RE: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-15 Thread Peter McIntosh
Thanks Brian.

I struggled a little with the William Ricketts ones - had a new (for me)
vivitar 24mm lens on that I had hardly used before, and it was quite dark
and overcast when we were there.  Depth-of-field is a bit lacking in some,
and there's movement in others. All the more reason to go back... :-)

Yes - one of the Lake Mathieson ones is in the current PUG.  

Regards,

Peter

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Brian Walters
Sent: Monday, 15 December 2008 20:58
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Subject: RE: PDML Book Project is go!

Some good work there, Peter.

I like the Lake Mathieson images (I think I've seen one of these in a
PUG) and the shot of the two zebras.  Also the William Ricketts
Sanctuary images - haven't been there for decades. I'll have to re-visit
on my next trip to Melbourne.



Cheers

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On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:16:00 +1100, Peter McIntosh
peter...@gmail.com said:
 A lurker delurks...
 
 Thanks heaps guys for putting this together.  Volunteers (irrespective of
 what they're volunteering for) never receive enough thanks for their
 work.
 Looking forward to seeing the end product.  I've sent two - hopefully
 they're good enough.
 
 H... an introduction...
 
 Not sure how long I've been on the list - probably 2-3 years I guess. 
 I'm
 situated in Sydney, Australia, just one hill east of Brian Walters.  Been
 running around with an ist-DL and a couple of Pentax lenses for a while,
 photographing spasmodically.  And the results reflect it...
 www.pbase.com/petergly.  Hopefully more time coming up to allow me to
 concentrate on it more.
 
 Oh yeah, BTW - page also works fine on Operas 9.62.
 
 Back to lurking...
 
 Ciao,
 
 Peter in Western Sydney

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RE: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-15 Thread Brian Walters
Some good work there, Peter.

I like the Lake Mathieson images (I think I've seen one of these in a
PUG) and the shot of the two zebras.  Also the William Ricketts
Sanctuary images - haven't been there for decades. I'll have to re-visit
on my next trip to Melbourne.



Cheers

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On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:16:00 +1100, Peter McIntosh
peter...@gmail.com said:
 A lurker delurks...
 
 Thanks heaps guys for putting this together.  Volunteers (irrespective of
 what they're volunteering for) never receive enough thanks for their
 work.
 Looking forward to seeing the end product.  I've sent two - hopefully
 they're good enough.
 
 H... an introduction...
 
 Not sure how long I've been on the list - probably 2-3 years I guess. 
 I'm
 situated in Sydney, Australia, just one hill east of Brian Walters.  Been
 running around with an ist-DL and a couple of Pentax lenses for a while,
 photographing spasmodically.  And the results reflect it...
 www.pbase.com/petergly.  Hopefully more time coming up to allow me to
 concentrate on it more.
 
 Oh yeah, BTW - page also works fine on Operas 9.62.
 
 Back to lurking...
 
 Ciao,
 
 Peter in Western Sydney

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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-14 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/13/2008 10:16:18 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
peter...@gmail.com writes:
A lurker  delurks...

Thanks heaps guys for putting this together.  Volunteers  (irrespective of
what they're volunteering for) never receive enough thanks  for their work.
Looking forward to seeing the end product.  I've sent  two - hopefully
they're good enough.

H... an  introduction...

Not sure how long I've been on the list - probably 2-3  years I guess.  I'm
situated in Sydney, Australia, just one hill east of  Brian Walters.  Been
running around with an ist-DL and a couple of  Pentax lenses for a while,
photographing spasmodically.  And the results  reflect it...
www.pbase.com/petergly.  Hopefully more time coming up to  allow me to
concentrate on it more.

Oh yeah, BTW - page also works  fine on Operas 9.62.

Back to lurking...

Ciao,

Peter in  Western Sydney

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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-13 Thread mike wilson

Mark Roberts wrote:


Dario Bonazza wrote:


Mark Roberts wrote:


Each PDML member (lurkers included!) can submit up to two shots.



I think that lurkers wanting to access the PDML book space should 
beat a knock here, a message just for proofing at least they have 
taken the burden of subscribing (even if it's done just for being in 
the book ;*)


Don't you?



Doug Brewer has suggested that any lurker who wants a photo in the 
book should at least post a letter of introduction post to the list. 
Seems fair. (And Doug can check his records to make sure they really 
*are* list members.)


How would anyone post a message of introduction if they were not list 
members?


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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-13 Thread Mark Roberts

mike wilson wrote:

Mark Roberts wrote:


Dario Bonazza wrote:


Mark Roberts wrote:


Each PDML member (lurkers included!) can submit up to two shots.


I think that lurkers wanting to access the PDML book space should 
beat a knock here, a message just for proofing at least they have 
taken the burden of subscribing (even if it's done just for being in 
the book ;*)


Don't you?


Doug Brewer has suggested that any lurker who wants a photo in the 
book should at least post a letter of introduction post to the list. 
Seems fair. (And Doug can check his records to make sure they really 
*are* list members.)


How would anyone post a message of introduction if they were not list 
members?


