Re: My December photo project for fun and hopefully profit

2002-12-09 Thread Evan Hanson
Ann, I would love to get one of these for my office.  Be sure to let us know
when it's available.

Evan


From: "Ann Sanfedele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: My December photo project for fun and hopefully profit


> My mini-ad can be seen at :
> http://users.rcn.com/annsan/calendar4adonweb.jpg
>
> I need to enhance it -  but you'll get the idea. (want to show what one
> calendar page looks like)
>
>  I used MS Publisher for the calendar itself, alas,
> and learned a few things the hard way.  But it prints nicely.  But the
> damn file is 30 megs!
> I know I need to show what one page looks like with captions and
> date boxes - will do it soon.
>
> Does anyone have one of those old and inexpensive spiral binding
> punches?
> and the simple manual machine for putting the combs in the holes?
>
> ALso, if anyone knows about how many full-color 8 1/2 x 11" pages I can
> milk out of a hp 722c I'd love to know - I can't find it in the
> paperwork I have
> and the machine is, as you know, not new.
>
> THe HP everyday photo matte paper looks good.  I did the cover in the
> good glossy
> paper.
>
> I expect some of the photos on the little jpg file will look crappy on
> the aol browser.
>
> back to work.. any help will be appreciated -
> annsan
>
>
>
>




Re: My December photo project for fun and hopefully profit

2002-12-08 Thread Herb Chong
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>Hi Herb,

I use Epson's double-sided matte, too. Most recently with some pop-up 
birthday invitations. I'm not too crazy about the light weight of the 
double sided matte, though. Have you come across any similar papers in 
a heavier weight?

Dan Scott<

haven't gone looking. the double-sided matte is too heavy for making
booklets, which is what i got it originally for. i gave up and made 8.5x11
book instead. wanted a small folded booklet (half fold) to use for a
printed catalog of my pictures. none of the fine art papers i have come
across are coated on both sides. without that, inkjet prints just don't
work for high quality stuff.

Herb




Re: My December photo project for fun and hopefully profit

2002-12-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Ann said that David said:
> > > One of my dreams is to do a calendar, purely as an ego-trip.  Every year
> > > I think about it :)
>
> She creates the calendars in some inexpensive software app ('fraid I don't know
> which! but if you're curious I could ask her) and the photos are printed on the
> backs of the calendar pages, directly from Photoshop Elements -- in previous
> years, Photoshop, or, even earlier, PhotoDeluxe. We use the Epson Stylus Photo
> inkjet printers for these projects. We often choose to print the photos on
> Photo Inkjet Paper (Epson) which, you may know, has one "printable" side. We
> print the calendar part on the "non-printable" (off-white) side, and that works
> fine.

As I just got the 820 I wondered about this exactly! I had been doing the calendar
on just one side but I know people like larger boxes to write in and I could print
the picture side from photoshop avoiding the terribly large publisher file sizes.

> We like to laminate the front cover to add durability to the calendar,

ooops - ya can't laminate inkjet stuff  - what are you actually using?
I got my prototypes covered wtih acetate .

>
> because it has to support the weight of the binding and the pages for a year,
> hanging on the wall, and we generally have the laminating and the binding --
> sometimes spiral, sometimes "comb" binding -- done at Kinko's.

YEs I'm doing comb at Stables

> Again, this
> would get pricey if we were trying to recoup the expenses in sales, but they're
> not terribly expensive for us to give as Christmas
> presents.

My first calendar was for the purpose - but actually I am selling them for $11.50
and
have a few orders already.

I think, ahving done all the work on the image files, I may shift to the method you
are
using now that I know that is possible... It would actually change my front cover
and make it better.  I'm inspired -- now i have to set up the 820!

thanks for the input..

annsan





Re: My December photo project for fun and hopefully profit

2002-12-08 Thread ernreed2
Ann said that David said:
> > One of my dreams is to do a calendar, purely as an ego-trip.  Every year
> > I think about it :)

