Re: OT: Kodak APS cameras

2004-01-15 Thread Keith Whaley
I don't think anyone has used a nitrate based film for dozens of years,
maybe 30!

keith whaley

Herb Chong wrote:
 
 did they every use nitrate base for still camera film? that would limit the
 life of a lot of negatives.
 
 Herb
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  Interestingly, Creative Memories tech people
  have determined that APS negs will last longer
  than 35mm negs.  And it's not because of the can, either.
  Apparently there is a real difference in the film material itself.



Re: OT: Kodak APS cameras

2004-01-15 Thread Herb Chong
yeah, but people talk about silver negatives lasting hundreds of years.

Herb
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 I don't think anyone has used a nitrate based film for dozens of years,
 maybe 30!




Re: OT: Kodak APS cameras

2004-01-15 Thread Dr E D F Williams
More like 50 or 60. In the West anyway.

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 I don't think anyone has used a nitrate based film for dozens of years,
 maybe 30!

 keith whaley

 Herb Chong wrote:
 
  did they every use nitrate base for still camera film? that would limit
the
  life of a lot of negatives.
 
  Herb
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  From: Collin Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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   Interestingly, Creative Memories tech people
   have determined that APS negs will last longer
   than 35mm negs.  And it's not because of the can, either.
   Apparently there is a real difference in the film material itself.




Re: OT: Kodak APS cameras

2004-01-15 Thread Keith Whaley
Okay, but what does the fact that silver negatives that last hundreds of
years have to do with a nitrate based film not being made anymore?
It's the nitrate that decomposes and becomes dangerous over time, not
the silver.
It's the nitrate content that made the film industry abandon it for use
in movie film, and I'd guess later in home consumption films.

keith whaley

Herb Chong wrote:
 
 yeah, but people talk about silver negatives lasting hundreds of years.
 
 Herb
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  I don't think anyone has used a nitrate based film for dozens of years,
  maybe 30!



RE: OT: Kodak APS cameras

2004-01-15 Thread Jeff Jonsson
Nitrate film stock is responsible for the fire in the crowded theater
saying. Movie theaters would routinely catch fire while they were using
nitrate film. You know how movie films sometimes stick in the gate
during projection and you see a frame burn? Well with nitrate stock,
that would produce an explosion.

Jeff.

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Okay, but what does the fact that silver negatives that last hundreds of
years have to do with a nitrate based film not being made anymore? It's
the nitrate that decomposes and becomes dangerous over time, not the
silver. It's the nitrate content that made the film industry abandon it
for use in movie film, and I'd guess later in home consumption films.

keith whaley

Herb Chong wrote:
 
 yeah, but people talk about silver negatives lasting hundreds of 
 years.
 
 Herb
 - Original Message -
 From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Re: OT: Kodak APS cameras
 
  I don't think anyone has used a nitrate based film for dozens of 
  years, maybe 30!




Re: OT: Kodak APS cameras

2004-01-14 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Interestingly, Creative Memories tech people
have determined that APS negs will last longer
than 35mm negs.  And it's not because of the can, either.
Apparently there is a real difference in the film material itself.




RE: OT: Kodak APS cameras

2004-01-14 Thread frank theriault
Wasn't the Retina SLR made up to at least the late 50's or early 60's?  I 
know they were made in Germany (don't know by whom), but they were badged as 
Kodak.

I don't know if they were great cameras, but they were pretty good for 
their time, IIRC.

cheers,
frank
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From: Jim Apilado [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Kodak was never a player in the film camera business.  I think the last
great cameras made by them were in the 1940's,  the 35mm Ektra and the
medium format (620 film) Medalist cameras.
Jim A.
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Re: OT: Kodak APS cameras

2004-01-14 Thread Herb Chong
did they every use nitrate base for still camera film? that would limit the
life of a lot of negatives.

Herb
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Subject: Re: OT: Kodak APS cameras


 Interestingly, Creative Memories tech people
 have determined that APS negs will last longer
 than 35mm negs.  And it's not because of the can, either.
 Apparently there is a real difference in the film material itself.