The message of introduction is for people who *are* list members, but 
are lurking (as opposed to those who aren't members but find this thread 
in the list archives).



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RE: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-13 Thread Peter McIntosh
A lurker delurks...

Thanks heaps guys for putting this together.  Volunteers (irrespective of
what they're volunteering for) never receive enough thanks for their work.
Looking forward to seeing the end product.  I've sent two - hopefully
they're good enough.

H... an introduction...

Not sure how long I've been on the list - probably 2-3 years I guess.  I'm
situated in Sydney, Australia, just one hill east of Brian Walters.  Been
running around with an ist-DL and a couple of Pentax lenses for a while,
photographing spasmodically.  And the results reflect it...
www.pbase.com/petergly.  Hopefully more time coming up to allow me to
concentrate on it more.

Oh yeah, BTW - page also works fine on Operas 9.62.

Back to lurking...

Ciao,

Peter in Western Sydney

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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark
Roberts
Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 02:16
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Subject: PDML Book Project is go!

After a flurry of emails bouncing around the globe and a bit of 
last-minute html/php coding, Scott Loveless, Bill Robb and I have 
decided to have a go at producing a PDML photo book. So everyone start 
going through your shots from this year and pick out your best work!



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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-12 Thread Dario Bonazza

Mark Roberts wrote:


Each PDML member (lurkers included!) can submit up to two shots.



I think that lurkers wanting to access the PDML book space should beat a 
knock here, a message just for proofing at least they have taken the burden 
of subscribing (even if it's done just for being in the book ;*)


Don't you?

Dario



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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-12 Thread drew

 On Dec 11, 2008, at 10:16 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 After a flurry of emails bouncing around the globe and a bit of last-
 minute html/php coding, Scott Loveless, Bill Robb and I have decided
 to have a go at producing a PDML photo book. So everyone start going
 through your shots from this year and pick out your best work!

 huh. I dunno if I've taken two good shots this year, but I'll look.


Dunno if I taken two good shots this lifetime, let alone year

Drew (creatively challenged).


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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-12 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
Uf,

I took a look at my 2008 pictures just to realize that I am only doing 'family' 
shots lately...well, with two kids under 3 years, one just born this summer, I 
guess it is normal.

Anyway, I am pretty confident with one candidate and I'll take a closer look to 
see if I can find another one.

Great idea, thanks for the effort !!

Jaume




- Mensaje original 
De: Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu
Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Enviado: jueves, 11 de diciembre, 2008 16:16:02
Asunto: PDML Book Project is go!

After a flurry of emails bouncing around the globe and a bit of last-minute 
html/php coding, Scott Loveless, Bill Robb and I have decided to have a go at 
producing a PDML photo book. So everyone start going through your shots from 
this year and pick out your best work!

The Plan:
The 2008 PDML Photo Annual (yes, we want to make this an annual publication) 
will be a book of photos by the PDML, plus the annual quotations list. We're 
going to go through Blurb.com for printing. The book will probably be 8 x 10 
inch landscape format, 80-120 pages, so we expect the hardcover version to be 
around $45.00 and the softcover to be  around $35.00. These are just estimates 
at the moment as actual pricing will depend on bulk purchases (and some 
built-in profit which we want to donate to the NCCF like we do with the PDML 
schwag -- http://www.cafepress.com/robertstech)

Publication Date:
We're aiming for early spring.

Photos:
Each PDML member (lurkers included!) can submit up to two shots. Deadline is 
tentatively January 31, 2009 or whenever we fill up the page count, whichever 
comes first. But we may extend the deadline (or page count) if necessary.

Photos should have been shot during 2008 with a Pentax camera (although we may 
be willing to negotiate if you happen to have a monstrosity like some other 
brand camera that shoots with Pentax lenses modified to fit cough, cough).

Image File Requirements:
* File Format: JPEG
* Color Space: sRGB (embed the ICC color profile if you can)
* Maximum File Size: 3 megabytes
* Rename your file with a unique file name
* Image Dimensions: Max height, 2400 pixels; Max width, 3000 pixels
* You may crop to any aspect ratio you like (but wide panos won't fit)
* Please don't apply any sharpening to the image
* Please don't add decorative borders, visible (or invisible) watermarks

Some of these requirements are determined by Blurb (the color space, for 
example), some by the physical size of the book and some by the workflow we're 
planning on. The three editors are all experienced Photoshop experts and Bill 
and I have produced books through Blurb, so please trust us to take care of 
things like sharpening. Contact one of us directly if you have any questions or 
concerns.

Note the request for a *unique* file name. We don't want things like IMGP5854 
(default Pentax format) or things like untitled or really common phrases, 
because it will make file management difficult and raise the possibility of one 
person's image overwriting someone else's on the server or on our local drives.

How to Submit Photos:
Please don't send them by email! I've set up a web page where you can upload 
your photos:
http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook.php

I've tested this page on Firefox, Opera, Safari (latest versions) and Internet 
Explorer 5.5, 6 and 7 (it fails catastrophically on version 5 and earlier and 
that may or may not get fixed in the future...)
If you have problems with the page please contact me.

