Re: Need a good monitor! (see post end for cliffnotes)
In a message dated 5/3/2007 8:11:52 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I currently have a Nec Multisync FE950 CRT based around the old Diamondtron NF series of tube. It's a great monitor. Sharp as a tack with beautiful color rendition, still as bright and sharp as the day I got it 8 years ago. Realistic maximum res it can handle is 1360x1024 @ 85hz. 1600x1200 is sharp enough but at 75Hz it starts to hurt after a whole. snip There HAS to be a decent LCD display out there for not too much money. Or a good CRT still in production. What has the list used and what should be avoided? === I once had a Nec Multisync monitor that seemed to last forever. So when I finally broke down and got a LCD for my desktop (and I also got a new desktop) I got a Nec LCD. I like it a lot. But it wasn't cheap, it was in the $350-450 range. I can't recall really. Maybe a tad more. However, I was just ready to spend at that point. I think it has very faithful color rendition. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Need a good monitor! (see post end for cliffnotes)
I currently have a Nec Multisync FE950 CRT based around the old Diamondtron NF series of tube. It's a great monitor. Sharp as a tack with beautiful color rendition, still as bright and sharp as the day I got it 8 years ago. Realistic maximum res it can handle is 1360x1024 @ 85hz. 1600x1200 is sharp enough but at 75Hz it starts to hurt after a whole. I scored a used Diamondtron 2070SB, manufactured late 2003 for about $250. The seller misrepresented the monitor. While it's reasonably sharp all the way up to 1920x1440 @ 85hz (a truly awesome resolution to work in. I can't describe how great it is to have that much screen space) it suffers from bad color rendition (posterizing?) especially in skin tones, bad brightness (presumably because it's been abused) and ghosting/banding. Basically unusable for photo editing (but great for games) Long story short, I love my old FE950 but I know for a fact these CRTs don't last forever. The retards in the various companies are now peddling LCDs, which I have always detested. I fear now that I have no choice, as there are no high-end CRTs being made anymore. (I think there is a Philips model still in production, but no one online has ever posted a comment as to how good it is.) I know about different types of LCD panels... TN, IPS, MVA, PVA, etc but there is never any concrete data about color quality/blackness level, etc. I have tried photo editing on my laptop LCD, and it is horrific. Pics I delete because they look bad on the LCD look beautiful on the CRT. There HAS to be a decent LCD display out there for not too much money. Or a good CRT still in production. What has the list used and what should be avoided? **CLIFF NOTES** Want high-end CRT. Can't find any. Need an LCD with good color rendition. Thoughts? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Need a good monitor! (see post end for cliffnotes)
On 04/05/07, AlexG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I scored a used Diamondtron 2070SB, manufactured late 2003 for about $250. The seller misrepresented the monitor. While it's reasonably sharp all the way up to 1920x1440 @ 85hz (a truly awesome resolution to work in. I can't describe how great it is to have that much screen space) it suffers from bad color rendition (posterizing?) especially in skin tones, bad brightness (presumably because it's been abused) and ghosting/banding. Basically unusable for photo editing (but great for games) I have the 2070SB, it's a very good monitor, it calibrates superbly but really it's only usable to 1600x1200 due to gamma shifts (which is true of most aperture grille type monitors of this size). Install the Naviset software and you can then easily trim the monitor settings from the system desktop (assuming that you have a compatible card). I can provide my calibrated settings which won't be perfect for your particular monitor but should get you in the ball-park. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/PESO http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Need a good monitor! (see post end for cliffnotes)
