Re: K10D Repair Estimate

2008-05-14 Thread David J Brooks
Stupid question, but are the DA lenses the USM ones or the newer ones
with the * like the 50-135 35 etc.

Dave

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Paul Stenquist
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No. I told Pentax repari that  the lenses are fine. They work great
  with my K20D at +2 adjustment. Superb.
   From what I've gathered, I believe some early K10Ds have problems
  with USM lenses. I'm not sure I should have had to pay for this
  repair, but the camera is off warranty.
  Paul


 On May 13, 2008, at 11:55 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:
   Paul wrote:
  
   I received a repair estimate from Pentax Colorado for my K10D. I had
   told them that it backfocused severely with two DA* lenses, both of
   which work fine with my K20D.
  
   Paul, I assume you must send in the lenses as well?
  
   Maybe Pentax is just practicing backward incompatibility for their
   eventual merger with Microsoft.
  
   Joe
  
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RE: K10D Repair Estimate

2008-05-14 Thread Antti-Pekka Virjonen
 Stupid question, but are the DA lenses the USM ones or the 
 newer ones with the * like the 50-135 35 etc.
 
 Dave

The DA* lenses *are* the SDM (=USM) ones. The older DA lenses do not
have AF motors.

Antti-Pekka


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Re: K10D Repair Estimate

2008-05-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
The DA* lenses have USM autofocus. The K10D was released before any  
of those lenses were ready for market, and I think some early cameras  
were incorrectly set up for it. But I'm just guessing based on  
reports from other forums and my experience with my camera.
Paul
On May 14, 2008, at 6:52 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
 Stupid question, but are the DA lenses the USM ones or the newer ones
 with the * like the 50-135 35 etc.

 Dave

 On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Paul Stenquist
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No. I told Pentax repari that  the lenses are fine. They work great
  with my K20D at +2 adjustment. Superb.
   From what I've gathered, I believe some early K10Ds have problems
  with USM lenses. I'm not sure I should have had to pay for this
  repair, but the camera is off warranty.
  Paul


 On May 13, 2008, at 11:55 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:
 Paul wrote:

 I received a repair estimate from Pentax Colorado for my K10D. I  
 had
 told them that it backfocused severely with two DA* lenses, both of
 which work fine with my K20D.

 Paul, I assume you must send in the lenses as well?

 Maybe Pentax is just practicing backward incompatibility for their
 eventual merger with Microsoft.

 Joe

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Re: K10D Repair Estimate

2008-05-14 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks Paul and Antti.

I thought as much, but thought i'd ask, you know me.:-)

As far as Pentax not getting back to me, it seems Maria is no longer
there, and thus did not return my calls or messages.
Her voice mail is still there though, but no a Lynn sits in that seat.
Terrible sympathetic to my problem and multi courier packages, but not
much help,

Pentax: just send it in and we'll look at it.
Me: I think its more or a mirror box problem, not an AF problem back
focusing, should i send in the DA 50 F2.8.Its been in twice so far.
Pentax: If you want, we have a lot of lenses here you know.
Me: I'm sure you do.

Dave

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Paul Stenquist
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The DA* lenses have USM autofocus. The K10D was released before any
 of those lenses were ready for market, and I think some early cameras
 were incorrectly set up for it. But I'm just guessing based on
 reports from other forums and my experience with my camera.
 Paul
 On May 14, 2008, at 6:52 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
 Stupid question, but are the DA lenses the USM ones or the newer ones
 with the * like the 50-135 35 etc.

 Dave

 On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Paul Stenquist
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No. I told Pentax repari that  the lenses are fine. They work great
  with my K20D at +2 adjustment. Superb.
   From what I've gathered, I believe some early K10Ds have problems
  with USM lenses. I'm not sure I should have had to pay for this
  repair, but the camera is off warranty.
  Paul


 On May 13, 2008, at 11:55 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:
 Paul wrote:

 I received a repair estimate from Pentax Colorado for my K10D. I
 had
 told them that it backfocused severely with two DA* lenses, both of
 which work fine with my K20D.

 Paul, I assume you must send in the lenses as well?

 Maybe Pentax is just practicing backward incompatibility for their
 eventual merger with Microsoft.

 Joe

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Re: K10D Repair Estimate

2008-05-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
I would send only the camera. You want it to be baseline accurate.  
The lens is just a distraction.
Paul
On May 14, 2008, at 11:40 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
 Thanks Paul and Antti.

