Lesson learned...
Hi, Recently I've ordered a 55mm reverse adapter which arrived today. I wanted to give it a try so took the Zelektor, put the adapter on it's front and then put it on the Kr... Well... I mean I tried to put it on the Kr but the adapter didn't really want to turn to it's place. So decided to not force it to get in place and tried to take it off. But it got stuck so I had to use a pliers to remove it... After couple seconds and thousands of new gray hairs it got off and luckily the mount had no problems. But the lesson learned: always try the usability of an item (especially if it's a, made in China; b, costs less than a tenner; c, both) on my 2x teleconverter first... .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another K-5 lesson learned
How much faster would you like the signal to travel? :) On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Rick Womer wrote: > Is the delay because the signal merely travels at the speed of light? > > --- On Wed, 4/20/11, SV Hovland wrote: > >> This is a problem with radio >> triggers. They need some time to transfer the signal and >> create a small delay which is enough for the shutter to >> close a little bit. >> >> Stig Vidar Hovland >> >> -Original Message- >> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net >> [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] >> On Behalf Of Larry Colen >> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 11:01 AM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Another K-5 lesson learned >> >> I was doing some studio work today of some jewelry. I >> noticed a bit of darkening towards the bottom of the frame, >> figured that it was the lights, but sort of liked the >> effect. >> >> When I changed from shooting horizontally to shooting >> facing down, I noticed that the dark at the bottom of the >> frame stayed at the bottom, no matter which direction the >> camera was pointed. >> >> Lesson learned: with my radio triggers and studio strobes, >> even though my K-5 thinks it can sync at 1/160, it can only >> *almost* sync. >> >> Just a heads up of something to be careful of. >> >> -- >> Larry Colen l...@red4est.com >> sent from i4est >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link >> directly above and follow the directions. >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link >> directly above and follow the directions. >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another K-5 lesson learned
Check the batteries in your transmitter and receivers. This is a very common symptom when the batteries are running low. On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > I was doing some studio work today of some jewelry. I noticed a bit of > darkening towards the bottom of the frame, figured that it was the lights, > but sort of liked the effect. > > When I changed from shooting horizontally to shooting facing down, I noticed > that the dark at the bottom of the frame stayed at the bottom, no matter > which direction the camera was pointed. > > Lesson learned: with my radio triggers and studio strobes, even though my K-5 > thinks it can sync at 1/160, it can only *almost* sync. > > Just a heads up of something to be careful of. > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another K-5 lesson learned
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "John Sessoms" Subject: RE: Another K-5 lesson learned From: Rick Womer Is the delay because the signal merely travels at the speed of light? Or else it stopped off at Starbucks somewhere along the way. That's probably why its latte -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Another K-5 lesson learned
No, but it has to transmit something. This is usually some digital bits which ends up in a command. The transmission rate is limited to the frequency used, but also on which technology used in the transmitter. Stig Vidar Hovland -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rick Womer Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 4:59 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Another K-5 lesson learned Is the delay because the signal merely travels at the speed of light? --- On Wed, 4/20/11, SV Hovland wrote: > This is a problem with radio > triggers. They need some time to transfer the signal and create a > small delay which is enough for the shutter to close a little bit. > > Stig Vidar Hovland > > -Original Message- > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net > [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] > On Behalf Of Larry Colen > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 11:01 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Another K-5 lesson learned > > I was doing some studio work today of some jewelry. I noticed a bit of > darkening towards the bottom of the frame, figured that it was the > lights, but sort of liked the effect. > > When I changed from shooting horizontally to shooting facing down, I > noticed that the dark at the bottom of the frame stayed at the bottom, > no matter which direction the camera was pointed. > > Lesson learned: with my radio triggers and studio strobes, even though > my K-5 thinks it can sync at 1/160, it can only > *almost* sync. > > Just a heads up of something to be careful of. > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com > sent from i4est > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another K-5 lesson learned