So hop to it! We want your *best* shots. Knock people's socks off!


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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-12 Thread Mark Roberts

Doug wrote:


On Dec 11, 2008, at 10:16 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

After a flurry of emails bouncing around the globe and a bit of 
last-minute html/php coding, Scott Loveless, Bill Robb and I have 
decided to have a go at producing a PDML photo book. So everyone start 
going through your shots from this year and pick out your best work!


huh. I dunno if I've taken two good shots this year, but I'll look.


I know you've taken at least two good shots this year.

But for the benefit of everyone else I'll point out that there's no rule 
that you have to send two shots; you can just submit one photo if you like.


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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-12 Thread Christian

Dario Bonazza wrote:

Mark Roberts wrote:


We've got plans for the cover. Still secret for now :)


No longer. I've cracked your machine and I've discovered the book cover 
under work:

http://www.dariobonazza.com/public/bookcover.jpg



Dario,

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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-12 Thread Jack Davis
Mark,
In reading your response to this attached post, I'd like to check my 
understanding of your post of yesterday, I believe, wherein you allowed that 
we weren't being held to the current year's work.
Please clarify. ;=)

Thank you,

Jack


--- On Fri, 12/12/08, Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu wrote:

 From: Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu
 Subject: Re: PDML Book Project is go!
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 6:10 AM
 Doug wrote:
  
  On Dec 11, 2008, at 10:16 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
  
  After a flurry of emails bouncing around the globe
 and a bit of last-minute html/php coding, Scott Loveless,
 Bill Robb and I have decided to have a go at producing a
 PDML photo book. So everyone start going through your shots
 from this year and pick out your best work!
  
  huh. I dunno if I've taken two good shots this
 year, but I'll look.
 
 I know you've taken at least two good shots this year.
 
 But for the benefit of everyone else I'll point out
 that there's no rule that you have to send two shots;
 you can just submit one photo if you like.
 
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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-12 Thread David Savage
2008/12/12 Christian christ...@skofteland.net:
 Dario Bonazza wrote:

 Mark Roberts wrote:

 We've got plans for the cover. Still secret for now :)

 No longer. I've cracked your machine and I've discovered the book cover
 under work:
 http://www.dariobonazza.com/public/bookcover.jpg


 Dario,

 That's awesome!

2 birds for the price of one.

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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-12 Thread Dario Bonazza

So you like the PDML'er chimping in the background...

Dario

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From: Christian christ...@skofteland.net

To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: PDML Book Project is go!



Dario Bonazza wrote:

Mark Roberts wrote:


We've got plans for the cover. Still secret for now :)


No longer. I've cracked your machine and I've discovered the book cover 
under work:

http://www.dariobonazza.com/public/bookcover.jpg



Dario,

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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-12 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu wrote:
 After a flurry of emails bouncing around the globe and a bit of last-minute
 html/php coding, Scott Loveless, Bill Robb and I have decided to have a go
 at producing a PDML photo book. So everyone start going through your shots
 from this year and pick out your best work!

 The Plan:
 The 2008 PDML Photo Annual (yes, we want to make this an annual publication)
 will be a book of photos by the PDML, plus the annual quotations list. We're
 going to go through Blurb.com for printing. The book will probably be 8 x 10
 inch landscape format, 80-120 pages, so we expect the hardcover version to
 be around $45.00 and the softcover to be  around $35.00. These are just
 estimates at the moment as actual pricing will depend on bulk purchases (and
 some built-in profit which we want to donate to the NCCF like we do with the
 PDML schwag -- http://www.cafepress.com/robertstech)

 Publication Date:
 We're aiming for early spring.

 Photos:
 Each PDML member (lurkers included!) can submit up to two shots. Deadline is
 tentatively January 31, 2009 or whenever we fill up the page count,
 whichever comes first. But we may extend the deadline (or page count) if
 necessary.

 Photos should have been shot during 2008 with a Pentax camera (although we
 may be willing to negotiate if you happen to have a monstrosity like some
 other brand camera that shoots with Pentax lenses modified to fit cough,
 cough).

 Image File Requirements:
 * File Format: JPEG
 * Color Space: sRGB (embed the ICC color profile if you can)
 * Maximum File Size: 3 megabytes
 * Rename your file with a unique file name
 * Image Dimensions: Max height, 2400 pixels; Max width, 3000 pixels
 * You may crop to any aspect ratio you like (but wide panos won't fit)
 * Please don't apply any sharpening to the image
 * Please don't add decorative borders, visible (or invisible) watermarks

 Some of these requirements are determined by Blurb (the color space, for
 example), some by the physical size of the book and some by the workflow
 we're planning on. The three editors are all experienced Photoshop experts
 and Bill and I have produced books through Blurb, so please trust us to take
 care of things like sharpening. Contact one of us directly if you have any
 questions or concerns.

 Note the request for a *unique* file name. We don't want things like
 IMGP5854 (default Pentax format) or things like untitled or really
 common phrases, because it will make file management difficult and raise the
 possibility of one person's image overwriting someone else's on the server
 or on our local drives.

