Vs: OT - Voigtlander Bessa R
I have only used 2 Voigtländer lenses - 4.5/15 mm and 1.7/35 mm - and they are good. The R body seems to be priced at about 900 USD - cheap only when compared with Leica. The camera and lenses are indeed made by Cosina in Japan. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 24. joulukuuta 2001 5:13 Aihe: OT - Voigtlander Bessa R A month or two ago, I recall some discussion here about whether Pentax should consider marketing an upgraded Spotmatic - a sort of limited edition high-quality metal-bodied all-mechanical. Love my Spotmatics though I do, I think I poo-pooed the idea as something that Pentax would never do, thinking that there would be no market for it, and it would be too expensive to be worth doing. I just noticed the Voigtlander Bessa R. A rangefinder with a metal body, all mechanical with led ttl metering, takes Leica (L mount) screwmount lenses (for goodness sake!). I think they're made in Japan by Cosina. I'm very interested! Anyone out there have any experience with them? Anyone know how much they cost? Thanks and regards, frank This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT - Voigtlander Bessa R
Mine reminds me of a P30, minus the plastic film advance leaver. The most of the MZ series would have less metal, but in my opinion they still feel better built. Regards, Paul - Original Message - From: Raimo Korhonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 1:34 AM Subject: Vs: OT - Voigtlander Bessa R The body is not plastic - chassis is aluminium alloy, only outer panels are plastic. More metal that current Pentaxes have, except MZ-S I suppose. The noise is not bad IMHO. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 21. joulukuuta 2001 0:47 Aihe: Re: OT - Voigtlander Bessa R Hi, tom, Bob and Paul, snip Turns out the body's plastic (a camera shop selling them steered me wrong). They also seem to have variable quality from sample to sample, as some have found them quite noisy for a rangefinder, while others haven't. snip regards, frank - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Vs: OT - Voigtlander Bessa R
The body is not plastic - chassis is aluminium alloy, only outer panels are plastic. More metal that current Pentaxes have, except MZ-S I suppose. The noise is not bad IMHO. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 21. joulukuuta 2001 0:47 Aihe: Re: OT - Voigtlander Bessa R Hi, tom, Bob and Paul, snip Turns out the body's plastic (a camera shop selling them steered me wrong). They also seem to have variable quality from sample to sample, as some have found them quite noisy for a rangefinder, while others haven't. snip regards, frank - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT - Voigtlander Bessa R
frank theriault wrote: I just noticed the Voigtlander Bessa R. A rangefinder with a metal body, all mechanical with led ttl metering, takes Leica (L mount) screwmount lenses (for goodness sake!). I think they're made in Japan by Cosina. I'm very interested! Anyone out there have any experience with them? Anyone know how much they cost? I'm borrowing a friend's at the moment. - They're pretty cheap, check B+H. - They've released *really* inexpensive 15mm and 12mm lenses. - It may be all metal, but it doesn't feel all that solid. The lenses, otoh, do feel nice. - I find the shutter speed dial to be clumsy, but maybe I haven't found the trick to it. - I can't say I'm a big fan of the led metering. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT - Voigtlander Bessa R
Hi, tom, Bob and Paul, Thanks for your responses. I surfed around the web a bit last night, and much of what you three said was confirmed in various reviews. Turns out the body's plastic (a camera shop selling them steered me wrong). They also seem to have variable quality from sample to sample, as some have found them quite noisy for a rangefinder, while others haven't. And the lenses have been almost universally praised (plus, I guess, you can stick old Leica screwmounts on them if you want/can afford to). I've seen them for not too much on eBay, but from the sounds of it, I'll want to hold one in my hands before I buy, or at least get a money back warranty if I buy on on-line - on second thought, that might be a PIA... Anyway, it seems like an interesting camera. Thanks again to all who responded. regards, frank tom wrote: I'm borrowing a friend's at the moment. - They're pretty cheap, check B+H. - They've released *really* inexpensive 15mm and 12mm lenses. - It may be all metal, but it doesn't feel all that solid. The lenses, otoh, do feel nice. - I find the shutter speed dial to be clumsy, but maybe I haven't found the trick to it. - I can't say I'm a big fan of the led metering. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT - Voigtlander Bessa R
A month or two ago, I recall some discussion here about whether Pentax should consider marketing an upgraded Spotmatic - a sort of limited edition high-quality metal-bodied all-mechanical. Love my Spotmatics though I do, I think I poo-pooed the idea as something that Pentax would never do, thinking that there would be no market for it, and it would be too expensive to be worth doing. I just noticed the Voigtlander Bessa R. A rangefinder with a metal body, all mechanical with led ttl metering, takes Leica (L mount) screwmount lenses (for goodness sake!). I think they're made in Japan by Cosina. I'm very interested! Anyone out there have any experience with them? Anyone know how much they cost? Thanks and regards, frank -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT - Voigtlander Bessa R
Hi, I've had one for a few weeks now. I quite like it, although its taking some getting used to. I didnt have the money to spring for an M6, nor was i really prepared to, until i had used an RF for a while. The metering display is quite different and also took some getting used too, i would have actualy preferred a match needle system like the Spotmatic, but illuminated. Its built on a Metal Chassi, but the external paneling is plastic. The viewfinder is as bright as the M6, plus it doesn't suffer from as much flair as the M6. Meter is very accurate and is a centre weighted and very concentrated, it has a 17% coverage. The viewfinder is significantly better than squinty one on the Hexar. Yep made by cosina. The shutter is not and quiet as an M6, but significantly quiter than my Pentax SLR's I use mine with a Leitz 50/1.5 Summarit lense. Any more questions then feel free to ask. Paul - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 2:52 PM Subject: OT - Voigtlander Bessa R A month or two ago, I recall some discussion here about whether Pentax should consider marketing an upgraded Spotmatic - a sort of limited edition high-quality metal-bodied all-mechanical. Love my Spotmatics though I do, I think I poo-pooed the idea as something that Pentax would never do, thinking that there would be no market for it, and it would be too expensive to be worth doing. I just noticed the Voigtlander Bessa R. A rangefinder with a metal body, all mechanical with led ttl metering, takes Leica (L mount) screwmount lenses (for goodness sake!). I think they're made in Japan by Cosina. I'm very interested! Anyone out there have any experience with them? Anyone know how much they cost? Thanks and regards, frank -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
