Re: LR4 docs?
On Apr 25, 2012, at 9:14 AM, John Sessoms wrote: > The upgrade policy they announced for CS6 that they were forced to rescind > *WILL* go into effect with CS7. > > CS6 you can upgrade from CS4 or CS5 (and for a higher price CS3). But CS7 > will only be upgradable from CS6, otherwise you have to pay full price again. > And I think CS6 is only upgradable from CS3/4 through December of this year. Oh bloody hell, I didn't know about that. I only recently upgraded to CS5. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: LR4 docs?
The upgrade policy they announced for CS6 that they were forced to rescind *WILL* go into effect with CS7. CS6 you can upgrade from CS4 or CS5 (and for a higher price CS3). But CS7 will only be upgradable from CS6, otherwise you have to pay full price again. And I think CS6 is only upgradable from CS3/4 through December of this year. Unless things change drastically, CS6 is probably going to be my last rodeo anyway. From: Godfrey DiGiorgi I've used Photoshop CS5 so little I see no point to upgrading yet again to CS6. It would be a waste of money and disk space for me. G On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 8:49 AM, steve harley wrote: on 2012-04-24 2:04 David Mann wrote On Apr 24, 2012, at 2:54 AM, John Sessoms wrote: I think Photoshop CS6 launches today. Yes it did. ?If I had money I'd think about upgrading. ?I hear that phrase a lot around here so I may as well join in. if you have a new enough license of any CS product, you can subscribe to CS6 (the whole suite) for $30/month for the first year; for those of us using more than one CS product (i use InDesign, Photoshop & Acrobat Pro), this can be a better deal than the straight upgrades the educational pricing is another alternative -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: LR4 docs?
You have a Leica M9? [I'm JEALOU$] On Apr 24, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > I use Lightroom almost exclusively. For borders and other such > adornments, I have lately been using Flare and Snapseed rather than > turning them myself in Photoshop. > > Lightroom 3 was included with the Leica M9. But I'd been using Lr for > years already at that point ... ! :-) > > G > > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote: >> Godfrey, >> >> What have you been using in place of CS5? Do you just go with the RAW file >> editor that comes with the camera? >> >> Jeffery >> >> >> On Apr 24, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >> >>> I've used Photoshop CS5 so little I see no point to upgrading yet >>> again to CS6. It would be a waste of money and disk space for me. >>> >>> G >>> >>> -- >>> Godfrey >>> godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > > -- > Godfrey > godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: LR4 docs?
I use Lightroom almost exclusively. For borders and other such adornments, I have lately been using Flare and Snapseed rather than turning them myself in Photoshop. Lightroom 3 was included with the Leica M9. But I'd been using Lr for years already at that point ... ! :-) G On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote: > Godfrey, > > What have you been using in place of CS5? Do you just go with the RAW file > editor that comes with the camera? > > Jeffery > > > On Apr 24, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > >> I've used Photoshop CS5 so little I see no point to upgrading yet >> again to CS6. It would be a waste of money and disk space for me. >> >> G >> >> -- >> Godfrey >> godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: LR4 docs?
Godfrey, What have you been using in place of CS5? Do you just go with the RAW file editor that comes with the camera? Jeffery On Apr 24, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > I've used Photoshop CS5 so little I see no point to upgrading yet > again to CS6. It would be a waste of money and disk space for me. > > G > > -- > Godfrey > godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: LR4 docs?
I've used Photoshop CS5 so little I see no point to upgrading yet again to CS6. It would be a waste of money and disk space for me. G On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 8:49 AM, steve harley wrote: > on 2012-04-24 2:04 David Mann wrote > >> On Apr 24, 2012, at 2:54 AM, John Sessoms wrote: >> >>> I think Photoshop CS6 launches today. >> >> >> Yes it did. If I had money I'd think about upgrading. I hear that phrase >> a lot around here so I may as well join in. > > > if you have a new enough license of any CS product, you can subscribe to CS6 > (the whole suite) for $30/month for the first year; for those of us using > more than one CS product (i use InDesign, Photoshop & Acrobat Pro), this can > be a better deal than the straight upgrades > > the educational pricing is another alternative > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: LR4 docs?
on 2012-04-24 2:04 David Mann wrote On Apr 24, 2012, at 2:54 AM, John Sessoms wrote: I think Photoshop CS6 launches today. Yes it did. If I had money I'd think about upgrading. I hear that phrase a lot around here so I may as well join in. if you have a new enough license of any CS product, you can subscribe to CS6 (the whole suite) for $30/month for the first year; for those of us using more than one CS product (i use InDesign, Photoshop & Acrobat Pro), this can be a better deal than the straight upgrades the educational pricing is another alternative -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: LR4 docs?
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 4:04 AM, David Mann wrote: > > On Apr 24, 2012, at 2:54 AM, John Sessoms wrote: > > > I think Photoshop CS6 launches today. > > Yes it did. If I had money I'd think about upgrading. I hear that phrase > a lot around here so I may as well join in. If I had the money, I'd buy CS6. And a 645D. And an Aston Martin. And also a Lear Jet. :) -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: LR4 docs?
On Apr 24, 2012, at 2:54 AM, John Sessoms wrote: > I think Photoshop CS6 launches today. Yes it did. If I had money I'd think about upgrading. I hear that phrase a lot around here so I may as well join in. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: LR4 docs?