My mother thought about this every year for a couple of years -- for the past 
few years she's been doing it. (With my photographs. My mother freely admits 
she's no photographer.)
The first year she tried making a few for sale to friends and co-workers. She 
found out that she'd have to sell them for quite a bit more than the typical 
store-bought ones, in order to break even. So she gave that up and now she 
makes them as Christmas gifts for family and close friends. They like them 
(mostly, I believe, for the convenience of not having to look up all the 
birthdays and anniversaries of relatives for themselves) and her gift decision-
making is simplified from "what should I give" each brother, sister etc. 
to "what pictures do I want to use this year?"
I wonder if I should include the equipment details on the captions to encourage 
my relatives to buy Pentax cameras? Hmm.
Anyway.
She creates the calendars in some inexpensive software app ('fraid I don't know 
which! but if you're curious I could ask her) and the photos are printed on the 
backs of the calendar pages, directly from Photoshop Elements -- in previous 
years, Photoshop, or, even earlier, PhotoDeluxe. We use the Epson Stylus Photo 
inkjet printers for these projects. We often choose to print the photos on 
Photo Inkjet Paper (Epson) which, you may know, has one "printable" side. We 
print the calendar part on the "non-printable" (off-white) side, and that works 
fine. We like to laminate the front cover to add durability to the calendar, 
because it has to support the weight of the binding and the pages for a year, 
hanging on the wall, and we generally have the laminating and the binding -- 
sometimes spiral, sometimes "comb" binding -- done at Kinko's. Again, this 
would get pricey if we were trying to recoup the expenses in sales, but they're 
not terribly expensive for us to give as Christmas
presents.




Re: My December photo project for fun and hopefully profit

2002-12-08 Thread T Rittenhouse

Good for you!

Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto


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From: "Ann Sanfedele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: My December photo project for fun and hopefully profit


> annsan  (who deleted all emails with GUNS in the subject line)
> 




Re: My December photo project for fun and hopefully profit

2002-12-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Lon Williamson wrote:

> Ann, I took the time to look at your calander project and was not surprised at
> the quality of the shots (I liked them), but, as Bill says below, why assemble
> calendars yourself?  Lots of work, that is.
>
> Bill Sawyer wrote:
> >
> > Ann,  take it to OfficeMax, Kinko's or something similar. They'll do it for a 
>couple of dollars.

The punching and binding is being done at Staples... once I found that the original 
quote i got
included
their front and back covers, and I am providing those.

I've given myself quite a chore, but I really wanted to do it and am hopeful getting 
my images in
a kind of portfolio presentation could eventually lead to real sales.

All I'm hoping for from my home brew is all my money back that it took to make them and
perhaps a bit more...

I'd love nothing better than for someone to see the images and want them for a project.

I sent the URLS to a group of friends and associates in the Scrabble tourney world and
have a few orders...  also I made a little contest to see how many people could guess
or who knew where the pictures were taken...

2 points for exact location (well, not exact in OUR terms) and 1 for the state, giving 
the
hint to closer friends that they were, with one exception, places I had been to in the 
past
2 years, though the pictures were taken over 27 years.

You guys could play too.  The prize is, guess what? one calendar :)

But it isn't free - you have to win it.

annsan  (who deleted all emails with GUNS in the subject line)




Re: My December photo project for fun and hopefully profit

2002-12-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele
"David A. Mann" wrote:

> Pentxuser wrote:
>
> > Go after the niche market where it's not worth it for the big
> > companies.. But even if it's not lucrative, it's a heck of a lot of fun.
>

David says

> I would be inclined to agree with this.  Big companies only go for what
> will sell in large volume.  Otherwise its not worth the investment.
>
> This doesn't only apply to the content but also the presentation.  You
> might find a nice little market for a certain size or format.
>
> One of my dreams is to do a calendar, purely as an ego-trip.  Every year
> I think about it :)
>
> Cheers,
>
> - Dave

annsan replies:
I'm really doing the calendar on a small scale, guys -
But about 20 years ago I did one on funny Signs which ended up as a book -
almost just by chance.

I just felt like doing it - I have orders for a few already.  In the best case
scenario, someone in
publishing would see my work and want me to do some  or ask where they could
get one of the pictures or more for their calendar for next year, etc

My regret is having done this is MS publisher - it really chews up ram in a
hurry.
I have two other topics to make calendars from - one I have been thinking of
for a long
time that certainly has not been done and I surely have a market for, but I'm
a little
late for doing it this year. And of course, there are cats (sorry, Mike)
cats always do well.

The result of my first attempt was sic transit HP deskjet...  at least for
printing photos -
I won't throw t out quite yet.

I've bought an Epson 820 (just got a nice birthday present of cash from a dear
friend
who supports me in December :)  ) and, while I have  to go now and return it
because
the cartridge snap broke (!!) immediately... geez...

I'll be apt to pester some of you with lame questions once it is up and
running.