 How to Submit Photos:
 Please don't send them by email! I've set up a web page where you can upload
 your photos:
 http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook.php

 I've tested this page on Firefox, Opera, Safari (latest versions) and
 Internet Explorer 5.5, 6 and 7 (it fails catastrophically on version 5 and
 earlier and that may or may not get fixed in the future...)
 If you have problems with the page please contact me.

 So hop to it! We want your *best* shots. Knock people's socks off!

I'm going to have a tough time submitting anything, but with any luck
I might come up with a way to properly render a photo or two.

This sounds like a great project - I hope I'll be able to participate.
 Thanks for getting it going.

cheers,
frank


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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-12 Thread Mark Roberts

Dario Bonazza wrote:

Mark Roberts wrote:


Each PDML member (lurkers included!) can submit up to two shots.


I think that lurkers wanting to access the PDML book space should beat a 
knock here, a message just for proofing at least they have taken the 
burden of subscribing (even if it's done just for being in the book ;*)


Don't you?


Doug Brewer has suggested that any lurker who wants a photo in the book 
should at least post a letter of introduction post to the list. Seems 
fair. (And Doug can check his records to make sure they really *are* 
list members.)



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RE: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-12 Thread John Celio
Frank wrote:
 I'm going to have a tough time submitting anything, but with any luck
 I might come up with a way to properly render a photo or two.

It wouldn't be a true PDML book without you, Frank.  I hope you can get
something submitted!

John

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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-12 Thread David J Brooks
Since Frank has some come computer concerns with PS etc, lately, i'm
sure Mark, Bill can help in any conversion.

Dave

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 3:35 PM, John Celio n...@neovenator.com wrote:
 Frank wrote:
 I'm going to have a tough time submitting anything, but with any luck
 I might come up with a way to properly render a photo or two.

 It wouldn't be a true PDML book without you, Frank.  I hope you can get
 something submitted!

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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-12 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 6:59 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:

 Since Frank has some come computer concerns with PS etc, lately, i'm
 sure Mark, Bill can help in any conversion.

And they've already said they'll make them sharp!

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PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Mark Roberts
After a flurry of emails bouncing around the globe and a bit of 
last-minute html/php coding, Scott Loveless, Bill Robb and I have 
decided to have a go at producing a PDML photo book. So everyone start 
going through your shots from this year and pick out your best work!


The Plan:
The 2008 PDML Photo Annual (yes, we want to make this an annual 
publication) will be a book of photos by the PDML, plus the annual 
quotations list. We're going to go through Blurb.com for printing. The 
book will probably be 8 x 10 inch landscape format, 80-120 pages, so we 
expect the hardcover version to be around $45.00 and the softcover to be 
 around $35.00. These are just estimates at the moment as actual 
pricing will depend on bulk purchases (and some built-in profit which we 
want to donate to the NCCF like we do with the PDML schwag -- 
http://www.cafepress.com/robertstech)


Publication Date:
We're aiming for early spring.

Photos:
Each PDML member (lurkers included!) can submit up to two shots. 
Deadline is tentatively January 31, 2009 or whenever we fill up the page 
count, whichever comes first. But we may extend the deadline (or page 
count) if necessary.


Photos should have been shot during 2008 with a Pentax camera (although 
we may be willing to negotiate if you happen to have a monstrosity like 
some other brand camera that shoots with Pentax lenses modified to fit 
cough, cough).


Image File Requirements:
* File Format: JPEG
* Color Space: sRGB (embed the ICC color profile if you can)
* Maximum File Size: 3 megabytes
* Rename your file with a unique file name
* Image Dimensions: Max height, 2400 pixels; Max width, 3000 pixels
* You may crop to any aspect ratio you like (but wide panos won't fit)
* Please don't apply any sharpening to the image
* Please don't add decorative borders, visible (or invisible) watermarks

Some of these requirements are determined by Blurb (the color space, for 
example), some by the physical size of the book and some by the workflow 
we're planning on. The three editors are all experienced Photoshop 
experts and Bill and I have produced books through Blurb, so please 
trust us to take care of things like sharpening. Contact one of us 
directly if you have any questions or concerns.


Note the request for a *unique* file name. We don't want things like 
IMGP5854 (default Pentax format) or things like untitled or really 
common phrases, because it will make file management difficult and raise 
the possibility of one person's image overwriting someone else's on the 
server or on our local drives.


How to Submit Photos:
Please don't send them by email! I've set up a web page where you can 
upload your photos:

http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook.php

I've tested this page on Firefox, Opera, Safari (latest versions) and 
Internet Explorer 5.5, 6 and 7 (it fails catastrophically on version 5 
and earlier and that may or may not get fixed in the future...)

If you have problems with the page please contact me.

So hop to it! We want your *best* shots. Knock people's socks off!


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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Christine Aguila
This is very exciting, and I just want to extend a big appreciative thanks 
in advance to Scott, Bill,  Mark for your coming efforts and hard work. 
This will be a really fun project, but it will be work--please know it's 
greatly appreciated.  Looking forward to seeing everyone's beautiful 
photography.

Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 9:16 AM
Subject: PDML Book Project is go!


