OT travel advise for the kids
My daughter and son in law are planning a trip to London, Paris and Normandy in the fall. Its been 40 years since i was in London, stayed at Bayswater and Queensway at a small hotel that i forget the name of. The plan on a few days in London, then off to Paris, then off to Normandy. I went to the museums in London, and Piccadilly Circus area but i'm sure things have changed, Any advise, things to see for the first time European travelers, with a 10 month old Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT travel advise for the kids
David, we did this route recently. We started of from Rome, Paris and London via the channel tunnel. Please ensure there is a parasol or a rain proof sheet for the baby's pram because of the perennial rains in London. Must see:- London - the millenium wheel (London Eye), Buckingham Palace changing of the guards, Madam Tussaud's Wax Museum, British Museum, Tower Bridge & Trafalgar Square. Paris: the Louvre (Mona Lisa) , Arc de Triomphe, Place de La Concorde, Eiffel Tower, Cruise on the River Seine, Montmartre Hills, Grand Palais des Champs Élysées. Normandy - ?? Did not visit. We did the group tour through Thomas Cook and they had it organized all 4-star including the hotels, meals, all entry tickets, train bus and air tickets, pro Guides at all the places. Best of all were the friendly people and safety in a group. We were given plenty of time, never rushed or felt tired. We would leave at 8 AM after breakfast and return by 8 PM to the hotel. There were some late night shows after dinner for people who felt like going out for some extra fun, like the Eiffel Tower by night. The lighting was awesome. In Rome we saw quite some thuggery and Passport stealing, so one has to be careful in Europe. Look out for Starbucks, for the coffee in most European Restaurants are cold and insipid. Ha ha! Free use of toilets too. Be prepared to pay at least 2 Euros for using Rest Rooms. Ensure they have medical and accident coverage please. Good luck to your daughter, son in law and the baby. Regards. Bipin. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT travel advise for the kids
Hello Dan, Steve & Cotty Sir, we were in London end August for 3 nights and 4 days on a Thomas Cook group tour. Towards evening around 5 PM it would start drizzling or pouring every day. Our sad luck I suppose, but we beat the bad weather as we had very good quality Israeli light weight wind + rain cheaters. Actually rain is not a big deal for us, being familiar with the heavy monsoon rains here in Bangalore India. But for a little Baby 10 months old it could be a bother. We spent quite some time in the Middle East where we are used to mostly dry spells. But come November & December with some rain, and you will see plenty of car accidents / pile ups. Expatriates like us chose tyres carefully - half sand & half wet weather tread patterns, and we drove with caution of course with lights on. Regards. Bipin. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT travel advise for the kids
On 12/07/2015 11:41 AM, David J Brooks wrote: My daughter and son in law are planning a trip to London, Paris and Normandy in the fall. Its been 40 years since i was in London, stayed at Bayswater and Queensway at a small hotel that i forget the name of. The plan on a few days in London, then off to Paris, then off to Normandy. I went to the museums in London, and Piccadilly Circus area but i'm sure things have changed, Any advise, things to see for the first time European travelers, with a 10 month old Dave I'd be looking for a long term day care. The 10 month old won't really care, but he will certainly get in the way of the parent's enjoying themselves. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Bill wrote: > On 12/07/2015 11:41 AM, David J Brooks wrote: >> >> My daughter and son in law are planning a trip to London, Paris and >> Normandy in the fall. Its been 40 years since i was in London, stayed >> at Bayswater and Queensway at a small hotel that i forget the name of. >> The plan on a few days in London, then off to Paris, then off to >> Normandy. >> >> I went to the museums in London, and Piccadilly Circus area but i'm >> sure things have changed, >> >> Any advise, things to see for the first time European travelers, with >> a 10 month old >> >> Dave >> > > I'd be looking for a long term day care. The 10 month old won't really care, > but he will certainly get in the way of the parent's enjoying themselves. Voice our concern over this, but, apparently this is the way things are done now. Dave > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well, if they haven't been to Yurp before, and assuming they are not experienced travellers in general, I'd suggest the line of least resistance, which is to follow the well-beaten tourist trail but geared towards their particular interests as far as possible. So in London I'd suggest the Tower, an open-topped bus