Re: OT: Weather Out of Whack - a WWII cooler!

2017-02-14 Thread Jack Davis 
Love it, Alan! 
Thanks for posting.

J

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> On Feb 13, 2017, at 11:01 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> 
> Classic ingenuity!
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017, at 04:01 PM, Alan C wrote:
>> Just for fun I've posted a scan of a crude evaporative fridge (called the 
>> Bullshitator) from my late Father's WWII snaps. This was taken in
>> Abyssinia 
>> about 1940. All his war time images were taken with a black Brownie Box 
>> which I later used to begin my photographic distractions.
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/32767741631/
>> 
>> Alan C
>> 
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: Alan C
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 6:26 AM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: Weather Out of Whack!
>> 
>> Paul & PJ, thanks for that.
>> 
>> I know about those & some people here have tried them. Unfortunately they
>> are better suited to arid, hot areas like the Middle East where
>> they are built into the flat roofed houses with a small air space above
>> the
>> ceiling. When used in high humidity , low rainfall places like here they
>> do have some cooling effect but actually increase the humidity thereby
>> reducing their own effectiveness. I have seen one here where the
>> evaporative
>> blinds were actually rotten with mildew. We have experimented with a
>> towel
>> (with its lower end in a basin of water) draped over a fan, a sort of
>> home
>> brew evaporative cooler with limited success.
>> 
>> By the middle of March the worst should be over.
>> 
>> Alan C
>> 
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: P. J. Alling
>> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 9:47 PM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: Weather Out of Whack!
>> 
>> I've experienced swamp coolers in temperate climates, and they're what
>> I'd call marginally ineffective.  Better than nothing but not much.  In
>> a desert they work a bit better but mostly at hydrating the air.  Unless
>> you have cold water they don't really seem cool anything.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2/13/2017 10:28 AM, Paul in MKE wrote:
>>> Alan -
>>> 
>>> Would a swamp cooler work for you?  Much less expensive to purchase and 
>>> operate compared to conventional A/C.
>>> 
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evaporative_cooler
>>> 
>>> -p
>>> 
>>> 
 On 2/13/2017 9:07 AM, Alan C wrote:
 40°C+ is hardly exciting, in fact totally debilitating. At the moment our 
 house doesn't even cool below 30°C at night. The pitched roof houses the 
 mines built here are totally unsuited to the Lowveld climate with that 
 huge mass of hot air above the ceiling (very nice in "winter", mind you). 
 Flat roofed houses like those in the Middle East & Mexico would be much 
 better. Unfortunately, Aircons are too expensive to run for hours on end 
 so we have to make do with fans. It would probably be better to sleep 
 outside under a mosquito net. A couple of good rain storms would help a 
 lot but they never seem to get here. Just heard there is a cyclone in the 
 Mozambique Channel so we may be lucky yet.
 
 Alan C
 
 -Original Message- From: ann sanfedele
 Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 3:42 PM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: OT: Weather Out of Whack!
 
 New York is so boring - just normal winter temps -  35° F  (for those of
 you who care I researched to find that ALT 248 = °.  I love alt codes)
 However, the extra strong wind gusts predicted today may lift us out of
 the ordinary..
 
 some scary stuff in California -
 
 ann
 
> On 2/13/2017 2:16 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> Someone I know from the Perth hills in Australia was going to go for a 
> ride the
> other day but:
> http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae266/GU221/fasdegsbn_1.jpg
> 
> That's 55degrees Centigrade (131 in Funnymoney) so he decided to wait 
> until
> evening.
> 
> Here, it's dead normal February weather. ~0degrees, leaden skies (for 
> weeks,
> seemingly) and perpetual drizzle/sleet.  I think I need vitamin D 
> injections.
> 
>> On 13 February 2017 at 02:45 John  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> It was 80 deg F here in Raleigh today. That's 5 deg higher than the old
>> record.
>> 
>> Normal High temperatures for February are around 54 deg F.
>> 
>> Temps are falling off now. It should be 40 deg overnight.
>> 
>> By Wednesday they're calling for a high of 52 deg F, more like regular
>> temperatures, but they're also calling for it to be back up to 70 deg F
>> by the weekend.
>> 
>> I just don't know what to think.
 