What I find is that there is much in the videos that bears watching, even though it might not be the explicit subject of the video presentation and may seem at first glance to be simple stuff I would often skim over. With a complex, interactive application like Lightroom, how an experienced user approaches and uses the tools is often as or more important than the specific information regarding what control does what. This information is quite difficult to present in a textual representation... it's usually the harder part of what I'm looking for, rather than 'what does this feature do'. Yes, reading can be faster. I'm generally not in a race to learn what I need to know at the fastest possible speed. I'd rather understand how to use the tools, then what they do and how they work becomes readily apparent through use and experimentation. So I spend a few minutes watching a video, then spend more time exercising what I learned and practicing what the tools do. Seems to work well for me. YMMV G On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > Thanks Godfrey, it looks like there is some helpful information there. > > Unfortunately I find watching just about any tutorial video painful. Blame > it on ADD, but they always take forever on points that are obvious, and gloss > over the things I need to pay attention to. Plus, I read so much faster than > people talk. It takes 10 minutes to watch something that I could read in > two, and much of that is stuff I'd likely want to skip, or skim, anyways. > On Apr 23, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > >> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 5:14 AM, Larry Colen wrote: >>> The switch from LR3 to LR4 looks like it won't be quite as trivial as I >>> might hope. >>> What recommendations do people have for *written* documentation on coming >>> up to speed on LR4? >>> >>> Is there one book that is particularly outstanding? A "must read" webpage? >> >> Books for LR4 are still "on the way" but Julianne Kost's tutorial >> videos do a great job of illuminating regards the differences in >> Develop module and explaining the new features. >> >> http://www.jkost.com/lightroom.html >> >> I've owned several books on Lightroom and only ever looked at them a >> little now and then. I find tutorial videos and short help articles >> much more useful. >> -- >> Godfrey >> godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: LR4 docs?
Thanks Godfrey, it looks like there is some helpful information there. Unfortunately I find watching just about any tutorial video painful. Blame it on ADD, but they always take forever on points that are obvious, and gloss over the things I need to pay attention to. Plus, I read so much faster than people talk. It takes 10 minutes to watch something that I could read in two, and much of that is stuff I'd likely want to skip, or skim, anyways. On Apr 23, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 5:14 AM, Larry Colen wrote: >> The switch from LR3 to LR4 looks like it won't be quite as trivial as I >> might hope. >> What recommendations do people have for *written* documentation on coming up >> to speed on LR4? >> >> Is there one book that is particularly outstanding? A "must read" webpage? > > Books for LR4 are still "on the way" but Julianne Kost's tutorial > videos do a great job of illuminating regards the differences in > Develop module and explaining the new features. > > http://www.jkost.com/lightroom.html > > I've owned several books on Lightroom and only ever looked at them a > little now and then. I find tutorial videos and short help articles > much more useful. > -- > Godfrey > godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: LR4 docs?
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 5:14 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > The switch from LR3 to LR4 looks like it won't be quite as trivial as I might > hope. > What recommendations do people have for *written* documentation on coming up > to speed on LR4? > > Is there one book that is particularly outstanding? A "must read" webpage? Books for LR4 are still "on the way" but Julianne Kost's tutorial videos do a great job of illuminating regards the differences in Develop module and explaining the new features. http://www.jkost.com/lightroom.html I've owned several books on Lightroom and only ever looked at them a little now and then. I find tutorial videos and short help articles much more useful. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: LR4 docs?
I think Photoshop CS6 launches today. From: Bruce Walker Haven't bought it yet, but likely Real Soon Now as I have a tricky shoot's worth of images to process (lots of near-clipping; very high-key). But I have bookmarked these two articles that themselves link to others ... http://eduardoangel.com/2012/03/10/upgrading-to-adobe-lightroom-4-in-7-simple-steps/ http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2012/03/what-happened-to-fill-light-and-recovery.html On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Larry Colen wrote: The switch from LR3 to LR4 looks like it won't be quite as trivial as I might hope. What recommendations do people have for *written* documentation on coming up to speed on LR4? Is there one book that is particularly outstanding? ?A "must read" webpage? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: LR4 docs?
Scott Kelby will almost certainly have a LR4 book coming out soon. From: Larry Colen The switch from LR3 to LR4 looks like it won't be quite as trivial as I might hope. What recommendations do people have for *written* documentation on coming up to speed on LR4? Is there one book that is particularly outstanding? A "must read" webpage? Larry -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: LR4 docs?
Haven't bought it yet, but likely Real Soon Now as I have a tricky shoot's worth of images to process (lots of near-clipping; very high-key). But I have bookmarked these two articles that themselves link to others ... http://eduardoangel.com/2012/03/10/upgrading-to-adobe-lightroom-4-in-7-simple-steps/ http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2012/03/what-happened-to-fill-light-and-recovery.html On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > > The switch from LR3 to LR4 looks like it won't be quite as trivial as I > might hope. > What recommendations do people have for *written* documentation on coming > up to speed on LR4? > > Is there one book that is particularly outstanding? A "must read" > webpage? > > Larry > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
LR4 docs?
The switch from LR3 to LR4 looks like it won't be quite as trivial as I might hope. What recommendations do people have for *written* documentation on coming up to speed on LR4? Is there one book that is particularly outstanding? A "must read" webpage? Larry -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
