Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-16 Thread Cotty
On 15/4/07, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

Heck, it's not even a title. It was a request for critique. There are  
some aggressive young women out there lying in wait. Check out the  
critiques here:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5628194size=lg

The complaint refers to 'Bridal Bootcamp' while your photo is (was)
entitled 'Bridal Boot Camp'. There is a difference. What a load a bollocks! 

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Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-16 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/15/2007 11:27:39 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 15/4/07, Paul Stenquist,  discombobulated, unleashed:

Heck, it's not even a title. It was a  request for critique. There are  
some aggressive young women out  there lying in wait. Check out the  
critiques  here:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5628194size=lg

The  complaint refers to 'Bridal Bootcamp' while your photo is (was)
entitled  'Bridal Boot Camp'. There is a difference. What a load a bollocks! 

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Sheesh, you're right.  There is no trademark infringement (not that there was 
anyway), without exact  spelling.

Sometimes the world (or at least, the US) really seems to be  against 
photographers.

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Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-16 Thread Bob Shell

On Apr 15, 2007, at 10:42 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 Heck, it's not even a title. It was a request for critique. There are
 some aggressive young women out there lying in wait. Check out the
 critiques here:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5628194size=lg

What a load of baloney!

I will title my next ten photos Bridal Boot Camp, Number XX in  
their honor, regardless of the subject.

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Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-16 Thread Bob Shell

On Apr 15, 2007, at 10:42 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 Heck, it's not even a title. It was a request for critique. There are
 some aggressive young women out there lying in wait. Check out the
 critiques here:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5628194size=lg

Wonder if this is their website?  If so, they have bigger problems  
than someone's photo.

http://bridalbootcamp.com/

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Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-16 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/16/2007 4:07:18 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Wonder if this is their  website?  If so, they have bigger problems  
than someone's  photo.

http://bridalbootcamp.com/

Bob

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If  not, Lucille should be siced on them.

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Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-16 Thread Mark Cassino
Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Heck, it's not even a title. It was a request for critique. There are  
 some aggressive young women out there lying in wait. Check out the  
 critiques here:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5628194size=lg
 
Rather absurd - they should of just asked you for a link to their 
services

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Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Lawyers get $300 an hour just to listen. I think I'll just delete it.  
But not yet:-).
Paul
On Apr 15, 2007, at 11:34 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 I wouldn't know what to think if I got such a message, I think I'd  
 refer
 them to my lawyer.

 Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Heck, it's not even a title. It was a request for critique. There are
 some aggressive young women out there lying in wait. Check out the
 critiques here:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5628194size=lg




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Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks David. I reported her to the photo.net administrators. They  
said to just ignore her. She had to join in order to post a critique.  
That's a lot of effort for what's involved. I think the one she's  
really after is the lady who is in the photo. She uses the name  
bridal boot camp, and has become quite well known. The recent  
article in the NY Times is just one of many. What's probably bugging  
Lucille is that Jennifer, the lady in my picture,  is much better  
looking. Lucille's working name seems to be Cynthia Conde. When you  
go around making threats, you have to have a lot of names:-). Here's  
her website:
http://bridalbootcamponline.com/
On Apr 16, 2007, at 12:38 AM, David Savage wrote:

 ROTFLMAO

 I wonder if she'll get her lawyers onto the army for trademark
 infringement also.

 I like the photo BTW.

 Cheers,

 Dave

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Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Pic is still there, Mark.


On Apr 16, 2007, at 7:40 AM, Mark Cassino wrote:

 Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Heck, it's not even a title. It was a request for critique. There are
 some aggressive young women out there lying in wait. Check out the
 critiques here:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5628194size=lg

 Rather absurd - they should of just asked you for a link to their
 services

 - MCC

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Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
No, this is their website:
http://bridalbootcamponline.com/
Apparently, Lucille is just an alias. Or perhaps Cynthia Conde is an  
alias. Note that she's not as attractive as Jennifer, the lady in my  
photo. Perhaps that adds to her angst?
Disclaimer: Don't mean to be sexist here. But Cynthia, nee Lucille,  
is such an easy target:-).
Paul
On Apr 16, 2007, at 7:06 AM, Bob Shell wrote:


 On Apr 15, 2007, at 10:42 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 Heck, it's not even a title. It was a request for critique. There are
 some aggressive young women out there lying in wait. Check out the
 critiques here:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5628194size=lg

 Wonder if this is their website?  If so, they have bigger problems
 than someone's photo.

 http://bridalbootcamp.com/

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RE: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-16 Thread Minelli Flavio
Paul, 

if you decide to start a Bridal Bootcamp teasing contest I'm ready
anytime. 