 
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Re: OT: Weather Out of Whack - a WWII cooler!

2017-02-13 Thread Brian Walters 
Classic ingenuity!


Cheers

Brian

On Tue, Feb 14, 2017, at 04:01 PM, Alan C wrote:
> Just for fun I've posted a scan of a crude evaporative fridge (called the 
> Bullshitator) from my late Father's WWII snaps. This was taken in
> Abyssinia 
> about 1940. All his war time images were taken with a black Brownie Box 
> which I later used to begin my photographic distractions.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/32767741631/
> 
> Alan C
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Alan C
> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 6:26 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: Weather Out of Whack!
> 
> Paul & PJ, thanks for that.
> 
> I know about those & some people here have tried them. Unfortunately they
> are better suited to arid, hot areas like the Middle East where
> they are built into the flat roofed houses with a small air space above
> the
> ceiling. When used in high humidity , low rainfall places like here they
> do have some cooling effect but actually increase the humidity thereby
> reducing their own effectiveness. I have seen one here where the
> evaporative
> blinds were actually rotten with mildew. We have experimented with a
> towel
> (with its lower end in a basin of water) draped over a fan, a sort of
> home
> brew evaporative cooler with limited success.
> 
> By the middle of March the worst should be over.
> 
> Alan C
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: P. J. Alling
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 9:47 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: Weather Out of Whack!
> 
> I've experienced swamp coolers in temperate climates, and they're what
> I'd call marginally ineffective.  Better than nothing but not much.  In
> a desert they work a bit better but mostly at hydrating the air.  Unless
> you have cold water they don't really seem cool anything.
> 
> 
> On 2/13/2017 10:28 AM, Paul in MKE wrote:
> > Alan -
> >
> > Would a swamp cooler work for you?  Much less expensive to purchase and 
> > operate compared to conventional A/C.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evaporative_cooler
> >
> > -p
> >
> >
> > On 2/13/2017 9:07 AM, Alan C wrote:
> >> 40°C+ is hardly exciting, in fact totally debilitating. At the moment our 
> >> house doesn't even cool below 30°C at night. The pitched roof houses the 
> >> mines built here are totally unsuited to the Lowveld climate with that 
> >> huge mass of hot air above the ceiling (very nice in "winter", mind you). 
> >> Flat roofed houses like those in the Middle East & Mexico would be much 
> >> better. Unfortunately, Aircons are too expensive to run for hours on end 
> >> so we have to make do with fans. It would probably be better to sleep 
> >> outside under a mosquito net. A couple of good rain storms would help a 
> >> lot but they never seem to get here. Just heard there is a cyclone in the 
> >> Mozambique Channel so we may be lucky yet.
> >>
> >> Alan C
> >>
> >> -Original Message- From: ann sanfedele
> >> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 3:42 PM
> >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> >> Subject: Re: OT: Weather Out of Whack!
> >>
> >> New York is so boring - just normal winter temps -  35° F  (for those of
> >> you who care I researched to find that ALT 248 = °.  I love alt codes)
> >> However, the extra strong wind gusts predicted today may lift us out of
> >> the ordinary..
> >>
> >> some scary stuff in California -
> >>
> >> ann
> >>
> >> On 2/13/2017 2:16 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> >>> Someone I know from the Perth hills in Australia was going to go for a 
> >>> ride the
> >>> other day but:
> >>> http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae266/GU221/fasdegsbn_1.jpg
> >>>
> >>> That's 55degrees Centigrade (131 in Funnymoney) so he decided to wait 
> >>> until
> >>> evening.
> >>>
> >>> Here, it's dead normal February weather. ~0degrees, leaden skies (for 
> >>> weeks,
> >>> seemingly) and perpetual drizzle/sleet.  I think I need vitamin D 
> >>> injections.
> >>>
>  On 13 February 2017 at 02:45 John  wrote:
> 
> 
>  It was 80 deg F here in Raleigh today. That's 5 deg higher than the old
>  record.
> 
>  Normal High temperatures for February are around 54 deg F.
> 
>  Temps are falling off now. It should be 40 deg overnight.
> 
>  By Wednesday they're calling for a high of 52 deg F, more like regular
>  temperatures, but they're also calling for it to be back up to 70 deg F
>  by the weekend.
> 
>  I just don't know what to think.
> >>
> >>
> >
> 
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OT: Weather Out of Whack - a WWII cooler!