On 20/04/2011 3:01 AM, Larry Colen wrote: I was doing some studio work today of some jewelry. I noticed a bit of darkening towards the bottom of the frame, figured that it was the lights, but sort of liked the effect. When I changed from shooting horizontally to shooting facing down, I noticed that the dark at the bottom of the frame stayed at the bottom, no matter which direction the camera was pointed. Lesson learned: with my radio triggers and studio strobes, even though my K-5 thinks it can sync at 1/160, it can only *almost* sync. Just a heads up of something to be careful of. What triggers? I use Pocket Lizards and have no problems at all with the K5 syncing properly. I'm thinking that one of the drawbacks of a camera capable of 7 fps is that slow radio triggers are going to have problems. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another K-5 lesson learned
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 4:59 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > From: Rick Womer > >> Is the delay because the signal merely travels at the speed of light? > > Or else it stopped off at Starbucks somewhere along the way. Its the menu reading that takes the time/ Dave > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Another K-5 lesson learned
From: Rick Womer Is the delay because the signal merely travels at the speed of light? Or else it stopped off at Starbucks somewhere along the way. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Another K-5 lesson learned
Is the delay because the signal merely travels at the speed of light? --- On Wed, 4/20/11, SV Hovland wrote: > This is a problem with radio > triggers. They need some time to transfer the signal and > create a small delay which is enough for the shutter to > close a little bit. > > Stig Vidar Hovland > > -Original Message- > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net > [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] > On Behalf Of Larry Colen > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 11:01 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Another K-5 lesson learned > > I was doing some studio work today of some jewelry. I > noticed a bit of darkening towards the bottom of the frame, > figured that it was the lights, but sort of liked the > effect. > > When I changed from shooting horizontally to shooting > facing down, I noticed that the dark at the bottom of the > frame stayed at the bottom, no matter which direction the > camera was pointed. > > Lesson learned: with my radio triggers and studio strobes, > even though my K-5 thinks it can sync at 1/160, it can only > *almost* sync. > > Just a heads up of something to be careful of. > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com > sent from i4est > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Another K-5 lesson learned
This is a problem with radio triggers. They need some time to transfer the signal and create a small delay which is enough for the shutter to close a little bit. Stig Vidar Hovland -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 11:01 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Another K-5 lesson learned I was doing some studio work today of some jewelry. I noticed a bit of darkening towards the bottom of the frame, figured that it was the lights, but sort of liked the effect. When I changed from shooting horizontally to shooting facing down, I noticed that the dark at the bottom of the frame stayed at the bottom, no matter which direction the camera was pointed. Lesson learned: with my radio triggers and studio strobes, even though my K-5 thinks it can sync at 1/160, it can only *almost* sync. Just a heads up of something to be careful of. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Another K-5 lesson learned
I was doing some studio work today of some jewelry. I noticed a bit of darkening towards the bottom of the frame, figured that it was the lights, but sort of liked the effect. When I changed from shooting horizontally to shooting facing down, I noticed that the dark at the bottom of the frame stayed at the bottom, no matter which direction the camera was pointed. Lesson learned: with my radio triggers and studio strobes, even though my K-5 thinks it can sync at 1/160, it can only *almost* sync. Just a heads up of something to be careful of. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another lesson learned
2010/9/29 Matthew Hunt : > >> When my 20 came back, the image count had increased by 5,000+. > > I would imagine that anyone who takes their sports car to the corner > mechanic can relate. you mean someone was drooling over those 3 fps and took it for a spin??? come on... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another lesson learned
2010/9/29 Larry Colen : > >> Service always does a full reset to factory defaults. Same with Pentax >> Germany then or März now. Check all your other settings, too! > > Interestingly, they didn't change the file naming. Odd. That is always the first thing I change back. BOth re-sync enumeration with shutter count and change folder nameback from 100PENTX to date based. Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another lesson learned
On Sep 28, 2010, at 5:54 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote: > On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > >> When my 20 came back, the image count had increased by 5,000+. > > I would imagine that anyone who takes their sports car to the corner > mechanic can relate. I suspect that it was more a case that they just stuck an SD card in to test it, and that it had a file left over from the previous test. I wish that there was a configuration option that the file number was just the last 6 digits of the shutter count. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another lesson learned