After a flurry of emails bouncing around the globe and a bit of 
last-minute html/php coding, Scott Loveless, Bill Robb and I have decided 
to have a go at producing a PDML photo book. So everyone start going 
through your shots from this year and pick out your best work!


The Plan:
The 2008 PDML Photo Annual (yes, we want to make this an annual 
publication) will be a book of photos by the PDML, plus the annual 
quotations list. We're going to go through Blurb.com for printing. The 
book will probably be 8 x 10 inch landscape format, 80-120 pages, so we 
expect the hardcover version to be around $45.00 and the softcover to be 
around $35.00. These are just estimates at the moment as actual pricing 
will depend on bulk purchases (and some built-in profit which we want to 
donate to the NCCF like we do with the PDML schwag -- 
http://www.cafepress.com/robertstech)


Publication Date:
We're aiming for early spring.

Photos:
Each PDML member (lurkers included!) can submit up to two shots. Deadline 
is tentatively January 31, 2009 or whenever we fill up the page count, 
whichever comes first. But we may extend the deadline (or page count) if 
necessary.


Photos should have been shot during 2008 with a Pentax camera (although we 
may be willing to negotiate if you happen to have a monstrosity like some 
other brand camera that shoots with Pentax lenses modified to fit cough, 
cough).


Image File Requirements:
* File Format: JPEG
* Color Space: sRGB (embed the ICC color profile if you can)
* Maximum File Size: 3 megabytes
* Rename your file with a unique file name
* Image Dimensions: Max height, 2400 pixels; Max width, 3000 pixels
* You may crop to any aspect ratio you like (but wide panos won't fit)
* Please don't apply any sharpening to the image
* Please don't add decorative borders, visible (or invisible) watermarks

Some of these requirements are determined by Blurb (the color space, for 
example), some by the physical size of the book and some by the workflow 
we're planning on. The three editors are all experienced Photoshop experts 
and Bill and I have produced books through Blurb, so please trust us to 
take care of things like sharpening. Contact one of us directly if you 
have any questions or concerns.


Note the request for a *unique* file name. We don't want things like 
IMGP5854 (default Pentax format) or things like untitled or really 
common phrases, because it will make file management difficult and raise 
the possibility of one person's image overwriting someone else's on the 
server or on our local drives.


How to Submit Photos:
Please don't send them by email! I've set up a web page where you can 
upload your photos:

http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook.php

I've tested this page on Firefox, Opera, Safari (latest versions) and 
Internet Explorer 5.5, 6 and 7 (it fails catastrophically on version 5 and 
earlier and that may or may not get fixed in the future...)

If you have problems with the page please contact me.

So hop to it! We want your *best* shots. Knock people's socks off!


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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Christian

Mark Roberts wrote:
Scott Loveless, Bill Robb and I have 
decided to have a go at producing a PDML photo book. 


Woo Hoo!

I'll trust your judgment for the cover but, just in case, where do I 
send bribes?


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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Jack Davis
Mark,
I'm impressed with the willingness of you, Scott and Bill to undertake such a 
project. Generous of you all! 
Hope you will allow a question having to do with the no sharpening condition. 
At this time, I have one 2008 shot I'd like to have included in the book. The 
only version I have in my files is one that's been fully PS worked and burned 
to CD. Sharpening was a part of the PS work.
Is it a candidate for inclusion?

With appreciation,

Jack




--- On Thu, 12/11/08, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: PDML Book Project is go!
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 7:16 AM
 After a flurry of emails bouncing around the globe and a bit
 of last-minute html/php coding, Scott Loveless, Bill Robb
 and I have decided to have a go at producing a PDML photo
 book. So everyone start going through your shots from this
 year and pick out your best work!
 
 The Plan:
 The 2008 PDML Photo Annual (yes, we want to make this an
 annual publication) will be a book of photos by the PDML,
 plus the annual quotations list. We're going to go
 through Blurb.com for printing. The book will probably be 8
 x 10 inch landscape format, 80-120 pages, so we expect the
 hardcover version to be around $45.00 and the softcover to
 be  around $35.00. These are just estimates at the moment as
 actual pricing will depend on bulk purchases (and some
 built-in profit which we want to donate to the NCCF like we
 do with the PDML schwag --
 http://www.cafepress.com/robertstech)
 
 Publication Date:
 We're aiming for early spring.
 
 Photos:
 Each PDML member (lurkers included!) can submit up to two
 shots. Deadline is tentatively January 31, 2009 or whenever
 we fill up the page count, whichever comes first. But we may
 extend the deadline (or page count) if necessary.
 
 Photos should have been shot during 2008 with a Pentax
 camera (although we may be willing to negotiate if you
 happen to have a monstrosity like some other brand camera
 that shoots with Pentax lenses modified to fit cough,
 cough).
 