2017-02-13 Thread Alan C 
Just for fun I've posted a scan of a crude evaporative fridge (called the 
Bullshitator) from my late Father's WWII snaps. This was taken in Abyssinia 
about 1940. All his war time images were taken with a black Brownie Box 
which I later used to begin my photographic distractions.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/32767741631/

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Alan C

Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 6:26 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Weather Out of Whack!

Paul & PJ, thanks for that.

I know about those & some people here have tried them. Unfortunately they
are better suited to arid, hot areas like the Middle East where
they are built into the flat roofed houses with a small air space above the
ceiling. When used in high humidity , low rainfall places like here they
do have some cooling effect but actually increase the humidity thereby
reducing their own effectiveness. I have seen one here where the evaporative
blinds were actually rotten with mildew. We have experimented with a towel
(with its lower end in a basin of water) draped over a fan, a sort of home
brew evaporative cooler with limited success.

By the middle of March the worst should be over.

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: P. J. Alling

Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 9:47 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Weather Out of Whack!

I've experienced swamp coolers in temperate climates, and they're what
I'd call marginally ineffective.  Better than nothing but not much.  In
a desert they work a bit better but mostly at hydrating the air.  Unless
you have cold water they don't really seem cool anything.


On 2/13/2017 10:28 AM, Paul in MKE wrote:

Alan -

Would a swamp cooler work for you?  Much less expensive to purchase and 
operate compared to conventional A/C.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evaporative_cooler

-p


On 2/13/2017 9:07 AM, Alan C wrote:
40°C+ is hardly exciting, in fact totally debilitating. At the moment our 
house doesn't even cool below 30°C at night. The pitched roof houses the 
mines built here are totally unsuited to the Lowveld climate with that 
huge mass of hot air above the ceiling (very nice in "winter", mind you). 
Flat roofed houses like those in the Middle East & Mexico would be much 
better. Unfortunately, Aircons are too expensive to run for hours on end 
so we have to make do with fans. It would probably be better to sleep 
outside under a mosquito net. A couple of good rain storms would help a 
lot but they never seem to get here. Just heard there is a cyclone in the 
Mozambique Channel so we may be lucky yet.


Alan C

-Original Message- From: ann sanfedele
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 3:42 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: OT: Weather Out of Whack!

New York is so boring - just normal winter temps -  35° F  (for those of
you who care I researched to find that ALT 248 = °.  I love alt codes)
However, the extra strong wind gusts predicted today may lift us out of
the ordinary..

some scary stuff in California -

ann

On 2/13/2017 2:16 AM, mike wilson wrote:
Someone I know from the Perth hills in Australia was going to go for a 
ride the

other day but:
http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae266/GU221/fasdegsbn_1.jpg

That's 55degrees Centigrade (131 in Funnymoney) so he decided to wait 
until

evening.

Here, it's dead normal February weather. ~0degrees, leaden skies (for 
weeks,
seemingly) and perpetual drizzle/sleet.  I think I need vitamin D 
injections.



On 13 February 2017 at 02:45 John  wrote:


It was 80 deg F here in Raleigh today. That's 5 deg higher than the old
record.

Normal High temperatures for February are around 54 deg F.

Temps are falling off now. It should be 40 deg overnight.

By Wednesday they're calling for a high of 52 deg F, more like regular
temperatures, but they're also calling for it to be back up to 70 deg F
by the weekend.

I just don't know what to think.








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