It would be too nice to replace them in a Google search with a nice shot
of some Hippos running...

What an idiot. I bet her lawyer is her husband, if she managed somehow
to get one...

And gender has nothig to do with it, don't worry.


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Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote:

Heck, it's not even a title. It was a request for critique. There are  
some aggressive young women out there lying in wait. Check out the  
critiques here:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5628194size=lg

I once got a snail mail notice that one of my songs' titles was 
infringing on a trademark. The business sending the letter offered to 
forgive the infringement for a one-time payment of four thousand 
dollars and threatened to refer the matter to their lawyers if I didn't 
pay up.

The obvious tip-off, even had I been ignorant of legal specifics, was 
the  threat to refer the matter to their lawyers - in a real 
infringement case I would have received a letter *from* the lawyers.

I thought of explaining them that *titles* of creative works are not 
covered by either copyright or trademark, but then I realized they 
already knew that.

So I briefly considered composing a letter consisting of 
Hahahahahahah... covering an entire page. But in the end I just 
decided to ignore them as not being worth the effort. That was around 
six years ago, IIRC, and the song's still on my web site.


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Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob Shell wrote:

On Apr 15, 2007, at 10:42 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 Heck, it's not even a title. It was a request for critique. There are
 some aggressive young women out there lying in wait. Check out the
 critiques here:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5628194size=lg

Wonder if this is their website?  If so, they have bigger problems  
than someone's photo.

http://bridalbootcamp.com/

Nope Cynthia Conde's site is bridalbootcamponline.com. Guess they'll 
have to sue bridalbootcamp.com. 
And bridalbootcamp.ca

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Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-16 Thread Mark Roberts
David Savage wrote:

ROTFLMAO

I wonder if she'll get her lawyers onto the army for trademark
infringement also.

Oh no, not the army. She's lined up some people far more threatening...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRm5WcjOikQ


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Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-16 Thread David Savage
On 4/16/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oh no, not the army. She's lined up some people far more threatening...
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRm5WcjOikQ

...it's dangerous!

Har!

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Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-16 Thread Christian
Paul Stenquist wrote:
 No, this is their website:
 http://bridalbootcamponline.com/
 Apparently, Lucille is just an alias. Or perhaps Cynthia Conde is an  
 alias. Note that she's not as attractive as Jennifer, the lady in my  
 photo. Perhaps that adds to her angst?
 Disclaimer: Don't mean to be sexist here. But Cynthia, nee Lucille,  
 is such an easy target:-).

I dunno, Paul...  Granted her threat is stupid, but I kinda dig the more 
severe look of Lucille/Cynthia and find her quite attractive...  Then 
again I have a thing for errr, ummm, dominant women...  ;-)

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Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-16 Thread P. J. Alling
A loaded lawyer is more dangerous than a loaded gun...

Boris Liberman wrote:
 Paul, I must admit that I thought US of A was a strange country - a big 
 mysterious world full of lawyers (no disrespect to Frank, though he is 
 Canadian anyway). Now I am thinking it is even more than strange - weird 
 may be the term or bizarre.

 First I thought it was funny, then it sank down my head that it actually 
 is anything but.

 *Sigh*

 Boris


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 Heck, it's not even a title. It was a request for critique. There are  
 some aggressive young women out there lying in wait. Check out the  
 critiques here:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5628194size=lg

 


   


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Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-16 Thread P. J. Alling
I'd expect that being referred to a real lawyer would just shut them up.

Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Lawyers get $300 an hour just to listen. I think I'll just delete it.  
 But not yet:-).
 Paul
 On Apr 15, 2007, at 11:34 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

   
 I wouldn't know what to think if I got such a message, I think I'd  
 refer
 them to my lawyer.

 Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
 Heck, it's not even a title. It was a request for critique. There are
 some aggressive young women out there lying in wait. Check out the
 critiques here:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5628194size=lg


   
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Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-16 Thread P. J. Alling
I'm now waiting for WW's comment.

Christian wrote:
 Paul Stenquist wrote:
   
 No, this is their website:
 http://bridalbootcamponline.com/
 Apparently, Lucille is just an alias. Or perhaps Cynthia Conde is an  
 alias. Note that she's not as attractive as Jennifer, the lady in my  
 photo. Perhaps that adds to her angst?
 Disclaimer: Don't mean to be sexist here. But Cynthia, nee Lucille,  
 is such an easy target:-).
 

 I dunno, Paul...  Granted her threat is stupid, but I kinda dig the more 
 severe look of Lucille/Cynthia and find her quite attractive...  Then 
 again I have a thing for errr, ummm, dominant women...  ;-)

   


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Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-16 Thread Mark Roberts
P. J. Alling wrote:

Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Lawyers get $300 an hour just to listen. I think I'll just delete it.  
 But not yet:-).

I'd expect that being referred to a real lawyer would just shut them up.

Nah, it would tell them that they're being taken seriously, which they 
shouldn't be.

Notice that they sent the message themselves and just cc'd their own 
lawyer (or *pretended* to have cc'd their lawyer). If they were serious 
they'd have contacted their lawyer first and had the *lawyer* send the 
message. They have no case and they know it, so they aren't wasting any 
money on a lawyer. Neither should paul.


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Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-16 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title


 I'm now waiting for WW's comment.

Not enough latex.
I'm looking for an appropriate Bridal Boot Camp picture of my own.

WW

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Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-16 Thread David J Brooks
Maybe i'll title my Vallley of Fire shots, Bridal Booty Camp on Fire.

Good thing your didi not us a bacwards ' R ' in that title. Then you'd
be in trouble.

:-)

Dave

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  I'm now waiting for WW's comment.

 Not enough latex.
 I'm looking for an appropriate Bridal Boot Camp picture of my own.

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Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-16 Thread Christian
William Robb wrote:
 
 Not enough latex.

Can you ever really have ENOUGH latex? :-)

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RE: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-16 Thread Tom C
Laughable.  Actually good to see that Mr. Greenspun took issue with it.


Tom C.

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Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:42:25 -0400

Heck, it's not even a title. It was a request for critique. There are
some aggressive young women out there lying in wait. Check out the
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Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-16 Thread Tom C
If I were a man (which I was last time I looked), and my prospective bride 
were to attend something like this to merely be trimmer for their wedding 
day, I would start thinking... will she keep it up after the wedding day?

All men of course would like their bride to look like a swimsuit beauty 
contest winner, which is not possible based on the DNA we've inherited 
(especially me).

Here's an excerpt from the Amazon book review...

All women want to look their best and feel great on their wedding day. 
Whether that includes losing weight or just toning up, this crash course in 
fitness is precisely what they need to really shine on one of the most 
important days of their lives...

Jump, stretch, bend, flex! Anyone can diet in time for their nuptials, but 
by following the regimen in Bridal Bootcamp, they'll be trim and glowing by 
the wedding day, and stay that way for years afterward. 

Seems like some pretty BROAD claims, if you ask me.

A shallow web-site hoping to pick the pocket of insecure prospective 
brides-to-be.

Tom C.



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Subject: Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 09:09:24 -0400 (EDT)

Bob Shell wrote:

 On Apr 15, 2007, at 10:42 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
  Heck, it's not even a title. It was a request for critique. There are
  some aggressive young women out there lying in wait. Check out the
  critiques here:
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5628194size=lg
 
 Wonder if this is their website?  If so, they have bigger problems
 than someone's photo.
 
 http://bridalbootcamp.com/

Nope Cynthia Conde's site is bridalbootcamponline.com. Guess they'll
have to sue bridalbootcamp.com.
And bridalbootcamp.ca

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RE: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-16 Thread Bob W
Lucille appears to be a fitness instructor. She's as much a lawyer as
my fridge. Tell her to go for the burn.

