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That phone just looks plain lonely.:-) Like the contrasting walls. Dave > Seems that there's an emerging series of payphone photos. I know it's > tilted. I like it that way. > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3492681&size=lg > > Comments welcome (as always). > > cheers, > frank > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson >
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Rule (follow at your own risk): A little bit of tilt looks like poor photography. A lot of tilt looks intentional. I personally have a bit of a problem holding a camera level, but I do not have any problem with a bit of rotate and crop. In fact I usually plan on it when taking the photo and leave a bit of cropping room. Also I often compose 35mm with the plan of cropping one end or the other of the negative to fit an 8x10 print (the grid screen helps there). Although Knarf's actual problem is that he is so tall that he is often short of oxygen up there and thus dizzy... graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- frank theriault wrote: On 6/28/05, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is straightness a bourgeois concept too? It may be. I tend to think of it more in terms of existential absurdity, however... cheers, frank -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.7/34 - Release Date: 6/29/2005
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On 29 Jun 2005 at 7:53, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > It seems that there's far more that can be done with transform than could > ever be done with the crop tool, David. I'm just now learning about its > potential since Sonny mentioned it (spent all of about 30 minutes with it), so > I'm far from a maven. Are you familiar with all that transform can do? I have a small tutorial on my web site, it's aging a little but it may provide some valuable tips :-) http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/perspective/#CorrectionusingPhotoshop Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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It seems that there's far more that can be done with transform than could ever be done with the crop tool, David. I'm just now learning about its potential since Sonny mentioned it (spent all of about 30 minutes with it), so I'm far from a maven. Are you familiar with all that transform can do? Shel > From: David Mann > > The nice thing about transform is that you can not only fix tilts, > > but straighten up lines from key stoned shots. These shots with > > lines and squares and other formal elements of composition seem > > to want to be finished. > > You can even do this using the crop tool. I had to use it once after > photographing a bathroom (the end with the spa bath) with a 15mm > lens. The walls had tiles and the camera wasn't _perfectly_ centred > within the room... Shel
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On 6/28/05, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Disconnected ~= disoriented ~= tilted ;-). > > Frank, there is one thing that seems odd/wrong with this photo. It is > its left part. It reminds me of those optical illusions where human eye > seems to misinterpret information given by the eye. There is certain > break of perceived reality here, at least by me. > > May be it is good, may be not, but it is odd/strange/wrong... > > My wife is asking - "Indeed, really what is there?" > > This is kind of a trick shot... Well done! Well, Boris, the "trick" was purely unintended, I assure you. In fact, I'm not sure I see it. However, if you see something compelling or interesting in it, I'm glad. As for your wife's question, I'd say, "It's pretty much a broken payphone on a dirty old wall." That's about it. Glad you guys liked it. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
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On 6/28/05, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is straightness a bourgeois concept too? > It may be. I tend to think of it more in terms of existential absurdity, however... cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
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It seems that there's far more that can be done with transform than could ever be done with the crop tool, David. I'm just now learning about its potential since Sonny mentioned it (spent all of about 30 minutes with it), so I'm far from a maven. Are you familiar with all that transform can do? Shel > [Original Message] > From: David Mann > On Jun 28, 2005, at 2:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > The nice thing about transform is that you can not only fix tilts, > > but straighten up lines from key stoned shots. These shots with > > lines and squares and other formal elements of composition seem > > to want to be finished. > > You can even do this using the crop tool. I had to use it once after > photographing a bathroom (the end with the spa bath) with a 15mm > lens. The walls had tiles and the camera wasn't _perfectly_ centred > within the room...
