Re: K10D list penetration

2006-12-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
I don't think anyone is officially counting, but I'm guessing we're  
at about 50.
Paul
On Dec 1, 2006, at 6:47 PM, Ted Beilby wrote:

> If anyone is counting, add me to the list. I ordered mine on 11/23  
> and it
> arrived here on the 29th. Haven't had much time for it yet, but, I  
> am really
> happy with it so far.
>
> The size is much better for my hands than the D. Looking forward to  
> using
> it.
>
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RE: K10D list penetration

2006-12-01 Thread Ted Beilby
If anyone is counting, add me to the list. I ordered mine on 11/23 and it 
arrived here on the 29th. Haven't had much time for it yet, but, I am really 
happy with it so far.

The size is much better for my hands than the D. Looking forward to using 
it.

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Re: K10D list penetration

2006-12-01 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
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De: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>Jaume, consider this. Suppose you have a certain style of shooting
that does not change much over time. Suppose further that you have a
certain maximal size of print that you ever decide to produce. Now,
suppose that you have a camera (even digital one) that satisfies both
your shooting style and produces excellent prints of your maximal size
and of course all smaller sizes. Why then would you want to buy a new
camera?

Well, this reminds me at the PC example. My oncle worked during 13 years with a 
intel 286 prcessor PC. From 1986 to 1999. The PC was still working 
perfectly...but there was this Y2K issue. So he changed the computer for a 
Pentium in order to run almost exactly the same program.

But now it comes the comparision. A process that could take one or even several 
minutes in the 286, is now instantly completed in the Pentium. And with this 
one there is a MS Word, Excel...(instead of WordStar) and I can design and 
print for him some sort of paper formularies that he used to have printed 
outside.

So, going back to your example...I'll be fine until I compare to the newest 
offering. Not that the good pictures suddently become worst, it is just that I 
would have the feeling that they could be (even) better.

Regards,
Jaume
(BTW, the 1986 printer is still running...a Ritemann, but now we are having 
serious trouble in order to find cartridges...if someone knows a good online 
source for this kind of ols stuff...)







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Re: K10D list penetration

2006-12-01 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
- Mensaje original 
De: Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

(...)

>Horses for courses. And no, I won't buy your -Ds, it does not shoot 
film.

But it was a nice try, wasn't it?

>Kostas (with a serious Barcelona craving at the moment)

Let me know it it eventually 'materializes'. We have gargoyles and serrano ham 
hunting as first priority TO DOs this time.

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Re: K10D list penetration

2006-11-30 Thread Peter Lacus
Brendan,

> And, besides myself, is anyone else making the K10D
> their first DSLR?

I'd like to. But I prefer to grasp it first to see if it fits. I'm 
deciding between K10, K100 and istD line and it's not an easy choice:
K10 - good viewfinder, sensor cleaner, good build
K100 - size, SR, AA batteries
istD/Ds - good viewfinder, size, AA batteries, most aesthetically 
appealing :-)

Cheers,

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Re: K10D list penetration

2006-11-30 Thread Peter Lacus
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:

> I think (but should see the Digis face-to-face in order to make a 
> meaningful statement, as opposed to opening gambits) that the 
> functional elegance of the MZ-S is still unsurpassed. 

definitely. In fact I've picked up MZ-S just recently but I'm still 
amazed by its build quality and straightforward interface.

Cheers,

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Re: K10D list penetration

2006-11-30 Thread David Weiss
Dave,

If an official count is being done, add 1 for mine.

I just ordered it from b&h last Friday, received it yesterday.  3 days 
from UPS delivery.

First impression - much bigger than I am use to, but a fast and smooth 
machine.  I expect it to be used frequently, starting this weekend for 
Christmas card photos.  Many buttons to investigate.  Works well with 
"m" series lenses.  But I also use my other cameras for b&w, so there ya 
go.

Dave




Paul Stenquist wrote:
> One week after the K10D first showed up in the stores, it looks like  
> somewhere around 20 list members have purchased one. Perhaps double  
> that number would have one if they could get one. This has to at  
> least double the penetration of any other Pentax camera that has been  
> released in the seven years I've been around here. Very interesting.  
> I'm eager to see where it goes. However, I know dealers are saying  
> they just can't get enough cameras. That's bound to be a problem for  
> some time to come.
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Re: K10D list penetration

2006-11-30 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 30, 2006, at 11:06, Jaume Lahuerta wrote:

> I somehow agree, although for me there are 2 improvements in the  
> K10D that can make my Ds look 'obsolete':
>
> - SR
> - Focus speed, specially in low light.
>

These are the two prime features that make me want to upgrade.