 Image File Requirements:
 * File Format: JPEG
 * Color Space: sRGB (embed the ICC color profile if you
 can)
 * Maximum File Size: 3 megabytes
 * Rename your file with a unique file name
 * Image Dimensions: Max height, 2400 pixels; Max width,
 3000 pixels
 * You may crop to any aspect ratio you like (but wide panos
 won't fit)
 * Please don't apply any sharpening to the image
 * Please don't add decorative borders, visible (or
 invisible) watermarks
 
 Some of these requirements are determined by Blurb (the
 color space, for example), some by the physical size of the
 book and some by the workflow we're planning on. The
 three editors are all experienced Photoshop experts and Bill
 and I have produced books through Blurb, so please trust us
 to take care of things like sharpening. Contact one of us
 directly if you have any questions or concerns.
 
 Note the request for a *unique* file name. We don't
 want things like IMGP5854 (default Pentax
 format) or things like untitled or really common
 phrases, because it will make file management difficult and
 raise the possibility of one person's image overwriting
 someone else's on the server or on our local drives.
 
 How to Submit Photos:
 Please don't send them by email! I've set up a web
 page where you can upload your photos:
 http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook.php
 
 I've tested this page on Firefox, Opera, Safari (latest
 versions) and Internet Explorer 5.5, 6 and 7 (it fails
 catastrophically on version 5 and earlier and that may or
 may not get fixed in the future...)
 If you have problems with the page please contact me.
 
 So hop to it! We want your *best* shots. Knock people's
 socks off!
 
 
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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread PN Stenquist
Sounds great. However, the request that photos not be sharpened is  
problematic. Some sharpening is part of the normal RAW conversion  
workflow. Perhaps you can just suggest that members refrain from  
excessive sharpening?

Paul
On Dec 11, 2008, at 10:16 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

After a flurry of emails bouncing around the globe and a bit of last- 
minute html/php coding, Scott Loveless, Bill Robb and I have decided  
to have a go at producing a PDML photo book. So everyone start going  
through your shots from this year and pick out your best work!


The Plan:
The 2008 PDML Photo Annual (yes, we want to make this an annual  
publication) will be a book of photos by the PDML, plus the annual  
quotations list. We're going to go through Blurb.com for printing.  
The book will probably be 8 x 10 inch landscape format, 80-120  
pages, so we expect the hardcover version to be around $45.00 and  
the softcover to be  around $35.00. These are just estimates at the  
moment as actual pricing will depend on bulk purchases (and some  
built-in profit which we want to donate to the NCCF like we do with  
the PDML schwag -- http://www.cafepress.com/robertstech)


Publication Date:
We're aiming for early spring.

Photos:
Each PDML member (lurkers included!) can submit up to two shots.  
Deadline is tentatively January 31, 2009 or whenever we fill up the  
page count, whichever comes first. But we may extend the deadline  
(or page count) if necessary.


Photos should have been shot during 2008 with a Pentax camera  
(although we may be willing to negotiate if you happen to have a  
monstrosity like some other brand camera that shoots with Pentax  
lenses modified to fit cough, cough).


Image File Requirements:
* File Format: JPEG
* Color Space: sRGB (embed the ICC color profile if you can)
* Maximum File Size: 3 megabytes
* Rename your file with a unique file name
* Image Dimensions: Max height, 2400 pixels; Max width, 3000 pixels
* You may crop to any aspect ratio you like (but wide panos won't fit)
* Please don't apply any sharpening to the image
* Please don't add decorative borders, visible (or invisible)  
watermarks


Some of these requirements are determined by Blurb (the color space,  
for example), some by the physical size of the book and some by the  
workflow we're planning on. The three editors are all experienced  
Photoshop experts and Bill and I have produced books through Blurb,  
so please trust us to take care of things like sharpening. Contact  
one of us directly if you have any questions or concerns.


Note the request for a *unique* file name. We don't want things like  
IMGP5854 (default Pentax format) or things like untitled or  
really common phrases, because it will make file management  
difficult and raise the possibility of one person's image  
overwriting someone else's on the server or on our local drives.


How to Submit Photos:
Please don't send them by email! I've set up a web page where you  
can upload your photos:

http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook.php

I've tested this page on Firefox, Opera, Safari (latest versions)  
and Internet Explorer 5.5, 6 and 7 (it fails catastrophically on  
version 5 and earlier and that may or may not get fixed in the  
future...)

If you have problems with the page please contact me.

So hop to it! We want your *best* shots. Knock people's socks off!


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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread ann sanfedele

I'm cc'ing myself to make sure I keep this info...

Thanks for the allowance of Pentax lens on other camera since photos 
need to have been taken

in 2008


Or someone can lend me their Optio  -hehe -

ann


Mark Roberts wrote:

After a flurry of emails bouncing around the globe and a bit of 
last-minute html/php coding, Scott Loveless, Bill Robb and I have 
decided to have a go at producing a PDML photo book. So everyone start 
going through your shots from this year and pick out your best work!


The Plan:
The 2008 PDML Photo Annual (yes, we want to make this an annual 
publication) will be a book of photos by the PDML, plus the annual 
quotations list. We're going to go through Blurb.com for printing. The 
book will probably be 8 x 10 inch landscape format, 80-120 pages, so 
we expect the hardcover version to be around $45.00 and the softcover 
to be  around $35.00. These are just estimates at the moment as actual 
pricing will depend on bulk purchases (and some built-in profit which 
we want to donate to the NCCF like we do with the PDML schwag -- 
http://www.cafepress.com/robertstech)


Publication Date:
We're aiming for early spring.