A camera "spinner?" ;) Jack --- On Tue, 9/28/10, Matthew Hunt wrote: > From: Matthew Hunt > Subject: Re: Another lesson learned > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Tuesday, September 28, 2010, 5:54 PM > On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Jack > Davis > wrote: > > > When my 20 came back, the image count had increased by > 5,000+. > > I would imagine that anyone who takes their sports car to > the corner > mechanic can relate. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another lesson learned
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > When my 20 came back, the image count had increased by 5,000+. I would imagine that anyone who takes their sports car to the corner mechanic can relate. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another lesson learned
When my 20 came back, the image count had increased by 5,000+. I returned the count to what it had previously shown. Jack --- On Tue, 9/28/10, Larry Colen wrote: > From: Larry Colen > Subject: Another lesson learned > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Tuesday, September 28, 2010, 2:56 PM > Check the settings on your camera > when it comes back from repair. > > It seems that CRIS had changed the settings on the K20 to > record in JPEG rather than PEF. > > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com > sent from i4est > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another lesson learned
On Sep 28, 2010, at 5:09 PM, eckinator wrote: > Service always does a full reset to factory defaults. Same with Pentax > Germany then or März now. Check all your other settings, too! Interestingly, they didn't change the file naming. > Ecke > > 2010/9/28 Larry Colen : >> Check the settings on your camera when it comes back from repair. >> >> It seems that CRIS had changed the settings on the K20 to record in JPEG >> rather than PEF. >> >> >> -- >> Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another lesson learned
Service always does a full reset to factory defaults. Same with Pentax Germany then or März now. Check all your other settings, too! Ecke 2010/9/28 Larry Colen : > Check the settings on your camera when it comes back from repair. > > It seems that CRIS had changed the settings on the K20 to record in JPEG > rather than PEF. > > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Another lesson learned
Check the settings on your camera when it comes back from repair. It seems that CRIS had changed the settings on the K20 to record in JPEG rather than PEF. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lesson learned: push the ISO harder
On 4/4/2010 1:23 PM, mike wilson wrote:
John Sessoms wrote:
From: ann sanfedele
Larry Colen wrote:
>
> On Apr 4, 2010, at 7:00 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
>
>> Back in the good old days of film, I did quite a few shots of
people >> talking at podiums, hand held, available light, using
good ol' Tri-X >> at 400 using a Spotmatic and 50mm lens. You
burn a lot of film >> trying to be unobtrusive for lots of
failures. If your success rate >> is 1 in 10 or so you're doing
better than average. 1 Shot in 30 is >> more like it, and even
then you'll probably have to relax your >> standards a bit.
>
>
> If my standards were any more relaxed, they'd slip into a coma.
MARK!
ann
P.S. shooting people at a podium is tedium
Especially as they tend to duck down and try to hide if you miss the
first shot.
Large bore shotguns seldom completely miss.
It can have its compensations. NSFW.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VewbAGR1dow
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Re: Lesson learned: push the ISO harder
Hello Larry, Where was your K-x? Seems that is the more usable grab camera at all times. Even with the K20D, you should have pushed to 800 ISO. -- Best regards, Bruce Sunday, April 4, 2010, 12:43:12 AM, you wrote: LC> Friday, a week ago, a childhood friend of mine died unexpectedly, and LC> his memorial service was today. I don't know if Rob (his older LC> brother and my best friend from the ages of 4 until about 19) just LC> guessed that my K-x was in my fanny pack, or if he just knew me well LC> enough to know that I'd have camera gear with me. Quite likely the LC> latter because I have no idea of how many hours that he and I spent in LC> my darkroom as teenagers. LC> Shortly after I got there, Rob asked if I had my camera, and I said LC> yes, when I asked if he wanted me to get photos, he said he did. I LC> went back to the car, grabbed my big bag with my K20, FA77 etc. I LC> ended up shooting, hand held, ISO 200 f/1.8 at 1/15 second. I figured LC> that people talking at a podium wouldn't be moving that much. In LC> retrospect, I should have pushed it to at least 400, because it turns LC> out that what they do move, is their face, which is the one thing that LC> really needs to be sharp. LC> I mostly used the K-x for video, and wish that I had pulled out the LC> monopod. I probably ought to have chimped my shots more, looking at LC> more than just the histogram. Despite my errors, I did manage to get LC> some usable shots, and I learned a little more about photographing LC> people speaking at a podium. LC> -- LC> Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lesson learned: push the ISO harder
John Sessoms wrote: From: ann sanfedele Larry Colen wrote: > > On Apr 4, 2010, at 7:00 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > >> Back in the good old days of film, I did quite a few shots of people >> talking at podiums, hand held, available light, using good ol' Tri-X >> at 400 using a Spotmatic and 50mm lens. You burn a lot of film >> trying to be unobtrusive for lots of failures. If your success rate >> is 1 in 10 or so you're doing better than average. 1 Shot in 30 is >> more like it, and even then you'll probably have to relax your >> standards a bit. > > > If my standards were any more relaxed, they'd slip into a coma. MARK! ann P.S. shooting people at a podium is tedium Especially as they tend to duck down and try to hide if you miss the first shot. It can have its compensations. NSFW. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VewbAGR1dow -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lesson learned: push the ISO harder
