Re: Medium format negative storage
For what it is worth, I am using BesFile from BH. They hold 3 strips of 4 horizontally. I have purchased oversized binders to hold them They are similar to the clearfile product I have at the moment. A bit more compact actually, mine have a strip at the top to bring them up to some standard size. and it works just fine. To me, the key here is storage. If I end up using 2 negative pages per roll of 120, I have effectively doubled my storage requirements. That is why I am very happy to have these slightly oversized pages. Thickness of storage is a good point which I hadn't considered. I've been looking for some nice sealed / crushproof binders to hold the larger pages in storage. I have some from plastic box binders from clearfile for my 35mm negatives which work out well.The boxes are too small for the larger pages. As for contact sheets, I can't make them at home anyways, so it is not of as much concern. I am not doing any darkroom right now, but I want to start working at it. Contact prints of BW seem to be easiest and lowest risk way to start it up. Developing my own negatives next, and then on to printing. So, it is a bit of a consideration. The flip-side of the perfect 6x7 format is that it just doesn't break down nice onto an 8x10, unlike the other 6x formats. However, the 6X7 negative makes it pretty easy to directly see them by just setting the page on a light table, even though they are negatives. You are right about that! It's been a long time since I've seen fresh MF negs. After 35mm for many years I am amazed by the 6x7 negs, they are a joy to behold in their own right. Thanks Bolo -- Josef T. Burger ps: How's the 300mm working out? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Medium format negative storage
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 01:25:14 -0500, Bolo wrote: I said: I avoid 220 like the plague. Why? Is there some problem with 220? People off-list have mentioned that 220 is especially effective with 6x4.5. It allows a 645 shooter to be as effective as a 35mm user with regards to film-on-tap. Especially if you have some inserts loaded and ready to go. Combined with modern 6x4.5 bodies it _seems_ a good combination. It. is, I'm just being crotchety. - I don't like using 3 print file pages to hold a roll - I only have one body, but I like to switch films.shooting 4 frames of 220 then scrapping the rest of the roll seems much more wasteful than with 220. - I don't have any 220 reels. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
67 300/4 (was Re[2]: Medium format negative storage)
Bolo, I just got back my first two rolls shot with the new 300, so I ought to report in. The fit and finish of the lens is great. It is very smooth to focus, much like the older K/M 35mm lenses. It is quite large, but still hand-holdable. I shot a mix of flash on monopod, flash handheld, handheld and on monopod. All shots were of people at the closer end of focus. For a few, I used extension tubes. My general impressions of the photos was great. The lens is way sharp and wide open the backgrounds blur very smoothly. Optically and physically I am very happy with the lens. As I suspected, close focus is the biggest problem. Using the tubes overcomes that at the cost of time to put on and remove the tube. I have decided to keep the lens and work with my speed of using the tube. I echo others who have given a very positive review of this lens. Outside of the minimum focus, it is a great lens. Bruce Dayton Wednesday, April 10, 2002, 12:15:24 AM, you wrote: For what it is worth, I am using BesFile from BH. They hold 3 strips of 4 horizontally. I have purchased oversized binders to hold them B They are similar to the clearfile product I have at the moment. A bit B more compact actually, mine have a strip at the top to bring them up B to some standard size. and it works just fine. To me, the key here is storage. If I end up using 2 negative pages per roll of 120, I have effectively doubled my storage requirements. That is why I am very happy to have these slightly oversized pages. B Thickness of storage is a good point which I hadn't considered. B I've been looking for some nice sealed / crushproof binders to hold B the larger pages in storage. I have some from plastic box binders B from clearfile for my 35mm negatives which work out well.The boxes B are too small for the larger pages. As for contact sheets, I can't make them at home anyways, so it is not of as much concern. B I am not doing any darkroom right now, but I want to start working B at it. Contact prints of BW seem to be easiest and lowest risk way B to start it up. Developing my own negatives next, and then on to B printing. So, it is a bit of a consideration. The flip-side of the B perfect 6x7 format is that it just doesn't break down nice onto an B 8x10, unlike the other 6x formats. However, the 6X7 negative makes it pretty easy to directly see them by just setting the page on a light table, even though they are negatives. B You are right about that! It's been a long time since I've seen B fresh MF negs. After 35mm for many years I am amazed by the 6x7 B negs, they are a joy to behold in their own right. B Thanks B Bolo -- Josef T. Burger B ps: How's the 300mm working out? B - B This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, B go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to B visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Medium format negative storage