tour (great even for old hands), Greenwich, Somerset House (and the Courtauld Gallery) - if the weather's warm, the fountains are on, and the baby has started to walk, then the courtyard is great for kids to play in the fountain, but take dry clothing. Hampton Court, Kew Gardens, a river trip from Greenwich to Kew is excellent. There are numerous Royal Parks which are beautiful in the sunshine, so a trip to Trafalgar Square and the National Gallery followed by a walk along Whitehall to Horseguards, then into Saint James's Park and the Mall to Buckingham Palace and tea with HMQ. The lights in Piccadilly Circus are ok at twilight, but otherwise it's just a tourist trap, although a meal at the Criterion is an enjoyable experience. In the same area, and connecting with the Mall etc., a walk along Jermyn Street to St James's Palace, tea at Fortnum & Mason or the Ritz, a visit to the Royal Academy and a walk up Burlington Arcade. Soho is well worth exploring, starting at Carnaby Street, getting lost and finishing at Old Compton Street - loads of interesting eateries around there. Camden Lock, the canal and the Regent's Park are all interesting - the zoo is in the park, if you approve of such things. Around Farringdon and Clerkenwell is very interesting. There's a great market on Leather Lane, and another which is superb at lunchtime at Exmouth Market. There's also Columbia Road flower market, Brick Lane and Bethnal Green road, which are gfeeat at weekends, and Whitechapel Art Gallery to escape to (it's also Jack the Ripper and Kray twins territory...). It's endless, really. I've been here for over 30 years and still finding new and interesting places. Paris is the same. To some extent it's easier to tell you what to avoid, such as the rip-off joints around the Champs Élysées. When I go I try to stay in a couple of hotels on the rue Madame, near the Jardin du Luxembourg - depending on whether the exchange rate is for or against me. If you forego the hotel breakfast you can have breakfast in the lovely little Cafe Fleurus, rue de Fleurus, where Gertrude Stein and Alice B Toklas entertained the likes of Hemingway, Picasso and others, then start the day in the Jardin du Luxembourg. The area around the JdL is full of interest, and it's easy to go from there to Saint Germain des Pres and the Latin Quarter. The usual tourist haunts such as the Eiffel Tower, the Louvre, bateaux mouches, Notre Dame, but also places like the rue Mouffetard, the mosque, numerous markets. A walk along the Canal Saint Martin is enjoyable. The Pompidou Centre is good - the rooftop restaurant is enjoyable in the sunshine. Montmartre is simultaneously overcrowded, overrated and under-explored. Try to get off the beaten track around there - I quite like some of the rougher areas to the east of Montmartre around Barbes, but they're not to everyone's taste. I also like the area around Buttes Chaumont, Belleville and the walk to Pere Lachaise. Finally, and a bit more upmarket, I like two more of the 'English' parks - Parc Monceau and Parc de Montsouris, which is not far from the catacombs and rue Daguerre. I don't know Normandy very well, even though I cycled through it from Caen last month. I spent a couple of weeks in Rouen a few years ago, and really liked it and thoroughly rommend it. Hope that helps, B > On 12 Jul 2015, at 18:42, David J Brooks wrote: > > My daughter and son in law are planning a trip to London, Paris and > Normandy in the fall. Its been 40 years since i was in London, stayed > at Bayswater and Queensway at a small hotel that i forget the name of. > The plan on a few days in London, then off to Paris, then off to > Normandy. > > I went to the museums in London, and Piccadilly Circus area but i'm > sure things have changed, > > Any advise, things to see for the first time European travelers, with > a 10 month old > > Dave > > -- > Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > York Region, Ontario, Canada > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 12/7/15, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: >Any advise, things to see for the first time European travelers, with >a 10 month old The best part of travelling with a 10 month old (been there done that) is you get rushed through all travel straight to the front of long lines for things like planes and passports etc. The worst part: everything else. