Nikon goes retro.

2013-11-13 Thread P.J. Alling
Been away for a while, buried in a project.  But, the Nikon Df has 
somehow grabbed my attention.  Probably been discussed to death here, 
but I can't help wondering why?  At first blush it /looks/ like a 
classic Nikon, but the only thing that it's better at than say a D6xx is 
backwards lens compatibility, and considering the difference in price if 
I were a Nikon shooter, I'd have much preferred that they'd put that 
capability in a D6xx.  When you look at the details it's no more a 
Nikkormat or FM which it superficially resembles than an OM-D is a 
classic OM-1/2/3/4.


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Re: Nikon goes retro.

2013-11-13 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:57:26PM -0500, P.J. Alling wrote:
 Been away for a while, buried in a project.  But, the Nikon Df has
 somehow grabbed my attention.  Probably been discussed to death
 here, but I can't help wondering why?  At first blush it /looks/
 like a classic Nikon, but the only thing that it's better at than
 say a D6xx is backwards lens compatibility, and considering the
 difference in price if I were a Nikon shooter, I'd have much
 preferred that they'd put that capability in a D6xx.  When you look
 at the details it's no more a Nikkormat or FM which it superficially
 resembles than an OM-D is a classic OM-1/2/3/4.

Since it's a D4 sensor, I suspect that it will outperform the D610
in every respect except resolution.
It will be interesting to see what DxO says about them.

 
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Re: Nikon goes retro.

2013-11-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 13, 2013, at 9:57 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Been away for a while, buried in a project.  But, the Nikon Df has somehow 
 grabbed my attention.  Probably been discussed to death here, but I can't 
 help wondering why?  At first blush it /looks/ like a classic Nikon, but the 
 only thing that it's better at than say a D6xx is backwards lens 
 compatibility, and considering the difference in price if I were a Nikon 
 shooter, I'd have much preferred that they'd put that capability in a D6xx.  
 When you look at the details it's no more a Nikkormat or FM which it 
 superficially resembles than an OM-D is a classic OM-1/2/3/4.

If it were not a modern camera, it would not sell. 

To my eye, it looks bloated and the bevy of dials and buttons makes it look 
overly complicated. However, one set of comparison photos makes it clear that 
it's much more nearly the size of the F3 than even the D610, which is in turn a 
good bit trimmer than the D800 and D4. I reserve judgment until I see one in 
the flesh. :-)

I don't know what pure photography was supposed to be, but if the sensor is 
good and the controls work well, and it takes my Nikkor 50/1.2 AI-S and 
Nikkor-H 85/1.8 Pre-AI allowing metering, it might present some interest for 
me. 

Not much, to be honest. I'm pretty darn happy with what I have now. 

G
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Re: Nikon goes retro.

2013-11-13 Thread Darren Addy
Someone please help. PDML seems to be caught in an infinite loop in
the time/space continuum.

On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote:
 On Nov 13, 2013, at 9:57 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

 Been away for a while, buried in a project.  But, the Nikon Df has somehow 
 grabbed my attention.  Probably been discussed to death here, but I can't 
 help wondering why?  At first blush it /looks/ like a classic Nikon, but the 
 only thing that it's better at than say a D6xx is backwards lens 
 compatibility, and considering the difference in price if I were a Nikon 
 shooter, I'd have much preferred that they'd put that capability in a D6xx.  
 When you look at the details it's no more a Nikkormat or FM which it 
 superficially resembles than an OM-D is a classic OM-1/2/3/4.

 If it were not a modern camera, it would not sell.

 To my eye, it looks bloated and the bevy of dials and buttons makes it look 
 overly complicated. However, one set of comparison photos makes it clear that 
 it's much more nearly the size of the F3 than even the D610, which is in turn 
 a good bit trimmer than the D800 and D4. I reserve judgment until I see one 
 in the flesh. :-)

 I don't know what pure photography was supposed to be, but if the sensor is 
 good and the controls work well, and it takes my Nikkor 50/1.2 AI-S and 
 Nikkor-H 85/1.8 Pre-AI allowing metering, it might present some interest for 
 me.

 Not much, to be honest. I'm pretty darn happy with what I have now.

 G
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Re: Nikon goes retro.

2013-11-13 Thread John
I think the target market is aging hipsters  they're going to sell a 
shit pot load of them ... Df cameras, not hipsters. I think it's against 
the law to sell hipsters now.


On 11/13/2013 4:00 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Someone please help. PDML seems to be caught in an infinite loop in
the time/space continuum.

On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote:

On Nov 13, 2013, at 9:57 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:


Been away for a while, buried in a project.  But, the Nikon Df has somehow 
grabbed my attention.  Probably been discussed to death here, but I can't help 
wondering why?  At first blush it /looks/ like a classic Nikon, but the only 
thing that it's better at than say a D6xx is backwards lens compatibility, and 
considering the difference in price if I were a Nikon shooter, I'd have much 
preferred that they'd put that capability in a D6xx.  When you look at the 
details it's no more a Nikkormat or FM which it superficially resembles than an 
OM-D is a classic OM-1/2/3/4.


If it were not a modern camera, it would not sell.

To my eye, it looks bloated and the bevy of dials and buttons makes it look 
overly complicated. However, one set of comparison photos makes it clear that 
it's much more nearly the size of the F3 than even the D610, which is in turn a 
good bit trimmer than the D800 and D4. I reserve judgment until I see one in 
the flesh. :-)

I don't know what pure photography was supposed to be, but if the sensor is 
good and the controls work well, and it takes my Nikkor 50/1.2 AI-S and Nikkor-H 85/1.8 
Pre-AI allowing metering, it might present some interest for me.

Not much, to be honest. I'm pretty darn happy with what I have now.

G


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