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Re: OT We are not alone anymore

2012-04-12 Thread Bruce Walker

Apple's latest Java update removes this virus/trojan:

APPLE-SA-2012-04-12-1 Java for OS X 2012-003 and Java for Mac OS X 10.6 Update 8

Run Software Update if it hasn't appeared yet.


On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>
> Not meaning to squelch groundless speculation or toss water on any
> potential flamefests, but here's some actually useful info.
>
> The virus arrives courtesy of Java, a 3rd-party product, and infected
> websites. It relies completely on social engineering to infect your
> Mac -- you have to be fooled into installing a fake Adobe Flash Player
> update.
>
> http://allthingsd.com/20120406/whats-this-a-mac-virus-no-actually-its-a-weakness-in-java/
>
> https://www.securelist.com/en/blog/208193441/Flashfake_Mac_OS_X_botnet_confirmed
>
> You should run Software Updater to get a new version of Java that
> avoids this thing. Apple released that update a couple of days ago.
>
> If you managed to become infected in the meanwhile, read this ...
>
> http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/trojan-downloader_osx_flashback_i.shtml
>
> ... or wait for Apple's promised Flashback remover that is reported to
> be in the works.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 10:21 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> >
> >
> > http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/mac-users-should-fear-viruses-more-widespread-attacks-likely-coming-experts-146861715.html
> >
> > Kinda scary, if anyone is jumping on any AV software bandwagons, let me
> > know.
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Re: OT We are not alone anymore

2012-04-12 Thread steve harley


on 2012-04-11 8:21 David J Brooks wrote

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/mac-users-should-fear-viruses-more-widespread-attacks-likely-coming-experts-146861715.html


fwiw this is not a virus, it is a Trojan horse; users have to be fooled into 
thinking they are installing a Flash update, and then give it permission by 
entering their login password; not that a real virus is impossible



Kinda scary, if anyone is jumping on any AV software bandwagons, let me know.


big Apple mistake not to patch its Java sooner, but there are so many people 
who never update their computers, it might not matter; i would recommend having 
Java in the browser off anyway, and take a breath and think whenever you 
install something


i also recommend Little Snitch, which incidentally causes this particular 
Trojan attack to delete itself




if you want anti-virus for Mac, the one i've heard the best things about is 
ClamXAV



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Re: OT We are not alone anymore

2012-04-11 Thread Bruce Walker

Not meaning to squelch groundless speculation or toss water on any
potential flamefests, but here's some actually useful info.

The virus arrives courtesy of Java, a 3rd-party product, and infected
websites. It relies completely on social engineering to infect your
Mac -- you have to be fooled into installing a fake Adobe Flash Player
update.

http://allthingsd.com/20120406/whats-this-a-mac-virus-no-actually-its-a-weakness-in-java/

https://www.securelist.com/en/blog/208193441/Flashfake_Mac_OS_X_botnet_confirmed

You should run Software Updater to get a new version of Java that
avoids this thing. Apple released that update a couple of days ago.

If you managed to become infected in the meanwhile, read this ...

http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/trojan-downloader_osx_flashback_i.shtml

... or wait for Apple's promised Flashback remover that is reported to
be in the works.

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 10:21 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>
>
> http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/mac-users-should-fear-viruses-more-widespread-attacks-likely-coming-experts-146861715.html
>
> Kinda scary, if anyone is jumping on any AV software bandwagons, let me
> know.
>
> Dave
>
> --
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> www.caughtinmotion.com
> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
> York Region, Ontario, Canada
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Re: OT We are not alone anymore

2012-04-11 Thread David Parsons

That's because Apple was never a big enough market to warrant writing
viruses for them.  It had nothing to do with the specific hardware
that Apple decided to use.

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 2:07 PM, jn289  wrote:
> I have never had a virus on any of my seven powerpc macs that do not use the
> intell platform.  I am writing this on a G5 powerPc  non intell
> platform..Joe
>
>
>
>
>> Right.  Are you interested in a bridge, or perhaps some swamp land?
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:51 PM, jn289  wrote:
>>>
>>>  This is because Apple went to the Intell platform. Older Macs do not get
>>>  this. PowerPc macs are still safe...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
  It was only a matter of time.

  On 4/11/2012 10:21 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
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>
>
>
>
> http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/mac-users-should-fear-viruses-more-widespread-attacks-likely-coming-experts-146861715.html
>
>  Kinda scary, if anyone is jumping on any AV software bandwagons, let
> me
>  know.
>
>  Dave
>


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Re: OT We are not alone anymore

2012-04-11 Thread jn289

I have never had a virus on any of my seven powerpc macs that do not
use the intell platform. I am writing this on a G5 powerPc non
intell platform..Joe

Right. Are you interested in a bridge, or perhaps some swamp land?

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:51 PM, jn289 wrote:

This is because Apple went to the Intell platform. Older Macs do not get
this. PowerPc macs are still safe...

It was only a matter of time.

On 4/11/2012 10:21 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/mac-users-should-fear-viruses-more-widespread-attacks-likely-coming-experts-146861715.html

Kinda scary, if anyone is jumping on any AV software bandwagons, let me
know.

Dave

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Re: OT We are not alone anymore

2012-04-11 Thread David Parsons

Right.  Are you interested in a bridge, or perhaps some swamp land?

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:51 PM, jn289  wrote:
> This is because Apple went to the Intell platform. Older Macs do not get
> this. PowerPc macs are still safe...
>
>
>
>
>
>> It was only a matter of time.
>>
>> On 4/11/2012 10:21 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/mac-users-should-fear-viruses-more-widespread-attacks-likely-coming-experts-146861715.html
>>>
>>> Kinda scary, if anyone is jumping on any AV software bandwagons, let me
>>> know.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>
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Re: OT We are not alone anymore

2012-04-11 Thread P. J. Alling

Nothing about Intel hardware makes the OS less secure.  There are plenty 
of holes in POSIX compliant operating systems,  I'll bet that the new 
Mac Virus takes advantage of one of them.  The security holes in Windows 
were usually available everywhere, and POSIX is an optional subsystem 
AFICR on NT systems so it's not a sure method of entry.  Hardware is as 
secure or insecure as the OS that runs on it.


On 4/11/2012 12:51 PM, jn289 wrote:
This is because Apple went to the Intell platform. Older Macs do not 
get this. PowerPc macs are still safe...






It was only a matter of time.

On 4/11/2012 10:21 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/mac-users-should-fear-viruses-more-widespread-attacks-likely-coming-experts-146861715.html 



Kinda scary, if anyone is jumping on any AV software bandwagons, let 
me know.


Dave




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Re: OT We are not alone anymore

2012-04-11 Thread jn289

This is because Apple went to the Intell platform. Older Macs do not 
get this. PowerPc macs are still safe...






It was only a matter of time.

On 4/11/2012 10:21 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/mac-users-should-fear-viruses-more-widespread-attacks-likely-coming-experts-146861715.html

Kinda scary, if anyone is jumping on any AV software bandwagons, let me know.

Dave




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Re: OT We are not alone anymore

2012-04-11 Thread P. J. Alling


It was only a matter of time.

On 4/11/2012 10:21 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/mac-users-should-fear-viruses-more-widespread-attacks-likely-coming-experts-146861715.html

Kinda scary, if anyone is jumping on any AV software bandwagons, let me know.

Dave




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