And running is what I need to do now... off to exchange the lemon for a peach,
I hope!

ann






Re: My December photo project for fun and hopefully profit

2002-12-06 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Bill Sawyer wrote: (re getting comb binding done)

> Ann,  take it to OfficeMax, Kinko's or something similar. They'll do it for a couple 
>of dollars.
>

annsan replies:
Actually, I found that the Staples price I was quoted at first was inflated 'cause the 
kid
that gave me the price had included the materials.  I had my own front and back cover..
Staples added a mylar(?) - um - clear plastic cover and the price was still only $1.40 
each.

Which is pretty good for the middle of NYC




RE: My December photo project for fun and hopefully profit

2002-12-06 Thread Bill Sawyer
Ann,  take it to OfficeMax, Kinko's or something similar. They'll do it for a couple 
of dollars.

> -Original Message-
> From: Ann Sanfedele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: December 05, 2002 2:49 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: My December photo project for fun and hopefully profit
> 
> 
> My mini-ad can be seen at :
> http://users.rcn.com/annsan/calendar4adonweb.jpg
> 
> I need to enhance it -  but you'll get the idea. (want to show what one
> calendar page looks like)
> 
>  I used MS Publisher for the calendar itself, alas,
> and learned a few things the hard way.  But it prints nicely.  But the
> damn file is 30 megs!
> I know I need to show what one page looks like with captions and
> date boxes - will do it soon.
> 
> Does anyone have one of those old and inexpensive spiral binding
> punches?
> and the simple manual machine for putting the combs in the holes?
> 
> ALso, if anyone knows about how many full-color 8 1/2 x 11" pages I can
> milk out of a hp 722c I'd love to know - I can't find it in the
> paperwork I have
> and the machine is, as you know, not new.
> 
> THe HP everyday photo matte paper looks good.  I did the cover in the
> good glossy
> paper.
> 
> I expect some of the photos on the little jpg file will look crappy on
> the aol browser.
> 
> back to work.. any help will be appreciated -
> annsan
> 
> 
> 
> 




Re: My December photo project for fun and hopefully profit

2002-12-06 Thread Anton Browne
Looks good, good luck.

Anton

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Re: My December photo project for fun and hopefully profit

2002-12-05 Thread Pentxuser

In a message dated 12/5/02 2:54:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< http://users.rcn.com/annsan/calendar4adonweb.jpg >>

Ann very nice shots. 
Good luck with your calendar. It's a very tough go. 
I am a member of a group of five photographers who pool our work and 
resources together to sell our photography through annual calendars and 
photographic cards. We have produced about 10-12 calendars that have been 
mildly successful.
We do a full calendar for a Botanical Gardens every year about 3-5000 copies 
each year, as well as our own calendar which is sold to a number of 
businesses in the area. These are all printed professionally by one of the 
members who is also a printer. 
Although we are very happy with our success, there is very little money to be 
made here. The trouble is, calendars can be purchased so cheaply at stores 
that it is so hard to compete with them. They print so many that their cost 
comes down to almost nothing. How do you compete with a beautiful calendar of 
top-name photographers that sells for $5-6?
The greatest success that we have had is to provide local images that you 
could not buy anywhere else. Go after the niche market where it's not worth 
it for the big companies..
But even if it's not lucrative, it's a heck of a lot of fun.

Vic 
http://hometown.aol.ca/Pentxuser/myhomepage/artgallery.html




My December photo project for fun and hopefully profit

2002-12-05 Thread Ann Sanfedele
My mini-ad can be seen at :
http://users.rcn.com/annsan/calendar4adonweb.jpg

I need to enhance it -  but you'll get the idea. (want to show what one
calendar page looks like)

 I used MS Publisher for the calendar itself, alas,
and learned a few things the hard way.  But it prints nicely.  But the
damn file is 30 megs!
I know I need to show what one page looks like with captions and
date boxes - will do it soon.

Does anyone have one of those old and inexpensive spiral binding
punches?
and the simple manual machine for putting the combs in the holes?

ALso, if anyone knows about how many full-color 8 1/2 x 11" pages I can
milk out of a hp 722c I'd love to know - I can't find it in the
paperwork I have
and the machine is, as you know, not new.

THe HP everyday photo matte paper looks good.  I did the cover in the
good glossy
paper.

I expect some of the photos on the little jpg file will look crappy on
the aol browser.

back to work.. any help will be appreciated -
annsan