OT: Sometimes computers just make me crazy.

2012-05-23 Thread John Sessoms
For some reason, my computers in the other room can't map my NAS. I 
currently have 3 computers networked. I have a Cable modem attached to a 
4 port router.


Attached to the router are this computer, the NAS, my big network laser 
printer and a cable going to a 4-port ethernet hub in the other room. 
Connected to that hub are my laptop & my PhotoShop computer.


This computer has the NAS mapped. I can access everything on the NAS 
from this computer.


The two computers in the other room are both connected. I can get to the 
internet from them. I can print to the network laser printer. I had the 
NAS mapped as network drives on both of the computers in the other room, 
but a few minutes ago I found both of them showing the network drive 
disconnected.


And now when I try to reconnect, both computers are giving me "network 
path not found" errors when I try to map the drive. I've used the 
disconnect command from Windoze. I've used the net use /delete command 
from a command prompt & I've rebooted both computers, but they still 
won't connect to the NAS.


I know I'll figure it out eventually, but in the meantime, my tenuous 
grip on sanity is fraying.


Finished with rant!

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Re: OT: Sometimes computers just make me crazy.

2012-05-23 Thread Charles Robinson
On May 23, 2012, at 14:58, John Sessoms wrote:
> 
> And now when I try to reconnect, both computers are giving me "network path 
> not found" errors when I try to map the drive. I've used the disconnect 
> command from Windoze. I've used the net use /delete command from a command 
> prompt & I've rebooted both computers, but they still won't connect to the 
> NAS.
> 
> I know I'll figure it out eventually, but in the meantime, my tenuous grip on 
> sanity is fraying.
> 

First thing to try: 

1. Take the cable out of the 4-port "hub" (please tell me it's a switch, hubs 
are so 1990's)
2. Plug that cable DIRECTLY into either your laptop or Photoshop PC and see if 
the behavior is different.

Most likely you'll find (since it's what they have in common) that the problem 
is/was with that 4-port hub.

If you STILL experience issues:

3. Take the laptop into the room with the 4-port router.  Disconnect the cable 
that runs to the hub and plug the laptop straight into THAT port.  

Let us know if anything is different with any of those connections.  Hope this 
helps.

 -Charles

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Re: OT: Sometimes computers just make me crazy.

2012-05-23 Thread Darren Addy
First thing I would try is to reboot the router.
Unplug the power cord on it for 30 seconds & plug it back in.

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Re: OT: Sometimes computers just make me crazy.

2012-05-23 Thread John Sessoms

From: Charles Robinson


On May 23, 2012, at 14:58, John Sessoms wrote:

And now when I try to reconnect, both computers are giving me "network path not 
found" errors when I try to map the drive. I've used the disconnect command from 
Windoze. I've used the net use /delete command from a command prompt & I've rebooted both 
computers, but they still won't connect to the NAS.

I know I'll figure it out eventually, but in the meantime, my tenuous grip on 
sanity is fraying.


First thing to try:

1. Take the cable out of the 4-port "hub" (please tell me it's a switch, hubs 
are so 1990's)
2. Plug that cable DIRECTLY into either your laptop or Photoshop PC and see if 
the behavior is different.



Hub - switch ... I dunno. It's a "Gigafast Ethernet".

Actually 8 ports, but it doesn't have whatever it needs to connect 
directly to the cable modem for sharing my internet connection, but it 
does allow me to split up the connection running back to the other room.


I'm getting network connectivity back there.

I can access the internet on both machines. I can print to the network 
printer from both machines. I can see the shared folders on this 
computer from both machines back there, and I can see the shared folders 
on each of the machines back there on this computer can see the shared 
folders on each other back there..


All three computers can print to the network printer and all three 
computers can access the shared folders on the other two computers.


I basically have everything on my network working except that for some 
reason mapping the network storage got disconnected on those two 
computers and now gives an error "network path not found" when I try to 
map it.


I'm pretty sure that the drive mapping was disconnected when an 
automatic software update (Quicktime) took place and wanted a reboot 
which I wasn't there to authorize. At the time, I had left Adobe Bridge 
open to folders on the network storage on both computers and the reboot 
appears to have stalled.



Most likely you'll find (since it's what they have in common) that the problem 
is/was with that 4-port hub.

If you STILL experience issues:

3. Take the laptop into the room with the 4-port router.  Disconnect the cable 
that runs to the hub and plug the laptop straight into THAT port.

Let us know if anything is different with any of those connections.  Hope this 
helps.



If I take the cable going back to the hub/switch/whatever and connect it 
directly to the Ethernet port on either computer in the other room, I 
get the same results. I can print. I can access the internet. I can see 
the shared folders back there from this computer and I can see the 
shared folders on this computer from back there.


But I still can't map a network drive to the NAS from back there. Same 
error message "network path not found." Doesn't matter whether I use the 
wizard or net use command.


