Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)
On Feb 23, 2012, at 8:24 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Bob W p...@web-options.com: Australia has a collection of unpleasant insects and snakes whose sole purpose in life is to kill you, so you probably want to watch out for them. I was wondering when someone was going to mention them, but if John stays away from Canberra he should be OK. They seem to be too busy squabbling among themselves at the moment to pay any attention to foreigners. I must say it's very entertaining from over here. AFAIK you don't need any shots for Australia, unless perhaps you're going northwards into the tropical part where they'll undoubtedly have mosquitoes. I don't think it's possible to immunise against crocodiles, jellyfish, sharks, spiders and snakes. Better make sure you carry an indigestible form of ID so your family can be informed afterwards. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)
Our tour also included Canberra and I would NOT recommend it, particularly if time is precious. I would have MUCH rather had another two days in Melbourne or roving around Sydney than that long slog. Being a fairly recently manufactured capital city, Canberra is far too modern to be interesting (for my tastes). There is a big War Museum there, if you are a military buff, but I don't recall much more terribly beautiful or interesting about the place. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)
A travel/adventure writer, Bill Bryson, has done a series of books including hitchhiking in Europe, through-hiking the Appalachian Trail, and traveling through Australia. I thought the Australia book was a good read. I particularly enjoyed his description of Canberra, and having read it I was spared a shock; Canberra is unlike any other city you are ever likely to visit. I was in Canberra briefly, Sunday evening through Thursday morning, at the tail end of a working trip that included stops in (and PDML meetings in) Adelaide, Melbourne, and Sydney. I think Canberra is worth the trip for the art museum alone, the tour of the Parliament building was an added extra. Don't expect any nightlife! And there is always a time-distance and travel-mode tradeoff; Canberra: a) was built for cars; and b) was situated a long way from Melbourne, Sydney, and anything else of importance in the country. Se getting there and getting around may cost more time than you are willing/able to spend. stan On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:46 AM, John Celio wrote: I know there are a few Aussies here, so I hope you don't mind if I pick your brains for a moment. I'm going to be in Australia this coming May for work, and I'm taking some time after that's done to do some traveling. The work stuff is in Melbourne, and then I'll have lots of time on my own to do whatever I want until my flight home takes off two weeks later from Sydney. I'm planning on backpacking around, staying in hostels and such to keep the costs down, so I'm trying to put together a list of things to see and places to do some photography that are interesting but not too touristy. (Honestly, part of me wants to buy a cheap used bicycle and just bike everywhere, but that may be unrealistic with all the crap I'll probably have to lug around.) Anyway! If you had two weeks to get from Melbourne to Sydney, no car and no one else you had to worry about, where would you go? Also, what's the weather like there in May? Many thanks, John P.S.: This is my first time doing any sort of solo, low-cost traveling like this, so any general traveling tips would be immensely appreciated. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)
Get out of the small states (NSW, Tas Vic) everything is a long way from anything. On 24 February 2012 00:33, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: A travel/adventure writer, Bill Bryson, has done a series of books including hitchhiking in Europe, through-hiking the Appalachian Trail, and traveling through Australia. I thought the Australia book was a good read. I particularly enjoyed his description of Canberra, and having read it I was spared a shock; Canberra is unlike any other city you are ever likely to visit. I was in Canberra briefly, Sunday evening through Thursday morning, at the tail end of a working trip that included stops in (and PDML meetings in) Adelaide, Melbourne, and Sydney. I think Canberra is worth the trip for the art museum alone, the tour of the Parliament building was an added extra. Don't expect any nightlife! And there is always a time-distance and travel-mode tradeoff; Canberra: a) was built for cars; and b) was situated a long way from Melbourne, Sydney, and anything else of importance in the country. Se getting there and getting around may cost more time than you are willing/able to spend. stan On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:46 AM, John Celio wrote: I know there are a few Aussies here, so I hope you don't mind if I pick your brains for a moment. I'm going to be in Australia this coming May for work, and I'm taking some time after that's done to do some traveling. The work stuff is in Melbourne, and then I'll have lots of time on my own to do whatever I want until my flight home takes off two weeks later from Sydney. I'm planning on backpacking around, staying in hostels and such to keep the costs down, so I'm trying to put together a list of things to see and places to do some photography that are interesting but not too touristy. (Honestly, part of me wants to buy a cheap used bicycle and just bike everywhere, but that may be unrealistic with all the crap I'll probably have to lug around.) Anyway! If you had two weeks to get from Melbourne to Sydney, no car and no one else you had to worry about, where would you go? Also, what's the weather like there in May? Many thanks, John P.S.: This is my first time doing any sort of solo, low-cost traveling like this, so any general traveling tips would be immensely appreciated. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)
Watch out for those dingos. Cheers, frank :-) What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com Sent: February 22, 2012 2/22/12 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney) I know there are a few Aussies here, so I hope you don't mind if I pick your brains for a moment. I'm going to be in Australia this coming May for work, and I'm taking some time after that's done to do some traveling. The work stuff is in Melbourne, and then I'll have lots of time on my own to do whatever I want until my flight home takes off two weeks later from Sydney. I'm planning on backpacking around, staying in hostels and such to keep the costs down, so I'm trying to put together a list of things to see and places to do some photography that are interesting but not too touristy. (Honestly, part of me wants to buy a cheap used bicycle and just bike everywhere, but that may be unrealistic with all the crap I'll probably have to lug around.) Anyway! If you had two weeks to get from Melbourne to Sydney, no car and no one else you had to worry about, where would you go? Also, what's the weather like there in May? Many thanks, John P.S.: This is my first time doing any sort of solo, low-cost traveling like this, so any general traveling tips would be immensely appreciated. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)
I'm not from Australia, but I got to visit the same area in 2002 (in May). I was with my daughter and part of a bus tour, so didn't have the freedom to go where we wanted, but got away for some fun. A long drive west of Melbourne is the Twelve Apostles, which was one of the scenery highlights of the trip. (Google it along with Great Ocean Road). Not sure if you will be able to get away that far, but sure worth it. Melbourne is a city that I would love to return to. I'd call it the San Francisco of Australia. Like San Francisco they didn't rip out their street car system which is neat. Very artsy city. (Example, while Sydney's Opera House gets all the press for it's architecture, the Melbourne Opera House surpasses it in acoustics, being built underground (several stories into bedrock, with something like 20 feet of rock between each of the performance theaters). There is also a great open air market in Melbourne. Sydney is a friendly city, considering its size. You can climb the famous Sydney bridge (to the top), take boat tours around the Harbor, etc. The highlight of the trip (for me) was a visit to the historic Sydney Observatory. We were fortunate enough to have clear skies the night we went and I got to observe Omega Centauri (the best globular cluster in our sky and seen only from the Southern Hemisphere) in the historic original refractor still housed in one of the domes. The southern hemisphere has a whole different night sky, if you are into the stars at all. North of Sydney a bit, is the famous Blue Mountains region. May will provide you some autumn colors and mild temps. A great time to visit. Enjoy! Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)
Speaking about the Apostles... Here are some pictures from the Great Ocean Road 190 km west of Melbourne. https://picasaweb.google.com/115638976374047590388/GreatOceanRoad# Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not from Australia, but I got to visit the same area in 2002 (in May). I was with my daughter and part of a bus tour, so didn't have the freedom to go where we wanted, but got away for some fun. A long drive west of Melbourne is the Twelve Apostles, which was one of the scenery highlights of the trip. (Google it along with Great Ocean Road). Not sure if you will be able to get away that far, but sure worth it. Melbourne is a city that I would love to return to. I'd call it the San Francisco of Australia. Like San Francisco they didn't rip out their street car system which is neat. Very artsy city. (Example, while Sydney's Opera House gets all the press for it's architecture, the Melbourne Opera House surpasses it in acoustics, being built underground (several stories into bedrock, with something like 20 feet of rock between each of the performance theaters). There is also a great open air market in Melbourne. Sydney is a friendly city, considering its size. You can climb the famous Sydney bridge (to the top), take boat tours around the Harbor, etc. The highlight of the trip (for me) was a visit to the historic Sydney Observatory. We were fortunate enough to have clear skies the night we went and I got to observe Omega Centauri (the best globular cluster in our sky and seen only from the Southern Hemisphere) in the historic original refractor still housed in one of the domes. The southern hemisphere has a whole different night sky, if you are into the stars at all. North of Sydney a bit, is the famous Blue Mountains region. May will provide you some autumn colors and mild temps. A great time to visit. Enjoy! Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)