Alex, Pardon the dumb question, but is your laptop LCD calibrated? Really calibrated, that is, with a device designed for that purpose? Lots of us are using LCD monitors happily. Calibration makes a world of difference. Rick --- AlexG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I currently have a Nec Multisync FE950 CRT based around the old Diamondtron NF series of tube. It's a great monitor. Sharp as a tack with beautiful color rendition, still as bright and sharp as the day I got it 8 years ago. Realistic maximum res it can handle is 1360x1024 @ 85hz. 1600x1200 is sharp enough but at 75Hz it starts to hurt after a whole. I scored a used Diamondtron 2070SB, manufactured late 2003 for about $250. The seller misrepresented the monitor. While it's reasonably sharp all the way up to 1920x1440 @ 85hz (a truly awesome resolution to work in. I can't describe how great it is to have that much screen space) it suffers from bad color rendition (posterizing?) especially in skin tones, bad brightness (presumably because it's been abused) and ghosting/banding. Basically unusable for photo editing (but great for games) Long story short, I love my old FE950 but I know for a fact these CRTs don't last forever. The retards in the various companies are now peddling LCDs, which I have always detested. I fear now that I have no choice, as there are no high-end CRTs being made anymore. (I think there is a Philips model still in production, but no one online has ever posted a comment as to how good it is.) I know about different types of LCD panels... TN, IPS, MVA, PVA, etc but there is never any concrete data about color quality/blackness level, etc. I have tried photo editing on my laptop LCD, and it is horrific. Pics I delete because they look bad on the LCD look beautiful on the CRT. There HAS to be a decent LCD display out there for not too much money. Or a good CRT still in production. What has the list used and what should be avoided? **CLIFF NOTES** Want high-end CRT. Can't find any. Need an LCD with good color rendition. Thoughts? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Need a good monitor! (see post end for cliffnotes)
Alex, I have Philips Brilliance 200W6CS monitor. It is 20 diagonal with 16:10 aspect ratio LCD. It is really excellent LCD. That much excellent that I don't look back to any CRT I've used/seen before. I suggest you take a look. Boris AlexG wrote: I currently have a Nec Multisync FE950 CRT based around the old Diamondtron NF series of tube. It's a great monitor. Sharp as a tack with beautiful color rendition, still as bright and sharp as the day I got it 8 years ago. Realistic maximum res it can handle is 1360x1024 @ 85hz. 1600x1200 is sharp enough but at 75Hz it starts to hurt after a whole. I scored a used Diamondtron 2070SB, manufactured late 2003 for about $250. The seller misrepresented the monitor. While it's reasonably sharp all the way up to 1920x1440 @ 85hz (a truly awesome resolution to work in. I can't describe how great it is to have that much screen space) it suffers from bad color rendition (posterizing?) especially in skin tones, bad brightness (presumably because it's been abused) and ghosting/banding. Basically unusable for photo editing (but great for games) Long story short, I love my old FE950 but I know for a fact these CRTs don't last forever. The retards in the various companies are now peddling LCDs, which I have always detested. I fear now that I have no choice, as there are no high-end CRTs being made anymore. (I think there is a Philips model still in production, but no one online has ever posted a comment as to how good it is.) I know about different types of LCD panels... TN, IPS, MVA, PVA, etc but there is never any concrete data about color quality/blackness level, etc. I have tried photo editing on my laptop LCD, and it is horrific. Pics I delete because they look bad on the LCD look beautiful on the CRT. There HAS to be a decent LCD display out there for not too much money. Or a good CRT still in production. What has the list used and what should be avoided? **CLIFF NOTES** Want high-end CRT. Can't find any. Need an LCD with good color rendition. Thoughts? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Need a good monitor! (see post end for cliffnotes)
No, the laptop display is definitely not calibrated. I think the issue lies in that it is a low-bitrate panel. Dithering and very low contrast, so everything looks flat and lifeless. Also accentuates things like digital noise. I was considering buying a calibrator (Pantone Huey) but several usenet posts state that it's just no good. On 5/3/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex, I have Philips Brilliance 200W6CS monitor. It is 20 diagonal with 16:10 aspect ratio LCD. It is really excellent LCD. That much excellent that I don't look back to any CRT I've used/seen before. I suggest you take a look. Boris AlexG wrote: I currently have a Nec Multisync FE950 CRT based around the old Diamondtron NF series of tube. It's a great monitor. Sharp as a tack with beautiful color rendition, still as bright and sharp as the day I got it 8 years ago. Realistic maximum res it can handle is 1360x1024 @ 85hz. 1600x1200 is sharp enough but at 75Hz it starts to hurt after a