tried it and it also works for RAW. The handbook page 124 > gives details but does not mention RAW. I know it is not changing > the RAW data in anyway and is just reporting a different colour > temperature and I guess it is setting an offset to the cameras WB > measuring circuit. It stays set even when switched off and reports > the offset on the top and rear displays. What more could you ask for! > > Is it only me that did not know about this great feature? > > Dave. I'm going to give it a try and see what it does. Has anyone else used it? Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