I have visited Melbourne frequently and driven around Victoria a lot and NSW a bit. - You can easily spend a day just poking around Melbourne's Victoria Market - Get to the beach! Melbourne's aren't that great, but Victoria's got lots. If you can get down to the bottom right corner of Oz, 90 Mile Beach is outstanding - Mornington Peninsula is beautiful and nice to explore - Eat Italian on Lygon St - Melbourne's a happening place; there's always something going on - Victoria State Library is architecturally magnificent - The neighborhoods (they call them Suburbs, even if they're central) are just charming. Very few are without a decent bakery and a couple of coffee shops On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 5:44 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not from Australia, but I got to visit the same area in 2002 (in May). I was with my daughter and part of a bus tour, so didn't have the freedom to go where we wanted, but got away for some fun. A long drive west of Melbourne is the Twelve Apostles, which was one of the scenery highlights of the trip. (Google it along with Great Ocean Road). Not sure if you will be able to get away that far, but sure worth it. Melbourne is a city that I would love to return to. I'd call it the San Francisco of Australia. Like San Francisco they didn't rip out their street car system which is neat. Very artsy city. (Example, while Sydney's Opera House gets all the press for it's architecture, the Melbourne Opera House surpasses it in acoustics, being built underground (several stories into bedrock, with something like 20 feet of rock between each of the performance theaters). There is also a great open air market in Melbourne. Sydney is a friendly city, considering its size. You can climb the famous Sydney bridge (to the top), take boat tours around the Harbor, etc. The highlight of the trip (for me) was a visit to the historic Sydney Observatory. We were fortunate enough to have clear skies the night we went and I got to observe Omega Centauri (the best globular cluster in our sky and seen only from the Southern Hemisphere) in the historic original refractor still housed in one of the domes. The southern hemisphere has a whole different night sky, if you are into the stars at all. North of Sydney a bit, is the famous Blue Mountains region. May will provide you some autumn colors and mild temps. A great time to visit. Enjoy! Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)
It's a bit of a hike by bike, but the Blue Mountains and the Three Sisters area is very scenic and worth the trip. We took a bus trip and it was at least an hour each way (outside Sydney). I couldn't tell you what that'd equate to biking. On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 12:46 AM, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote: I know there are a few Aussies here, so I hope you don't mind if I pick your brains for a moment. I'm going to be in Australia this coming May for work, and I'm taking some time after that's done to do some traveling. The work stuff is in Melbourne, and then I'll have lots of time on my own to do whatever I want until my flight home takes off two weeks later from Sydney. I'm planning on backpacking around, staying in hostels and such to keep the costs down, so I'm trying to put together a list of things to see and places to do some photography that are interesting but not too touristy. (Honestly, part of me wants to buy a cheap used bicycle and just bike everywhere, but that may be unrealistic with all the crap I'll probably have to lug around.) Anyway! If you had two weeks to get from Melbourne to Sydney, no car and no one else you had to worry about, where would you go? Also, what's the weather like there in May? Many thanks, John P.S.: This is my first time doing any sort of solo, low-cost traveling like this, so any general traveling tips would be immensely appreciated. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)