From: ann sanfedele Larry Colen wrote: > > On Apr 4, 2010, at 7:00 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > >> Back in the good old days of film, I did quite a few shots of people >> talking at podiums, hand held, available light, using good ol' Tri-X >> at 400 using a Spotmatic and 50mm lens. You burn a lot of film >> trying to be unobtrusive for lots of failures. If your success rate >> is 1 in 10 or so you're doing better than average. 1 Shot in 30 is >> more like it, and even then you'll probably have to relax your >> standards a bit. > > > If my standards were any more relaxed, they'd slip into a coma. MARK! ann P.S. shooting people at a podium is tedium Especially as they tend to duck down and try to hide if you miss the first shot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lesson learned: push the ISO harder
Larry Colen wrote: On Apr 4, 2010, at 7:00 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: Back in the good old days of film, I did quite a few shots of people talking at podiums, hand held, available light, using good ol' Tri-X at 400 using a Spotmatic and 50mm lens. You burn a lot of film trying to be unobtrusive for lots of failures. If your success rate is 1 in 10 or so you're doing better than average. 1 Shot in 30 is more like it, and even then you'll probably have to relax your standards a bit. If my standards were any more relaxed, they'd slip into a coma. MARK! ann P.S. shooting people at a podium is tedium -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lesson learned: push the ISO harder
Larry Colen wrote: [...] grabbed my big bag with my K20, FA77 etc. I ended up shooting, hand held, ISO 200 f/1.8 at 1/15 second. I figured that people talking at a podium wouldn't be moving that much. In retrospect, I should have pushed it to at least 400, because it turns out that what they do move, is their face, which is the one thing that really needs to be sharp. I agree with you, Larry, but you shouldn't consider ISO 400 to be "out there". Don't be afraid to go further ... I never thought I go there, but I've been shooting indoors at ISO 3200 and depending on a combination of proper exposure (ie never under), ACR noise reduction, and the Noiseware plugin for the really tough ones. And of course a B&W conversion if all else fails. :-) Really pushing the envelope: hand-held, aperture wide-open, manual focus, ISO 3200; but this gets me higher shutter speeds so hand-held isn't so hit and miss. Yeah, these shots are soft and with some motion blur, but it lets me concentrate on getting better at catching the moment without equipment distractions. I got this shot of the pretty bass player in a local Celtic rock band recently: http://decluttr.com/4479893071 K20D, DA*50-135 @ 135mm, f/2.8, ISO 3200, 1/45 sec, handheld. Not an award-winner, but it's a good step along the learning curve for me. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lesson learned: push the ISO harder
Larry Colen wrote: On Apr 4, 2010, at 7:00 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: Back in the good old days of film, I did quite a few shots of people talking at podiums, hand held, available light, using good ol' Tri-X at 400 using a Spotmatic and 50mm lens. You burn a lot of film trying to be unobtrusive for lots of failures. If your success rate is 1 in 10 or so you're doing better than average. 1 Shot in 30 is more like it, and even then you'll probably have to relax your standards a bit. If my standards were any more relaxed, they'd slip into a coma. Mark! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lesson learned: push the ISO harder
On Apr 4, 2010, at 7:00 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Back in the good old days of film, I did quite a few shots of people
talking at podiums, hand held, available light, using good ol' Tri-X
at 400 using a Spotmatic and 50mm lens. You burn a lot of film
trying to be unobtrusive for lots of failures. If your success rate
is 1 in 10 or so you're doing better than average. 1 Shot in 30 is
more like it, and even then you'll probably have to relax your
standards a bit.
If my standards were any more relaxed, they'd slip into a coma.
On 4/4/2010 3:43 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
Friday, a week ago, a childhood friend of mine died unexpectedly,
and his memorial service was today. I don't know if Rob (his older
brother and my best friend from the ages of 4 until about 19) just
guessed that my K-x was in my fanny pack, or if he just knew me
well enough to know that I'd have camera gear with me. Quite likely
the latter because I have no idea of how many hours that he and I
spent in my darkroom as teenagers.
Shortly after I got there, Rob asked if I had my camera, and I said
yes, when I asked if he wanted me to get photos, he said he did. I
went back to the car, grabbed my big bag with my K20, FA77 etc. I
ended up shooting, hand held, ISO 200 f/1.8 at 1/15 second. I
figured that people talking at a podium wouldn't be moving that
much. In retrospect, I should have pushed it to at least 400,
because it turns out that what they do move, is their face, which
is the one thing that really needs to be sharp.
I mostly used the K-x for video, and wish that I had pulled out the
monopod. I probably ought to have chimped my shots more, looking at
more than just the histogram. Despite my errors, I did manage to
get some usable shots, and I learned a little more about
photographing people speaking at a podium.