 I thought as much, but thought i'd ask, you know me.:-)

 As far as Pentax not getting back to me, it seems Maria is no longer
 there, and thus did not return my calls or messages.
 Her voice mail is still there though, but no a Lynn sits in that seat.
 Terrible sympathetic to my problem and multi courier packages, but not
 much help,

 Pentax: just send it in and we'll look at it.
 Me: I think its more or a mirror box problem, not an AF problem back
 focusing, should i send in the DA 50 F2.8.Its been in twice so far.
 Pentax: If you want, we have a lot of lenses here you know.
 Me: I'm sure you do.

 Dave

 On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Paul Stenquist
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The DA* lenses have USM autofocus. The K10D was released before any
 of those lenses were ready for market, and I think some early cameras
 were incorrectly set up for it. But I'm just guessing based on
 reports from other forums and my experience with my camera.
 Paul
 On May 14, 2008, at 6:52 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
 Stupid question, but are the DA lenses the USM ones or the newer  
 ones
 with the * like the 50-135 35 etc.

 Dave

 On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Paul Stenquist
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No. I told Pentax repari that  the lenses are fine. They work great
  with my K20D at +2 adjustment. Superb.
   From what I've gathered, I believe some early K10Ds have problems
  with USM lenses. I'm not sure I should have had to pay for this
  repair, but the camera is off warranty.
  Paul


 On May 13, 2008, at 11:55 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:
 Paul wrote:

 I received a repair estimate from Pentax Colorado for my K10D. I
 had
 told them that it backfocused severely with two DA* lenses,  
 both of
 which work fine with my K20D.

 Paul, I assume you must send in the lenses as well?

 Maybe Pentax is just practicing backward incompatibility for their
 eventual merger with Microsoft.

 Joe

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Re: K10D Repair Estimate

2008-05-14 Thread David J Brooks
I get distracted , just a minute dear, i'm on my, easily BTW.

:-)

I'm having another look at the istD and DA 50 shots. I forget what my
conclusion was. I'v done this to many times.:-0

Dave

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Paul Stenquist
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I would send only the camera. You want it to be baseline accurate.
 The lens is just a distraction.
 Paul
 On May 14, 2008, at 11:40 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
 Thanks Paul and Antti.

 I thought as much, but thought i'd ask, you know me.:-)

 As far as Pentax not getting back to me, it seems Maria is no longer
 there, and thus did not return my calls or messages.
 Her voice mail is still there though, but no a Lynn sits in that seat.
 Terrible sympathetic to my problem and multi courier packages, but not
 much help,

 Pentax: just send it in and we'll look at it.
 Me: I think its more or a mirror box problem, not an AF problem back
 focusing, should i send in the DA 50 F2.8.Its been in twice so far.
 Pentax: If you want, we have a lot of lenses here you know.
 Me: I'm sure you do.

 Dave

 On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Paul Stenquist
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The DA* lenses have USM autofocus. The K10D was released before any
 of those lenses were ready for market, and I think some early cameras
 were incorrectly set up for it. But I'm just guessing based on
 reports from other forums and my experience with my camera.
 Paul
 On May 14, 2008, at 6:52 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
 Stupid question, but are the DA lenses the USM ones or the newer
 ones
 with the * like the 50-135 35 etc.

 Dave

 On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Paul Stenquist
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No. I told Pentax repari that  the lenses are fine. They work great
  with my K20D at +2 adjustment. Superb.
   From what I've gathered, I believe some early K10Ds have problems
  with USM lenses. I'm not sure I should have had to pay for this
  repair, but the camera is off warranty.
  Paul


 On May 13, 2008, at 11:55 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:
 Paul wrote:

 I received a repair estimate from Pentax Colorado for my K10D. I
 had
 told them that it backfocused severely with two DA* lenses,
 both of
 which work fine with my K20D.

 Paul, I assume you must send in the lenses as well?

 Maybe Pentax is just practicing backward incompatibility for their
 eventual merger with Microsoft.

 Joe

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Re: K10D Repair Estimate

2008-05-13 Thread David J Brooks
My 2 year warranty runs out in Dec, so i'm hoping my snag gets fixed
before then.:-)

But yes, ouch thats a bit.

Luckely all of the D2H problems were under warranty, but if they were
not, it would have cost around $1600 in total for the fixes.

Dave

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 6:39 AM, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Stiff, indeed.
  2 years warranty in Europe has something good.

  This could act as a wrning for those europeans wanting to buy cheaper
  in the US. Pentax will honor the one year waranty AFAIK, but one year
  only of course.

  Hope your camera will be in prestine shape, Paul.
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Re: K10D Repair Estimate

2008-05-13 Thread Thibouille
Stiff, indeed.
2 years warranty in Europe has something good.

This could act as a wrning for those europeans wanting to buy cheaper
in the US. Pentax will honor the one year waranty AFAIK, but one year
only of course.