Sorry I haven't have a chance to reply sooner. Thanks to everyone who has commented so far. Lots of good info; I'm making a list of everything I might be able to use for preparing and while I'm there. Brian Walters wrote: May is a good time to visit Victoria and New South Wales. The weather is generally excellent for travelling. Temperatures would be in the high teens- low 20s (Celsius) in lowland/coastal areas - a bit cooler if you get into the alpine areas but it wont be freezing. May is also good because I'm fairly sure it's within the school term period for both Vic and NSW, so accommodation shouldn't be a problem. Very glad to hear this. I was worried it'd be rainy or cold since it's so far south, but it sounds like I could get by with a sweatshirt and a light jacket Melbourne to Sydney is about 880 km by the shortest route and about 1100 by the coast. I'm not sure I'd want to tackle that in two weeks by bicycle but that's me... Well, it'd be bicycle + bus/train for longer stretches. I bike everywhere these days, so the idea of long distances isn't too daunting. Anyway I've done quite a bit of touring in Vic and NSW (and I'm sure others have too) so I can probably suggest places to visit but first I think you should decide how you want to get around because that will pretty much determine what places are practical - you might be restricted to defined coach/train routes. That's the tough part. I have no idea what's around. I figure I'll spend a few days in Melbourne exploring after my work obligations are done, and I'll spend a few days (or more) in Sydney at the end, but it's the in-between space that I have no clue about. I know there are easy ways to go straight from one city to the other, but I'd like to see the Australian countryside and smaller towns. A friend of mine keeps pushing me to go to Tasmania for a couple days, but I don't do well on choppy seas (I get seasick super easily). Say, is it worth swinging through Canberra at all? I know it's the capital, but the few people I've asked say it's extremely boring. As far as accommodation goes, there are backpackers hostels in most major towns. So far I've found a lot of good hostel options for the cities. I haven't looked for places in between because I don't know my route yet, but I figure it shouldn't be too hard to find something. I'm also considering signing up with couchsurfing.org and seeing if I can find places to stay for a night along the way. David Mann wrote: but I don't think they ever allowed you to take a holiday after the work was done because of the travel insurance arrangements. So make sure you're covered. I made sure and double sure this was okay. Apparently my organization lets people do this pretty frequently, which means I'll get to take a neat vacation like this almost every year (though not two weeks every time) when we have our big international event. Bob W wrote: [a lot of really good advice] Thanks Bob, that's a lot of stuff I never would have thought of (especially the rule of 3). Regarding clothes, do you just have to keep an eye out for a laundromat every few days, or are there some tricks to cleaning things along the way that might be helpful? Also, since you've been around the world, are there any immunization shots I should think about getting before this trip? Knarf wrote: Watch out for those dingos. It's alright, I'm not bringing any babies along. Darren Addy wrote: Great Ocean Road I've heard of this and seen photos, and I definitely want to try to get down there. Melbourne Opera House Now that sounds like something I'll have to see (and hear). a visit to the historic Sydney Observatory I LOVE astronomy, so I am DEFINITELY going to have to see this. Thanks for the tips!! Tim Bray wrote: [some really great points on places to go in Melbourne] Oh man, those all sound awesome. You and Darren both mentioned architecture, which is an interest of mine, so I'm glad to know a few places to check out. Thanks everyone! This is some great stuff for me to start with. I can hardly wait to be there! John P.S.: I hear Australia is a better place for beer wine than liquor, so I may have to pass on the gin. ;) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)
On Feb 23, 2012, at 5:32 PM, John Celio wrote: P.S.: I hear Australia is a better place for beer wine than liquor, so I may have to pass on the gin. ;) Make sure you study up on the correct lingo for the areas you'll be visiting :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_in_Australia#Sizes Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 8:32 PM, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote: Say, is it worth swinging through Canberra at all? I know it's the capital, but the few people I've asked say it's extremely boring. I’d say yes. The big National Art Museum has some fabulous stuff, both Northern Hemisphere (maybe my fave Jackson Pollock anywhere) and of course astonishing Aboriginal work. And the Parliament building is like nothing else on earth. Both my wife and I have had real issues, professionally, with Canberra people, but you won't be there to work. -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)
[...] Thanks Bob, that's a lot of stuff I never would have thought of (especially the rule of 3). Regarding clothes, do you just have to keep an eye out for a laundromat every few days, or are there some tricks to cleaning things along the way that might be helpful? Do the shower stomp. Wash your clothes while you're showering, and leave them to dry overnight. Also, since you've been around the world, are there any immunization shots I should think about getting before this trip? Not that I'm aware of, but you should take professional advice. I think the thing gets most people is the change of drinking water. Every country's drinking water seems to contain its own set of microbes, so until your stomach is used to it you might end up with a touch of the trots. The cure for this is to book a room in the Lake Tana Hotel, Bahir Dar, Ethiopia, and clean your teeth in your room without bothering to look at the water and thereby learn that it comes straight out of the lake. The ensuing 10 days will be a feverish hell of explosive you-know-what, but forever after your stomach will be immune to everything. If you live. Australia has a collection of unpleasant insects and snakes whose sole purpose in life is to kill you, so you probably want to watch out for them. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)