Photos:
Each PDML member (lurkers included!) can submit up to two shots. 
Deadline is tentatively January 31, 2009 or whenever we fill up the 
page count, whichever comes first. But we may extend the deadline (or 
page count) if necessary.


Photos should have been shot during 2008 with a Pentax camera 
(although we may be willing to negotiate if you happen to have a 
monstrosity like some other brand camera that shoots with Pentax 
lenses modified to fit cough, cough).


Image File Requirements:
* File Format: JPEG
* Color Space: sRGB (embed the ICC color profile if you can)
* Maximum File Size: 3 megabytes
* Rename your file with a unique file name
* Image Dimensions: Max height, 2400 pixels; Max width, 3000 pixels
* You may crop to any aspect ratio you like (but wide panos won't fit)
* Please don't apply any sharpening to the image
* Please don't add decorative borders, visible (or invisible) watermarks

Some of these requirements are determined by Blurb (the color space, 
for example), some by the physical size of the book and some by the 
workflow we're planning on. The three editors are all experienced 
Photoshop experts and Bill and I have produced books through Blurb, so 
please trust us to take care of things like sharpening. Contact one of 
us directly if you have any questions or concerns.


Note the request for a *unique* file name. We don't want things like 
IMGP5854 (default Pentax format) or things like untitled or really 
common phrases, because it will make file management difficult and 
raise the possibility of one person's image overwriting someone else's 
on the server or on our local drives.


How to Submit Photos:
Please don't send them by email! I've set up a web page where you can 
upload your photos:

http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook.php

I've tested this page on Firefox, Opera, Safari (latest versions) and 
Internet Explorer 5.5, 6 and 7 (it fails catastrophically on version 5 
and earlier and that may or may not get fixed in the future...)

If you have problems with the page please contact me.

So hop to it! We want your *best* shots. Knock people's socks off!


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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks for doing this you three. I'll be sending in my best.

Is it as discussed earlier, a limit of two photos.
Does it have to be in 2008. or is this a true best of..

No problems with the sharpeing thing. I shoot jpeg 99% of the time,
which seems to piss of a Pentax forum member, and if i DO shoot Raw,
its Raw + Jpeg.:-)

Dave


Dave

On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:43 AM, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm cc'ing myself to make sure I keep this info...

 Thanks for the allowance of Pentax lens on other camera since photos need
 to have been taken
 in 2008


 Or someone can lend me their Optio  -hehe -

 ann


 Mark Roberts wrote:

 After a flurry of emails bouncing around the globe and a bit of
 last-minute html/php coding, Scott Loveless, Bill Robb and I have decided to
 have a go at producing a PDML photo book. So everyone start going through
 your shots from this year and pick out your best work!

 The Plan:
 The 2008 PDML Photo Annual (yes, we want to make this an annual
 publication) will be a book of photos by the PDML, plus the annual
 quotations list. We're going to go through Blurb.com for printing. The book
 will probably be 8 x 10 inch landscape format, 80-120 pages, so we expect
 the hardcover version to be around $45.00 and the softcover to be  around
 $35.00. These are just estimates at the moment as actual pricing will depend
 on bulk purchases (and some built-in profit which we want to donate to the
 NCCF like we do with the PDML schwag --
 http://www.cafepress.com/robertstech)

 Publication Date:
 We're aiming for early spring.

 Photos:
 Each PDML member (lurkers included!) can submit up to two shots. Deadline
 is tentatively January 31, 2009 or whenever we fill up the page count,
 whichever comes first. But we may extend the deadline (or page count) if
 necessary.

 Photos should have been shot during 2008 with a Pentax camera (although we
 may be willing to negotiate if you happen to have a monstrosity like some
 other brand camera that shoots with Pentax lenses modified to fit cough,
 cough).

 Image File Requirements:
 * File Format: JPEG
 * Color Space: sRGB (embed the ICC color profile if you can)
 * Maximum File Size: 3 megabytes
 * Rename your file with a unique file name
 * Image Dimensions: Max height, 2400 pixels; Max width, 3000 pixels
 * You may crop to any aspect ratio you like (but wide panos won't fit)
 * Please don't apply any sharpening to the image
 * Please don't add decorative borders, visible (or invisible) watermarks

 Some of these requirements are determined by Blurb (the color space, for
 example), some by the physical size of the book and some by the workflow
 we're planning on. The three editors are all experienced Photoshop experts
 and Bill and I have produced books through Blurb, so please trust us to take
 care of things like sharpening. Contact one of us directly if you have any
 questions or concerns.

 Note the request for a *unique* file name. We don't want things like
 IMGP5854 (default Pentax format) or things like untitled or really
 common phrases, because it will make file management difficult and raise the
 possibility of one person's image overwriting someone else's on the server
 or on our local drives.