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Re: K10D Repair Estimate

2008-05-13 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: David J Brooks
Subject: Re: K10D Repair Estimate


 My 2 year warranty runs out in Dec, so i'm hoping my snag gets fixed
 before then.:-)


I don't know how it works elsewhere, but my understanding under Canadian 
consumer law is that an 
unresolved warranty issue that goes out of the warranty time limit still must 
be dealt with 
under warranty.

William Robb 


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Re: K10D Repair Estimate

2008-05-13 Thread David J Brooks
Not the case with my 1987 Chevy 4x4, i'm afraid.:-)

But.

I hope this does not take the rest of the year. I would like to try
and use the K10D and 60-250, when it arrives for my horse shows.



Dave

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  - Original Message -
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  Subject: Re: K10D Repair Estimate


   My 2 year warranty runs out in Dec, so i'm hoping my snag gets fixed
   before then.:-)
  

  I don't know how it works elsewhere, but my understanding under Canadian 
 consumer law is that an
  unresolved warranty issue that goes out of the warranty time limit still 
 must be dealt with
  under warranty.

  William Robb


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Re: K10D Repair Estimate

2008-05-13 Thread Joseph Tainter
Paul wrote:

I received a repair estimate from Pentax Colorado for my K10D. I had
told them that it backfocused severely with two DA* lenses, both of
which work fine with my K20D.

Paul, I assume you must send in the lenses as well?

Maybe Pentax is just practicing backward incompatibility for their 
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Re: K10D Repair Estimate

2008-05-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
No. I told Pentax repari that  the lenses are fine. They work great  
with my K20D at +2 adjustment. Superb.
 From what I've gathered, I believe some early K10Ds have problems  
with USM lenses. I'm not sure I should have had to pay for this  
repair, but the camera is off warranty.
Paul
On May 13, 2008, at 11:55 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:
 Paul wrote:

 I received a repair estimate from Pentax Colorado for my K10D. I had
 told them that it backfocused severely with two DA* lenses, both of
 which work fine with my K20D.

 Paul, I assume you must send in the lenses as well?

 Maybe Pentax is just practicing backward incompatibility for their
 eventual merger with Microsoft.

 Joe

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Re: K10D Repair Estimate

2008-05-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
At the estimate you stated, they're charging you for 1.5 to 2 hours  
labor at around [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's not exorbitant, the local repair  
shop charges [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a two hour minimum ... If he didn't, he  
couldn't stay in business.

G

On May 13, 2008, at 9:45 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 No. I told Pentax repari that  the lenses are fine. They work great
 with my K20D at +2 adjustment. Superb.
  From what I've gathered, I believe some early K10Ds have problems
 with USM lenses. I'm not sure I should have had to pay for this
 repair, but the camera is off warranty.
 Paul
 On May 13, 2008, at 11:55 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:
 Paul wrote:

 I received a repair estimate from Pentax Colorado for my K10D. I had
 told them that it backfocused severely with two DA* lenses, both of
 which work fine with my K20D.

 Paul, I assume you must send in the lenses as well?

 Maybe Pentax is just practicing backward incompatibility for their
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K10D Repair Estimate

2008-05-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
I received a repair estimate from Pentax Colorado for my K10D. I had  
told them that it backfocused severely with two DA* lenses, both of  
which work fine with my K20D. I also mentioned that it seemed stuck  
in multi-image mode, even when I switched it to single image. The  
estimate for repair of this out of warranty camera is $284 --$150 of  
that for parts. The estimate lists the repairs as follows:

Repair or replacement of parts and assemblies as needed. Cleaning and  
calibration of all functions to ensure proper working order.

Replacement and/or adjustment of electronic autofocus circuit  
including focus sendor (sensor or sender?). Calibrate for proper  
operation.

I hope I get a perfect camera back. That's a pretty stiff repair bill.
Paul

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Re: K10D Repair Estimate

2008-05-12 Thread Jack Davis
OUCH!$!$!

Jack


--- On Mon, 5/12/08, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: K10D Repair Estimate
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, May 12, 2008, 2:35 PM
 I received a repair estimate from Pentax Colorado for my
 K10D. I had  
 told them that it backfocused severely with two DA* lenses,
 both of  
 which work fine with my K20D. I also mentioned that it
 seemed stuck  
 in multi-image mode, even when I switched it to single
 image. The  
 estimate for repair of this out of warranty camera is $284
 --$150 of  
 that for parts. The estimate lists the repairs as follows:
 
 Repair or replacement of parts and assemblies as needed.
 Cleaning and  
 calibration of all functions to ensure proper working
 order.
 
 Replacement and/or adjustment of electronic autofocus
 circuit  
 including focus sendor (sensor or sender?). Calibrate for
 proper  
 operation.
 
 I hope I get a perfect camera back. That's a pretty
 stiff repair bill.
 Paul
 
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