On Tue, 09 Apr 2002 02:16:56 -0500, Bolo wrote: [ From the Medium Format Enlarging thread ] Bruce Dayton writes: I just purchased negative pages from BH that are specifically designed for 67. They are a little wider than 8.5 and will take three negs per pocket. This way I can get a whole roll in one page. I've been looking at 120 negative storage pages recently. This leads a question of ... what do other list members use for MF storage? In the same vein, how long a negative strip do people prefer for the various MF (6x4.5, 6x6, 6x7) formats? 120 from the 645n ends up with 16 frames that fit perfectly into a 4x4 Printfile page. 220 from the 645n ends up with 33 frames. I avoid 220 like the plague. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Medium format negative storage
The lab i use to do the 120 film from the Y-M places them in a plastic sheet with 4 strips per sleeve and 1 roll fits onto one pages and it has the 3 holes punched at the top for binder storage. Right now i store 120 and 35mm in file folders but plan to move to the binder,at least for the 120 Dave Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Medium format negative storage
Bolo, For what it is worth, I am using BesFile from BH. They hold 3 strips of 4 horizontally. I have purchased oversized binders to hold them and it works just fine. To me, the key here is storage. If I end up using 2 negative pages per roll of 120, I have effectively doubled my storage requirements. That is why I am very happy to have these slightly oversized pages. As for contact sheets, I can't make them at home anyways, so it is not of as much concern. However, the 6X7 negative makes it pretty easy to directly see them by just setting the page on a light table, even though they are negatives. Bruce Dayton Tuesday, April 09, 2002, 12:16:56 AM, you wrote: B [ From the Medium Format Enlarging thread ] B Bruce Dayton writes: I just purchased negative pages from BH that are specifically designed for 67. They are a little wider than 8.5 and will take three negs per pocket. This way I can get a whole roll in one page. B I've been looking at 120 negative storage pages recently. This leads B a question of ... what do other list members use for MF storage? B In the same vein, how long a negative strip do people prefer for the B various MF (6x4.5, 6x6, 6x7) formats? B So far i've had my 6x7 negatives cut in strips of 3, so I could B fit 10 on a page of the storage systems mentioned below. My old 6x6 B negatives were cut in strips of 2. However the 2x strips seems a bit B more manageable after holding a 3x 6x7 strip of negatives! B I was hoping to find a storage system which allow use as a contact B printing holder. Unfortunately it seems a lost cause to fit a 120 B roll formatted into 6x7 roll onto an 8x10 contact-printing sheet. B Doesn't seem a good match between 6x7 and contact printing; the best B seems to be the 4x2 == 8 per sheet system, and do 1.5 contact prints B per 120 roll. Any suggestions here would be interesting. B The things I've looked at so far are: B ClearFile has a page which holds 12 6x7 negatives in a horizontal B format. It is labeled as a transparency holder, I don't understand if B there is any differences. It is arranged in 4 horizontal 4 slots of B 3 negative strips. As you mention, the pages are a little wider than B 8.5 -- 10-1/2 x 11-1/2 They are quite a bit oversize.That's what I B am trying right now. I like them since I can get an entire 120 roll B on one page, and two pages will hold a 220 roll. They have another B sheet of the same size which has a opaque label area at the top. B I was looking for other products; PrintFile has a product which will B hold 12 in 4 strips of 3 negatives each as well. Horizontal again. B They also have a system which will hold hold 4x2 strips of 6x7 B negatives, allowing 1.5 storage pages per 120 roll, or 2.5 pages per B 220 roll. B Vue-All has some 120 products, but all I've seen so far are some which B hold 3 strips of 3 negative vertically. I don't have any info on B their products. B Bolo -- Josef T. Burger - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