What I expect I'm going to have to do is just shut everything down and 
restart every device in proper sequence.


That requires crawling up under the desk to get to the power switch on 
the router, and I'm not going to do that tonight.



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Re: OT: Sometimes computers just make me crazy.

2012-05-24 Thread Charles Robinson
On May 23, 2012, at 21:22, John Sessoms wrote:
> If I take the cable going back to the hub/switch/whatever and connect it 
> directly to the Ethernet port on either computer in the other room, I get the 
> same results. I can print. I can access the internet. I can see the shared 
> folders back there from this computer and I can see the shared folders on 
> this computer from back there.
> 

Well, at least you've ruled out hardware failure of the hub/switch. 

Good luck - sounds like something more obtuse and funky to diagnose!

 -Charles

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Re: OT: Sometimes computers just make me crazy.

2012-05-24 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
I tried NAS on a netgear router.
Didn't work.
The drive was "shared" but also locked from multi-access.
When on system had it mapped the others could not access it.
It was frustrating, so I gave up.
(I think it will allow multi-access for reading, but not for writing.)

SAN is so much better than NAS.

Sincerely, 

Collin Brendemuehl 
"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose" 
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Re: OT: Sometimes computers just make me crazy.

2012-05-25 Thread John Sessoms

From: Charles Robinson


On May 23, 2012, at 21:22, John Sessoms wrote:

If I take the cable going back to the hub/switch/whatever and
connect it directly to the Ethernet port on either computer in the
other room, I get the same results. I can print. I can access the
internet. I can see the shared folders back there from this
computer and I can see the shared folders on this computer from
back there.


Well, at least you've ruled out hardware failure of the hub/switch.

Good luck - sounds like something more obtuse and funky to diagnose!


I do not have a clue what the problem was. I shut everything down and 
crawled under the desk to get to the router.


The router was sitting on the floor under the desk because the cable to 
the network printer was too short for it to sit anywhere else. I swapped 
cables around so I could reposition the router up on top of the desk so 
I won't have to crawl under there to get to it next time things get screwy.


I restarted everything in sequence - this computer, NAS, Laptop, 
PhotoShop computer ... and everything is forgiven. They're all mapping 
the NAS, and they're all printing to the network printer, each of the 3 
computers can see the shared folders on the other two computers and they 
can all reach the internet.


"I can't think about that right now. If I do, I'll go crazy. I'll think 
about that tomorrow."


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Re: OT: Sometimes computers just make me crazy.

2012-05-25 Thread Charles Robinson
On May 25, 2012, at 13:00, John Sessoms wrote:
> 
> I restarted everything in sequence - this computer, NAS, Laptop, PhotoShop 
> computer ... and everything is forgiven. They're all mapping the NAS, and 
> they're all printing to the network printer, each of the 3 computers can see 
> the shared folders on the other two computers and they can all reach the 
> internet.
> 

Problem solved.  Good!

 -Charles

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Re: OT: Sometimes computers just make me crazy.

2012-05-25 Thread Mat Maessen
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Collin Brendemuehl
 wrote:
> SAN is so much better than NAS.

If you have the budget to afford a real SAN for your home network, I
want your source of income. :-P

-Mat

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Re: OT: Sometimes computers just make me crazy.

2012-05-25 Thread John Sessoms

From: "Collin Brendemuehl"


I tried NAS on a netgear router.
Didn't work.
The drive was "shared" but also locked from multi-access.
When on system had it mapped the others could not access it.
It was frustrating, so I gave up.
(I think it will allow multi-access for reading, but not for writing.)

SAN is so much better than NAS.


In my case, I think the only advantage of the NAS is I've got it & it's 
(currently?) working (again?).


I don't know if it matters that both the NAS & the router are by D-link. 
I'm thinking about eventually getting another NAS, and I'm looking at 
the Netgear version Next time around.


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Re: OT: Sometimes computers just make me crazy.

2012-05-26 Thread Jim King
John Sessoms wrote on Fri, 25 May 2012 11:00:36 -0700

> I do not have a clue what the problem was. I shut everything down and crawled 
> under the desk to get to the router.
> The router was sitting on the floor under the desk because the cable to the 
> network printer was too short for it to sit anywhere else. I swapped cables 
> around so I could reposition the router up on top of the desk so I won't have 
> to crawl under there to get to it next time things get screwy.
> I restarted everything in sequence - this computer, NAS, Laptop, PhotoShop 
> computer ... and everything is forgiven. They're all mapping the NAS, and 
> they're all printing to the network printer, each of the 3 computers can see 
> the shared folders on the other two computers and they can all reach the 
> internet.
> "I can't think about that right now. If I do, I'll go crazy. I'll think about 
> that tomorrow."

My idea of hell is a succession of network problems which I'm forced to try to 
resolve for all eternity…

Regards, Jim


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