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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thanks for the tips Dave On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 4:34 AM, Bipin Gupta wrote: > David, we did this route recently. We started of from Rome, Paris and > London via the channel tunnel. Please ensure there is a parasol or a > rain proof sheet for the baby's pram because of the perennial rains in > London. > > Must see:- London - the millenium wheel (London Eye), Buckingham > Palace changing of the guards, Madam Tussaud's Wax Museum, British > Museum, Tower Bridge & Trafalgar Square. > > Paris: the Louvre (Mona Lisa) , Arc de Triomphe, Place de La Concorde, > Eiffel Tower, Cruise on the River Seine, Montmartre Hills, Grand > Palais des Champs Élysées. > Normandy - ?? Did not visit. > > We did the group tour through Thomas Cook and they had it organized > all 4-star including the hotels, meals, all entry tickets, train bus > and air tickets, pro Guides at all the places. Best of all were the > friendly people and safety in a group. We were given plenty of time, > never rushed or felt tired. We would leave at 8 AM after breakfast and > return by 8 PM to the hotel. > There were some late night shows after dinner for people who felt like > going out for some extra fun, like the Eiffel Tower by night. The > lighting was awesome. > > In Rome we saw quite some thuggery and Passport stealing, so one has > to be careful in Europe. > Look out for Starbucks, for the coffee in most European Restaurants > are cold and insipid. Ha ha! Free use of toilets too. Be prepared to > pay at least 2 Euros for using Rest Rooms. > > Ensure they have medical and accident coverage please. > > Good luck to your daughter, son in law and the baby. > > Regards. > Bipin. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT travel advise for the kids
On 13/7/15, Bipin Gupta, discombobulated, unleashed: >Please ensure there is a parasol or a >rain proof sheet for the baby's pram because of the perennial rains in >London. Literally falling off my chair laughing. Holy mackerel -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 13, 2015, at 5:34 AM, David J Brooks wrote: > > thanks for the tips > > Dave > >> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 4:34 AM, Bipin Gupta wrote: >> David, we did this route recently. We started of from Rome, Paris and >> London via the channel tunnel. Please ensure there is a parasol or a >> rain proof sheet for the baby's pram because of the perennial rains in >> London. >> >> Must see:- London - the millenium wheel (London Eye), Buckingham >> Palace changing of the guards, Madam Tussaud's Wax Museum, British >> Museum, Tower Bridge & Trafalgar Square. >> >> Paris: the Louvre (Mona Lisa) , Arc de Triomphe, Place de La Concorde, >> Eiffel Tower, Cruise on the River Seine, Montmartre Hills, Grand >> Palais des Champs Élysées. >> Normandy - ?? Did not visit. >> >> We did the group tour through Thomas Cook and they had it organized >> all 4-star including the hotels, meals, all entry tickets, train bus >> and air tickets, pro Guides at all the places. Best of all were the >> friendly people and safety in a group. We were given plenty of time, >> never rushed or felt tired. We would leave at 8 AM after breakfast and >> return by 8 PM to the hotel. >> There were some late night shows after dinner for people who felt like >> going out for some extra fun, like the Eiffel Tower by night. The >> lighting was awesome. >> >> In Rome we saw quite some thuggery and Passport stealing, so one has >> to be careful in Europe. >> Look out for Starbucks, for the coffee in most European Restaurants >> are cold and insipid. Ha ha! Free use of toilets too. Be prepared to >> pay at least 2 Euros for using Rest Rooms. >> >> Ensure they have medical and accident coverage please. >> >> Good luck to your daughter, son in law and the baby. >> >> Regards. >> Bipin. >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > > -- > Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > York Region, Ontario, Canada > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 13 Jul 2015, at 18:53, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > On 13/7/15, Bipin Gupta, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> Please ensure there is a parasol or a >> rain proof sheet for the baby's pram because of the perennial rains in >> London. > > Literally falling off my chair laughing. > > Holy mackerel "Despite its reputation as being a rainy city, London receives less precipitation (601 mm (24 in) in a year), than Rome, Bordeaux, Toulouse, Naples and even Sydney in Australia" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/London#Climate B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Just because it may not be raining doesn't mean the weather is actually nice. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > On 13 Jul 2015, at 18:53, Steve Cottrell wrote: >> >> On 13/7/15, Bipin Gupta, discombobulated, unleashed: >> >>> Please ensure there is a parasol or a >>> rain proof sheet for the baby's pram because of the perennial rains in >>> London. >> >> Literally falling off my chair laughing. >> >> Holy mackerel > > "Despite its reputation as being a rainy city, London receives less > precipitation (601 mm (24 in) in a year), than Rome, Bordeaux, Toulouse, > Naples and even Sydney in Australia" > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/London#Climate > > B > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