I tell myself (as the money is difficult to come by) that those are  
not, in and of themselves, worth the $900.  And that's true.

But it sure would be cool!  Someday

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Re: K10D list penetration

2006-11-30 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, Jaume Lahuerta wrote:

> Why is it more appealing that the K10D?

First of all, I think the K10D (will be) responsible for millions of 
grins and gazillions (scientific term) of excellent pictures. It is a 
runaway success for a very good reason: it does what the people want.

> Size?, high ISO?
> or is one of that obscure Flash functions that you seem to like? ;-)

All of the above. To me.

I would miss the grip, but judging from the pictures of the K10D grip, 
it's too big and ugly.

I would miss SR, but I am not prepared to go K100D for that.

And I would really miss dust-shake, but there ya go.

I think (but should see the Digis face-to-face in order to make a 
meaningful statement, as opposed to opening gambits) that the 
functional elegance of the MZ-S is still unsurpassed. The K10D looks 
to me like the PZ-1p, too wide and in your face.

Horses for courses. And no, I won't buy your -Ds, it does not shoot 
film.

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Re: K10D list penetration

2006-11-30 Thread Boris Liberman
Well, I tend to agree with you. However for me both SR and AF are
secondary, though of course on the paper K10D made many steps forward
from *istD:

1. More pixels
2. Faster
3. Better AF
4. SR
5. Wider dynamic range (allegedly)
6. Weather proof
7. Dust removal in camera
8. Support for Pentax version of USM
9. Something else I probably forget

So of course K10D is more advanced. But so is MZ-5n compared to MX.
Yet like you said yourself, you can get excellent pictures from both
cameras.

Jaume, consider this. Suppose you have a certain style of shooting
that does not change much over time. Suppose further that you have a
certain maximal size of print that you ever decide to produce. Now,
suppose that you have a camera (even digital one) that satisfies both
your shooting style and produces excellent prints of your maximal size
and of course all smaller sizes. Why then would you want to buy a new
camera?

I still maintain that *istD (I am not really familiar with other
cameras of the same family) is perfectly suitable tool for hobbyist
such as myself.

I do admit that I am eyeing very seriously K10D 'cause if indeed it
provides significant improvement of DR - it will be a deciding factor
for me. And of course, if in due course Pentax will produce a firmware
upgrade that will yield 16 bit RAW files - I may want to upgrade. Here
is by the way some of the features I forgot to mention above - DNG
support and better JPG engine.

Cheers.

On 11/30/06, Jaume Lahuerta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I somehow agree, although for me there are 2 improvements in the K10D that 
> can make my Ds look 'obsolete':
>
> - SR
> - Focus speed, specially in low light.
>
> On the other hand, in some cases I can take almost the same picture with my 
> MX and with my MZ-5n despite its difference in production year. It is all 
> about film and lens. This is no longer true with digital... in any case I 
> would say.
>
> - Mensaje original 
> De: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Enviado: jueves, 30 de noviembre, 2006 17:33:53
> Asunto: Re: K10D list penetration
>
> Jaume, I think that camera becomes obsolete either when it breaks down
> or its performance deteriorates or if a new camera supersedes it in a
> dramatically significant fashion. For me - I am waiting to see if all
> this hype about 22 a/d and consequently enhanced dynamic range is
> indeed real. As such my *istD perfectly suits all my needs. Somehow I
> am sure that as long as your *istDS will be shooting straight - it
> will not expire.
>
> On 11/30/06, Jaume Lahuerta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Why is it more appealing that the K10D?
> >
> > Size?, high ISO?
> > or is one of that obscure Flash functions that you seem to like? ;-)
> >
> > Jaume
> > (who is trying to justify that his barely 1 year old Ds is already 
> > obsolete...or not)
> >
> > - Mensaje original 
> > De: Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> > Enviado: jueves, 30 de noviembre, 2006 17:01:24
> > Asunto: Re: K10D list penetration
> >
> > On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, Brendan MacRae wrote:
> >
> > > K10D. It seems as though Pentax has "gotten it right"
> > > in the DSLR arena for those not sold on the ist
> > > cameras. I believe the K10D, and it's brethren the
> > > K100 and K110, were the tipping point for Pentax in
> > > the minds of many a camera shopper. Let's hope its
> > > sales live up to its hype.
> >
> > While I too am chuffed that Pentax seems to have got it right, I would
> > not underestimate the value of the *ist digital cameras in this
> > transition. If I am honest, the Ds still is the most appealing of the
> > lot for me.
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Re: K10D List Penetration

2006-11-30 Thread Perry Pellechia
Steve.
My comments on size (and I assume others as well) is solely based on
comparison with the *ist D.  The D (and DS, DL etc) is a very small
camera compared to any (D)SLR, as opposed to the K10D being large.  I
do not think anyone will find the K10D too large.