Quoting Bob W p...@web-options.com: [...]\ Australia has a collection of unpleasant insects and snakes whose sole purpose in life is to kill you, so you probably want to watch out for them. I was wondering when someone was going to mention them, but if John stays away from Canberra he should be OK. Oh, you were talking about the actual wildlife. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)
I know there are a few Aussies here, so I hope you don't mind if I pick your brains for a moment. I'm going to be in Australia this coming May for work, and I'm taking some time after that's done to do some traveling. The work stuff is in Melbourne, and then I'll have lots of time on my own to do whatever I want until my flight home takes off two weeks later from Sydney. I'm planning on backpacking around, staying in hostels and such to keep the costs down, so I'm trying to put together a list of things to see and places to do some photography that are interesting but not too touristy. (Honestly, part of me wants to buy a cheap used bicycle and just bike everywhere, but that may be unrealistic with all the crap I'll probably have to lug around.) Anyway! If you had two weeks to get from Melbourne to Sydney, no car and no one else you had to worry about, where would you go? Also, what's the weather like there in May? Many thanks, John P.S.: This is my first time doing any sort of solo, low-cost traveling like this, so any general traveling tips would be immensely appreciated. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)
G'day John May is a good time to visit Victoria and New South Wales. The weather is generally excellent for travelling. Temperatures would be in the high teens- low 20s (Celsius) in lowland/coastal areas - a bit cooler if you get into the alpine areas but it wont be freezing. May is also good because I'm fairly sure it's within the school term period for both Vic and NSW, so accommodation shouldn't be a problem. Melbourne to Sydney is about 880 km by the shortest route and about 1100 by the coast. I'm not sure I'd want to tackle that in two weeks by bicycle but that's me... Anyway I've done quite a bit of touring in Vic and NSW (and I'm sure others have too) so I can probably suggest places to visit but first I think you should decide how you want to get around because that will pretty much determine what places are practical - you might be restricted to defined coach/train routes. As far as accommodation goes, there are backpackers hostels in most major towns. Here's a link to check out: http://www.yha.com.au/ Other cheap accommodation is available using on-site vans at caravan parks, which are everywhere. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ Quoting John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com: I know there are a few Aussies here, so I hope you don't mind if I pick your brains for a moment. I'm going to be in Australia this coming May for work, and I'm taking some time after that's done to do some traveling. The work stuff is in Melbourne, and then I'll have lots of time on my own to do whatever I want until my flight home takes off two weeks later from Sydney. I'm planning on backpacking around, staying in hostels and such to keep the costs down, so I'm trying to put together a list of things to see and places to do some photography that are interesting but not too touristy. (Honestly, part of me wants to buy a cheap used bicycle and just bike everywhere, but that may be unrealistic with all the crap I'll probably have to lug around.) Anyway! If you had two weeks to get from Melbourne to Sydney, no car and no one else you had to worry about, where would you go? Also, what's the weather like there in May? Many thanks, John P.S.: This is my first time doing any sort of solo, low-cost traveling like this, so any general traveling tips would be immensely appreciated. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)
On Feb 22, 2012, at 6:46 PM, John Celio wrote: I'm going to be in Australia this coming May for work, and I'm taking some time after that's done to do some traveling. The work stuff is in Melbourne, and then I'll have lots of time on my own to do whatever I want until my flight home takes off two weeks later from Sydney. I used to work in a company where some of the staff got to travel a bit but I don't think they ever allowed you to take a holiday after the work was done because of the travel insurance arrangements. So make sure you're covered. Anyway! If you had two weeks to get from Melbourne to Sydney, no car and no one else you had to worry about, where would you go? Also, what's the weather like there in May? Go the long way, via Perth, Darwin and Brisbane :) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.