whole. I scored a used Diamondtron 2070SB, manufactured late 2003 for about $250. The seller misrepresented the monitor. While it's reasonably sharp all the way up to 1920x1440 @ 85hz (a truly awesome resolution to work in. I can't describe how great it is to have that much screen space) it suffers from bad color rendition (posterizing?) especially in skin tones, bad brightness (presumably because it's been abused) and ghosting/banding. Basically unusable for photo editing (but great for games) Long story short, I love my old FE950 but I know for a fact these CRTs don't last forever. The retards in the various companies are now peddling LCDs, which I have always detested. I fear now that I have no choice, as there are no high-end CRTs being made anymore. (I think there is a Philips model still in production, but no one online has ever posted a comment as to how good it is.) I know about different types of LCD panels... TN, IPS, MVA, PVA, etc but there is never any concrete data about color quality/blackness level, etc. I have tried photo editing on my laptop LCD, and it is horrific. Pics I delete because they look bad on the LCD look beautiful on the CRT. There HAS to be a decent LCD display out there for not too much money. Or a good CRT still in production. What has the list used and what should be avoided? **CLIFF NOTES** Want high-end CRT. Can't find any. Need an LCD with good color rendition. Thoughts? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Need a good monitor! (see post end for cliffnotes)
Check the offerings from NEC and from LaCie (some LaCie's are just rebranded NEC LCDs). I have the 19 NEC 1980FXI and calibrate it using basICColor. The colors and resolutio are excellent. Maris AlexG wrote: I currently have a Nec Multisync FE950 CRT based around the old Diamondtron NF series of tube. It's a great monitor. Sharp as a tack with beautiful color rendition, still as bright and sharp as the day I got it 8 years ago. Realistic maximum res it can handle is 1360x1024 @ 85hz. 1600x1200 is sharp enough but at 75Hz it starts to hurt after a whole. There HAS to be a decent LCD display out there for not too much money. Or a good CRT still in production. What has the list used and what should be avoided? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Need a good monitor! (see post end for cliffnotes)
The Huey works very well on my HP laptop and our iBook. On our G5 iMac it's terrible. Rick --- AlexG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was considering buying a calibrator (Pantone Huey) but several usenet posts state that it's just no good. On 5/3/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex, I have Philips Brilliance 200W6CS monitor. It is 20 diagonal with 16:10 aspect ratio LCD. It is really excellent LCD. That much excellent that I don't look back to any CRT I've used/seen before. I suggest you take a look. Boris AlexG wrote: I currently have a Nec Multisync FE950 CRT based around the old Diamondtron NF series of tube. It's a great monitor. Sharp as a tack with beautiful color rendition, still as bright and sharp as the day I got it 8 years ago. Realistic maximum res it can handle is 1360x1024 @ 85hz. 1600x1200 is sharp enough but at 75Hz it starts to hurt after a whole. I scored a used Diamondtron 2070SB, manufactured late 2003 for about $250. The seller misrepresented the monitor. While it's reasonably sharp all the way up to 1920x1440 @ 85hz (a truly awesome resolution to work in. I can't describe how great it is to have that much screen space) it suffers from bad color rendition (posterizing?) especially in skin tones, bad brightness (presumably because it's been abused) and ghosting/banding. Basically unusable for photo editing (but great for games) Long story short, I love my old FE950 but I know for a fact these CRTs don't last forever. The retards in the various companies are now peddling LCDs, which I have always detested. I fear now that I have no choice, as there are no high-end CRTs being made anymore. (I think there is a Philips model still in production, but no one online has ever posted a comment as to how good it is.) I know about different types of LCD panels... TN, IPS, MVA, PVA, etc but there is never any concrete data about color quality/blackness level, etc. I have tried photo editing on my laptop LCD, and it is horrific. Pics I delete because they look bad on the LCD look beautiful on the CRT. There HAS to be a decent LCD display out there for not too much money. Or a good CRT still in production. What has the list used and what should be avoided? **CLIFF NOTES** Want high-end CRT. Can't find any. Need an LCD with good color rendition. Thoughts? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