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Re: Lesson learned: push the ISO harder
Back in the good old days of film, I did quite a few shots of people
talking at podiums, hand held, available light, using good ol' Tri-X at
400 using a Spotmatic and 50mm lens. You burn a lot of film trying to
be unobtrusive for lots of failures. If your success rate is 1 in 10 or
so you're doing better than average. 1 Shot in 30 is more like it, and
even then you'll probably have to relax your standards a bit.
On 4/4/2010 3:43 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
Friday, a week ago, a childhood friend of mine died unexpectedly, and
his memorial service was today. I don't know if Rob (his older
brother and my best friend from the ages of 4 until about 19) just
guessed that my K-x was in my fanny pack, or if he just knew me well
enough to know that I'd have camera gear with me. Quite likely the
latter because I have no idea of how many hours that he and I spent in
my darkroom as teenagers.
Shortly after I got there, Rob asked if I had my camera, and I said
yes, when I asked if he wanted me to get photos, he said he did. I
went back to the car, grabbed my big bag with my K20, FA77 etc. I
ended up shooting, hand held, ISO 200 f/1.8 at 1/15 second. I figured
that people talking at a podium wouldn't be moving that much. In
retrospect, I should have pushed it to at least 400, because it turns
out that what they do move, is their face, which is the one thing that
really needs to be sharp.
I mostly used the K-x for video, and wish that I had pulled out the
monopod. I probably ought to have chimped my shots more, looking at
more than just the histogram. Despite my errors, I did manage to get
some usable shots, and I learned a little more about photographing
people speaking at a podium.
--
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Lesson learned: push the ISO harder
Friday, a week ago, a childhood friend of mine died unexpectedly, and his memorial service was today. I don't know if Rob (his older brother and my best friend from the ages of 4 until about 19) just guessed that my K-x was in my fanny pack, or if he just knew me well enough to know that I'd have camera gear with me. Quite likely the latter because I have no idea of how many hours that he and I spent in my darkroom as teenagers. Shortly after I got there, Rob asked if I had my camera, and I said yes, when I asked if he wanted me to get photos, he said he did. I went back to the car, grabbed my big bag with my K20, FA77 etc. I ended up shooting, hand held, ISO 200 f/1.8 at 1/15 second. I figured that people talking at a podium wouldn't be moving that much. In retrospect, I should have pushed it to at least 400, because it turns out that what they do move, is their face, which is the one thing that really needs to be sharp. I mostly used the K-x for video, and wish that I had pulled out the monopod. I probably ought to have chimped my shots more, looking at more than just the histogram. Despite my errors, I did manage to get some usable shots, and I learned a little more about photographing people speaking at a podium. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On and off topic and a lesson learned.
Hello mike, Quick check of the adapter to the Quantum QB2 battery - it has a red and clear wire. The red goes to the terminal closest to the locating pin. -- Best regards, Bruce Monday, November 12, 2007, 3:15:03 AM, you wrote: mw> On: mw> I dropped my AF400T and snapped the battery compartment off. mw> An easy fix but I am not sure which way round the terminals should mw> be. Could someone let me know if the locating pin is closer to mw> the positive or negative terminal? You will probably have to use mw> a multimeter - there don't appear to be any markings. mw> Off: mw> I was jollied/threatened/abused into photographing a wedding. mw> As expected, it was a nightmare day for various reasons. A small mw> gallery of dross here: mw> http://home.fotocommunity.com/mike.a.wilson mw> Password is ella - you will be directed back to the gallery mw> list and can then access the gallery. mw> Any suggestions (these are deliberately very lowres images) mw> on possibilities for improvements (I've already done quite a bit mw> of, er, touch-up work on the bride...) will be greatly appreciated. mw> A lesson learned: mw> Never give your "boot.ini" file another name. mw> - mw> Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email mw> Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
On and off topic and a lesson learned.
On: I dropped my AF400T and snapped the battery compartment off. An easy fix but I am not sure which way round the terminals should be. Could someone let me know if the locating pin is closer to the positive or negative terminal? You will probably have to use a multimeter - there don't appear to be any markings. Off: I was jollied/threatened/abused into photographing a wedding. As expected, it was a nightmare day for various reasons. A small gallery of dross here: http://home.fotocommunity.com/mike.a.wilson Password is ella - you will be directed back to the gallery list and can then access the gallery. Any suggestions (these are deliberately very lowres images) on possibilities for improvements (I've already done quite a bit of, er, touch-up work on the bride...) will be greatly appreciated. A lesson learned: Never give your "boot.ini" file another name. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