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frank theriault wrote: > > On 6/27/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Do you know about transform in Photoshop? You don't have to live with > > slightly tilted shots. > > I don't know diddly squat about photoshop. But, as I said, I like the > tilt on this one anyway. > > I could have used it to untilt my last one (Waiting for the > Streetcar), though. > > Actually, I'm usually loathe to untilt anything, just as I prefer not > to crop. Many think I'm crazy to take such a position. I'm in no > position to argue on that point. > > cheers, > frank > What people don't seem to understand is that you're tilted ;) annsan p.s. I can say anything to Frank, seeing as I'm giving him a place to sleep free for 5 days HAR! > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
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Hi! Seems that there's an emerging series of payphone photos. I know it's tilted. I like it that way. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3492681&size=lg Comments welcome (as always). Disconnected ~= disoriented ~= tilted ;-). Frank, there is one thing that seems odd/wrong with this photo. It is its left part. It reminds me of those optical illusions where human eye seems to misinterpret information given by the eye. There is certain break of perceived reality here, at least by me. May be it is good, may be not, but it is odd/strange/wrong... My wife is asking - "Indeed, really what is there?" This is kind of a trick shot... Well done! Boris
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Is straightness a bourgeois concept too? Rick --- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seems that there's an emerging series of payphone > photos. I know it's > tilted. I like it that way. > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3492681&size=lg > > Comments welcome (as always). > > cheers, > frank > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri > Cartier-Bresson > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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On Jun 28, 2005, at 2:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The nice thing about transform is that you can not only fix tilts, but straighten up lines from key stoned shots. These shots with lines and squares and other formal elements of composition seem to want to be finished. You can even do this using the crop tool. I had to use it once after photographing a bathroom (the end with the spa bath) with a 15mm lens. The walls had tiles and the camera wasn't _perfectly_ centred within the room... Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
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On 6/27/05, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought you announced the pay phone series a while ago. Not bad, this > one has all the elements coming together. Did I? I guess it was emerging then, and it's still evolving now. Not quite a series yet, but close. Thanks for your thoughts, Peter. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
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I thought you announced the pay phone series a while ago. Not bad, this one has all the elements coming together. frank theriault wrote: Seems that there's an emerging series of payphone photos. I know it's tilted. I like it that way. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3492681&size=lg Comments welcome (as always). cheers, frank -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
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In a message dated 6/27/2005 9:42:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know diddly squat about photoshop. But, as I said, I like the tilt on this one anyway. -- I have nothing against tilt when it makes the shot work. http://www.sonc.com/orange.htm http://www.sonc.com/fallen_flowers.htm The nice thing about transform is that you can not only fix tilts, but straighten up lines from key stoned shots. These shots with lines and squares and other formal elements of composition seem to want to be finished. Regards, Sonny http://www.sonc.com Natchitoches, Louisiana Oldest continuous settlement in La Louisiane égalité, liberté, crawfish
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On 6/27/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you know about transform in Photoshop? You don't have to live with > slightly tilted shots. I don't know diddly squat about photoshop. But, as I said, I like the tilt on this one anyway. I could have used it to untilt my last one (Waiting for the Streetcar), though. Actually, I'm usually loathe to untilt anything, just as I prefer not to crop. Many think I'm crazy to take such a position. I'm in no position to argue on that point. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
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In a message dated 6/27/2005 9:19:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seems that there's an emerging series of payphone photos. I know it's tilted. I like it that way. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3492681&size=lg Comments welcome (as always). cheers, frank -- Do you know about transform in Photoshop? You don't have to live with slightly tilted shots. Regards, Sonny http://www.sonc.com Natchitoches, Louisiana Oldest continuous settlement in La Louisiane égalité, liberté, crawfish
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Hey Frank, it's tilted! Seriously, I like this. A bit of tilt can add to the sense of disorder that this image suggests. Thought provoking. Good one. Paul On Jun 27, 2005, at 10:18 PM, frank theriault wrote: Seems that there's an emerging series of payphone photos. I know it's tilted. I like it that way. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3492681&size=lg Comments welcome (as always). cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
PAW/PESO: Disconnected
Seems that there's an emerging series of payphone photos. I know it's tilted. I like it that way. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3492681&size=lg Comments welcome (as always). cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