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 I'd expect that being referred to a real lawyer would just 
 shut them up.
 
 Paul Stenquist wrote:
  Lawyers get $300 an hour just to listen. I think I'll just 
 delete it.  
  But not yet:-).
  Paul
  On Apr 15, 2007, at 11:34 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
 

  I wouldn't know what to think if I got such a message, I 
 think I'd  
  refer
  them to my lawyer.
 
  Paul Stenquist wrote:
  
  Heck, it's not even a title. It was a request for 
 critique. There are
  some aggressive young women out there lying in wait. Check out
the
  critiques here:
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5628194size=lg
 
 

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Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-16 Thread Mark Cassino
Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Pic is still there, Mark.

Yeah - shows up now. Nice shot, hopefully the marines won't on your case 
for using their copyrighted boot camp phrase... :-)

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Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Mark. It was a fun shoot. As you can see:-)
Paul
On Apr 16, 2007, at 6:05 PM, Mark Cassino wrote:

 Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Pic is still there, Mark.

 Yeah - shows up now. Nice shot, hopefully the marines won't on your  
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OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
Heck, it's not even a title. It was a request for critique. There are  
some aggressive young women out there lying in wait. Check out the  
critiques here:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5628194size=lg

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Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-15 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 16/04/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Heck, it's not even a title. It was a request for critique. There are
 some aggressive young women out there lying in wait. Check out the
 critiques here:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5628194size=lg

Morons :-(

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OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-15 Thread Jim King
Paul Stenquist wrote on Sun, 15 Apr 2007 19:49:45 -0700:

 Heck, it's not even a title. It was a request for critique. There are
 some aggressive young women out there lying in wait. Check out the
 critiques here:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5628194size=lg

WAY too many lawyers out there with nothing constructive to do!

I'd be tempted to tell that shyster to sue and be damned...

Regards, Jim

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Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-15 Thread P. J. Alling
I wouldn't know what to think if I got such a message, I think I'd refer 
them to my lawyer.

Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Heck, it's not even a title. It was a request for critique. There are  
 some aggressive young women out there lying in wait. Check out the  
 critiques here:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5628194size=lg

   


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Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
LOL ... How stupid can they be?

G

On Apr 15, 2007, at 7:42 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 Heck, it's not even a title. It was a request for critique. There are
 some aggressive young women out there lying in wait. Check out the
 critiques here:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5628194size=lg


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Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-15 Thread Doug Brewer

On Apr 15, 2007, at 10:42 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 Heck, it's not even a title. It was a request for critique. There are
 some aggressive young women out there lying in wait. Check out the
 critiques here:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5628194size=lg

Nothing like spreading a little good PR, huh?

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Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-15 Thread Boris Liberman
Paul, I must admit that I thought US of A was a strange country - a big 
mysterious world full of lawyers (no disrespect to Frank, though he is 
Canadian anyway). Now I am thinking it is even more than strange - weird 
may be the term or bizarre.

First I thought it was funny, then it sank down my head that it actually 
is anything but.

*Sigh*

Boris


Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Heck, it's not even a title. It was a request for critique. There are  
 some aggressive young women out there lying in wait. Check out the  
 critiques here:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5628194size=lg
 


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Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-15 Thread David Savage
ROTFLMAO

I wonder if she'll get her lawyers onto the army for trademark
infringement also.

I like the photo BTW.

Cheers,

Dave

On 4/16/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Heck, it's not even a title. It was a request for critique. There are
 some aggressive young women out there lying in wait. Check out the
 critiques here:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5628194size=lg

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Re: OT: Threatened over a photo title

2007-04-15 Thread Paul Sorenson
What a crock of crap!!  Anyone who takes issue like that has to be 
pretty damn insecure about the value of what they're producing.  Add 
that to the long list of so-called reality shows that I won't be 
watching this fall.

-P

Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Heck, it's not even a title. It was a request for critique. There are  
 some aggressive young women out there lying in wait. Check out the  
 critiques here:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5628194size=lg
 


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