Enjoy your new camera!

Perry.



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> Well I've been lurking here for a few weeks while
> waiting impatiently for my K10D to arive.  It did,
> right in the time-range that Amazon promised.  It's my
> first DSLR -- up to about twenty years ago I shot with
> a Nikon F and a Linhof 45s (the least expensive Linhof
> ever made, but still a Linhof).  Then I decided all my
> work was crap and sold everything except my negatives.
>  But looking back, what I really had started to hate
> was darkroom work.
>
> A couple of years ago the bug bit me again and I
> bought a Canon S60 P&S.  I have been researching and
> studying DSLRs ever since, and, to make a long story
> short, all previous cameras had something wrong with
> them--too expensive, too few pixels, not ergonomic
> enough, etc., etc.  But I was unable to resist the
> allure of the K10D.  I received it Teusday evening; so
> far, it's everything I expected, and more.
>
> With the comments I had read about the 'large size', I
> was surprised to find it smaller than the Nikon F,
> although I am going on memory here rather than direct
> comparison.  So, I think I need to go shoot something.
>
> Steve Farnham
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> >And, besides myself, is anyone else making the K10D
> >their first DSLR?
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Re: K10D list penetration

2006-11-30 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
I somehow agree, although for me there are 2 improvements in the K10D that can 
make my Ds look 'obsolete':

- SR
- Focus speed, specially in low light.

On the other hand, in some cases I can take almost the same picture with my MX 
and with my MZ-5n despite its difference in production year. It is all about 
film and lens. This is no longer true with digital... in any case I would say.

- Mensaje original 
De: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Enviado: jueves, 30 de noviembre, 2006 17:33:53
Asunto: Re: K10D list penetration

Jaume, I think that camera becomes obsolete either when it breaks down
or its performance deteriorates or if a new camera supersedes it in a
dramatically significant fashion. For me - I am waiting to see if all
this hype about 22 a/d and consequently enhanced dynamic range is
indeed real. As such my *istD perfectly suits all my needs. Somehow I
am sure that as long as your *istDS will be shooting straight - it
will not expire.

On 11/30/06, Jaume Lahuerta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why is it more appealing that the K10D?
>
> Size?, high ISO?
> or is one of that obscure Flash functions that you seem to like? ;-)
>
> Jaume
> (who is trying to justify that his barely 1 year old Ds is already 
> obsolete...or not)
>
> - Mensaje original 
> De: Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Enviado: jueves, 30 de noviembre, 2006 17:01:24
> Asunto: Re: K10D list penetration
>
> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, Brendan MacRae wrote:
>
> > K10D. It seems as though Pentax has "gotten it right"
> > in the DSLR arena for those not sold on the ist
> > cameras. I believe the K10D, and it's brethren the
> > K100 and K110, were the tipping point for Pentax in
> > the minds of many a camera shopper. Let's hope its
> > sales live up to its hype.
>
> While I too am chuffed that Pentax seems to have got it right, I would
> not underestimate the value of the *ist digital cameras in this
> transition. If I am honest, the Ds still is the most appealing of the
> lot for me.
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Re: K10D list penetration

2006-11-30 Thread Boris Liberman
Jaume, I think that camera becomes obsolete either when it breaks down
or its performance deteriorates or if a new camera supersedes it in a
dramatically significant fashion. For me - I am waiting to see if all
this hype about 22 a/d and consequently enhanced dynamic range is
indeed real. As such my *istD perfectly suits all my needs. Somehow I
am sure that as long as your *istDS will be shooting straight - it
will not expire.

On 11/30/06, Jaume Lahuerta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why is it more appealing that the K10D?
>
> Size?, high ISO?
> or is one of that obscure Flash functions that you seem to like? ;-)
>
> Jaume
> (who is trying to justify that his barely 1 year old Ds is already 
> obsolete...or not)
>
> - Mensaje original 
> De: Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Enviado: jueves, 30 de noviembre, 2006 17:01:24
> Asunto: Re: K10D list penetration
>
> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, Brendan MacRae wrote:
>
> > K10D. It seems as though Pentax has "gotten it right"
> > in the DSLR arena for those not sold on the ist
> > cameras. I believe the K10D, and it's brethren the
> > K100 and K110, were the tipping point for Pentax in
> > the minds of many a camera shopper. Let's hope its
> > sales live up to its hype.
>
> While I too am chuffed that Pentax seems to have got it right, I would
> not underestimate the value of the *ist digital cameras in this
> transition. If I am honest, the Ds still is the most appealing of the
> lot for me.
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Re: K10D list penetration

2006-11-30 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
Why is it more appealing that the K10D?

Size?, high ISO?
or is one of that obscure Flash functions that you seem to like? ;-)

Jaume
(who is trying to justify that his barely 1 year old Ds is already 
obsolete...or not)

- Mensaje original 
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Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Enviado: jueves, 30 de noviembre, 2006 17:01:24
Asunto: Re: K10D list penetration

On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, Brendan MacRae wrote:

> K10D. It seems as though Pentax has "gotten it right"
> in the DSLR arena for those not sold on the ist
> cameras. I believe the K10D, and it's brethren the
> K100 and K110, were the tipping point for Pentax in
> the minds of many a camera shopper. Let's hope its
> sales live up to its hype.

While I too am chuffed that Pentax seems to have got it right, I would 
not underestimate the value of the *ist digital cameras in this 
transition. If I am honest, the Ds still is the most appealing of the 
lot for me.

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Re: K10D list penetration

2006-11-30 Thread Brendan MacRae

--- Jostein Øksne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> FWIW, a salesperson at the Norwegian distributor
> commented that they
> haven't seen this much interest in a new Pentax
> model since the
> introduction of LX.
> 
> Jostein

Hum, I don't doubt that. It reminds me of the interest
in the full frame sensor MZ-D when the (non-working)
prototype was shown years ago. That's the last time I
was really interested in a Pentax DSLR before the
K10D. It seems as though Pentax has "gotten it right"
in the DSLR arena for those not sold on the ist
cameras. I believe the K10D, and it's brethren the
K100 and K110, were the tipping point for Pentax in
the minds of many a camera shopper. Let's hope its
sales live up to its hype.

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Re: K10D list penetration

2006-11-30 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, Brendan MacRae wrote:

> K10D. It seems as though Pentax has "gotten it right"
> in the DSLR arena for those not sold on the ist
> cameras. I believe the K10D, and it's brethren the
> K100 and K110, were the tipping point for Pentax in
> the minds of many a camera shopper. Let's hope its
> sales live up to its hype.

While I too am chuffed that Pentax seems to have got it right, I would 
not underestimate the value of the *ist digital cameras in this 
transition. If I am honest, the Ds still is the most appealing of the 
lot for me.

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Re: K10D list penetration

2006-11-30 Thread Jerome Reyes
Paul Stenquist wrote:
> I think a lot of folks are keeping them as backup.

I'll end up keeping my K100D as a backup. The ist-D is arguably the better
camera of the two in at least a few ways. However once I started using the
larger (and in my opinion more reliable) LCD on the back of the K100D, the
ist has had a hard time competing to get back in the line-up. In addition
to that, I apparently stink at hand holding just about any focal length,
so the K100D and its SR feature win hands down for that reason as well.

Jerome

>> But it has not translated into a huge ForSale
>> list yet with older
>> digital
>> and analog bodies?
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Re: K10D list penetration

2006-11-30 Thread Jostein Øksne
FWIW, a salesperson at the Norwegian distributor commented that they
haven't seen this much interest in a new Pentax model since the
introduction of LX.

Jostein

On 11/30/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One week after the K10D first showed up in the stores, it looks like
> somewhere around 20 list members have purchased one. Perhaps double
> that number would have one if they could get one. This has to at
> least double the penetration of any other Pentax camera that has been
> released in the seven years I've been around here. Very interesting.
> I'm eager to see where it goes. However, I know dealers are saying
> they just can't get enough cameras. That's bound to be a problem for
> some time to come.
> Paul
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Re: K10D list penetration

2006-11-30 Thread Paul Stenquist
I think a lot of folks are keeping them as backup. I had two *istD, but 
sold one several months ago. I wanted to beat the introduction, so I'd 
get a decent price. I got $672 for camera and grip on ebay.
Paul
On Nov 30, 2006, at 12:16 AM, Markus Maurer wrote:

> But it has not translated into a huge ForSale list yet with older 
> digital
> and analog bodies?
> greetings
> Markus
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>
>
> One week after the K10D first showed up in the stores, it looks like
> somewhere around 20 list members have purchased one. Perhaps double
> that number would have one if they could get one. This has to at
> least double the penetration of any other Pentax camera that has been
> released in the seven years I've been around here. Very interesting.
> I'm eager to see where it goes. However, I know dealers are saying
> they just can't get enough cameras. That's bound to be a problem for
> some time to come.
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K10D List Penetration

2006-11-30 Thread Steve Farnham
Well I've been lurking here for a few weeks while
waiting impatiently for my K10D to arive.  It did,
right in the time-range that Amazon promised.  It's my
first DSLR -- up to about twenty years ago I shot with
a Nikon F and a Linhof 45s (the least expensive Linhof
ever made, but still a Linhof).  Then I decided all my
work was crap and sold everything except my negatives.
 But looking back, what I really had started to hate
was darkroom work.

A couple of years ago the bug bit me again and I
bought a Canon S60 P&S.  I have been researching and
studying DSLRs ever since, and, to make a long story
short, all previous cameras had something wrong with
them--too expensive, too few pixels, not ergonomic
enough, etc., etc.  But I was unable to resist the
allure of the K10D.  I received it Teusday evening; so
far, it's everything I expected, and more.

With the comments I had read about the 'large size', I
was surprised to find it smaller than the Nikon F,
although I am going on memory here rather than direct
comparison.  So, I think I need to go shoot something.

Steve Farnham



>And, besides myself, is anyone else making the K10D
>their first DSLR?
> 
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Re: K10D list penetration

2006-11-30 Thread Peter Loveday
> As I mentioned yesterday, the store where I got my K10D ordered 12 and 
> only
> got 1. The manager wasn't happy I can tell you.

Interesting... apparently the store here (in Adelaide) I got mine from 
ordered 50 and got 12.

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RE: K10D list penetration

2006-11-29 Thread Jens Bladt
Brendan wrote:
>And, besides myself, is anyone else making the K10D
>their first DSLR?

Hopefully, but not necessarily on this list :-)
Regards

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> One week after the K10D first showed up in the
> stores, it looks like
> somewhere around 20 list members have purchased one.

And, besides myself, is anyone else making the K10D
their first DSLR?

-Brendan (wondering now how he's lived without it!?)





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Re: K10D list penetration

2006-11-29 Thread Doug Franklin
Paul Stenquist wrote:
> One week after the K10D first showed up in the stores, it looks like  
> somewhere around 20 list members have purchased one. Perhaps double  
> that number would have one if they could get one.

I've "purchased" one, but it hasn't shipped yet.  The problems at Reed's
Cameras seem to have caused be to end up "back a ways in the list" at
Adorama.

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RE: K10D list penetration

2006-11-29 Thread Markus Maurer
But it has not translated into a huge ForSale list yet with older digital
and analog bodies?
greetings
Markus

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One week after the K10D first showed up in the stores, it looks like
somewhere around 20 list members have purchased one. Perhaps double
that number would have one if they could get one. This has to at
least double the penetration of any other Pentax camera that has been
released in the seven years I've been around here. Very interesting.
I'm eager to see where it goes. However, I know dealers are saying
they just can't get enough cameras. That's bound to be a problem for
some time to come.
Paul

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Re: K10D list penetration

2006-11-29 Thread Brendan MacRae
--- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> One week after the K10D first showed up in the
> stores, it looks like  
> somewhere around 20 list members have purchased one.

And, besides myself, is anyone else making the K10D
their first DSLR?

-Brendan (wondering now how he's lived without it!?)


 

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Re: K10D list penetration

2006-11-29 Thread David Savage
At 12:31 PM 30/11/2006, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>However, I know dealers are saying
>they just can't get enough cameras. That's bound to be a problem for
>some time to come.
>Paul

As I mentioned yesterday, the store where I got my K10D ordered 12 and only 
got 1. The manager wasn't happy I can tell you.

He also wasn't too optimistic about getting the grip in before Christmas.

Dave



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K10D list penetration

2006-11-29 Thread Paul Stenquist
One week after the K10D first showed up in the stores, it looks like  
somewhere around 20 list members have purchased one. Perhaps double  
that number would have one if they could get one. This has to at  
least double the penetration of any other Pentax camera that has been  
released in the seven years I've been around here. Very interesting.  
I'm eager to see where it goes. However, I know dealers are saying  
they just can't get enough cameras. That's bound to be a problem for  
some time to come.
Paul

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