 How to Submit Photos:
 Please don't send them by email! I've set up a web page where you can
 upload your photos:
 http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook.php

 I've tested this page on Firefox, Opera, Safari (latest versions) and
 Internet Explorer 5.5, 6 and 7 (it fails catastrophically on version 5 and
 earlier and that may or may not get fixed in the future...)
 If you have problems with the page please contact me.

 So hop to it! We want your *best* shots. Knock people's socks off!


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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/12/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

(although
we may be willing to negotiate if you happen to have a monstrosity like
some other brand camera that shoots with Pentax lenses modified to fit
cough, cough).

Revenge is a dish best served with a fatal blow to the head by a 1D mark II...


Actually I sold it - so the only DSLR in the household is an *ist Ds !



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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Scott Loveless
On 12/11/08, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 On 11/12/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:


  (although
  we may be willing to negotiate if you happen to have a monstrosity like
  some other brand camera that shoots with Pentax lenses modified to fit
  cough, cough).


 Revenge is a dish best served with a fatal blow to the head by a 1D mark II...


  Actually I sold it - so the only DSLR in the household is an *ist Ds !

Just shoot something with your Leica mount 43LTD.  You do have one, don't you?

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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Boris Liberman

That's very cool.

I am going to try and participate if there are no objections :-).

Boris


Mark Roberts wrote:
After a flurry of emails bouncing around the globe and a bit of 
last-minute html/php coding, Scott Loveless, Bill Robb and I have 
decided to have a go at producing a PDML photo book. So everyone start 
going through your shots from this year and pick out your best work!


The Plan:
The 2008 PDML Photo Annual (yes, we want to make this an annual 
publication) will be a book of photos by the PDML, plus the annual 
quotations list. We're going to go through Blurb.com for printing. The 
book will probably be 8 x 10 inch landscape format, 80-120 pages, so we 
expect the hardcover version to be around $45.00 and the softcover to be 
 around $35.00. These are just estimates at the moment as actual pricing 
will depend on bulk purchases (and some built-in profit which we want to 
donate to the NCCF like we do with the PDML schwag -- 
http://www.cafepress.com/robertstech)


Publication Date:
We're aiming for early spring.

Photos:
Each PDML member (lurkers included!) can submit up to two shots. 
Deadline is tentatively January 31, 2009 or whenever we fill up the page 
count, whichever comes first. But we may extend the deadline (or page 
count) if necessary.


Photos should have been shot during 2008 with a Pentax camera (although 
we may be willing to negotiate if you happen to have a monstrosity like 
some other brand camera that shoots with Pentax lenses modified to fit 
cough, cough).


Image File Requirements:
* File Format: JPEG
* Color Space: sRGB (embed the ICC color profile if you can)
* Maximum File Size: 3 megabytes
* Rename your file with a unique file name
* Image Dimensions: Max height, 2400 pixels; Max width, 3000 pixels
* You may crop to any aspect ratio you like (but wide panos won't fit)
* Please don't apply any sharpening to the image
* Please don't add decorative borders, visible (or invisible) watermarks

Some of these requirements are determined by Blurb (the color space, for 
example), some by the physical size of the book and some by the workflow 
we're planning on. The three editors are all experienced Photoshop 
experts and Bill and I have produced books through Blurb, so please 
trust us to take care of things like sharpening. Contact one of us 
directly if you have any questions or concerns.


Note the request for a *unique* file name. We don't want things like 
IMGP5854 (default Pentax format) or things like untitled or really 
common phrases, because it will make file management difficult and raise 
the possibility of one person's image overwriting someone else's on the 
server or on our local drives.


How to Submit Photos:
Please don't send them by email! I've set up a web page where you can 
upload your photos:

http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook.php

I've tested this page on Firefox, Opera, Safari (latest versions) and 
Internet Explorer 5.5, 6 and 7 (it fails catastrophically on version 5 
and earlier and that may or may not get fixed in the future...)

If you have problems with the page please contact me.

So hop to it! We want your *best* shots. Knock people's socks off!



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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Jack Davis
The recent year's work limitation may have the effect of un-juried compromising 
stuff being submitted in desperation as the designated year winds down.
If all have control of their I want'a be included glands, the standard has a 
chance.

Jack



--- On Thu, 12/11/08, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PDML Book Project is go!
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 9:09 AM
 Thanks for doing this you three. I'll be sending in my
 best.
 
 Is it as discussed earlier, a limit of two photos.
 Does it have to be in 2008. or is this a true best of..
 
 No problems with the sharpeing thing. I shoot jpeg 99% of
 the time,
 which seems to piss of a Pentax forum member, and if i DO
 shoot Raw,
 its Raw + Jpeg.:-)
 
 Dave
 
 
 Dave
 
 On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:43 AM, ann sanfedele
 ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
  I'm cc'ing myself to make sure I keep this
 info...
 
  Thanks for the allowance of Pentax lens on
 other camera since photos need
  to have been taken
  in 2008
 
 
  Or someone can lend me their Optio  -hehe -
 
  ann
 
 
  Mark Roberts wrote:
 
  After a flurry of emails bouncing around the globe
 and a bit of
  last-minute html/php coding, Scott Loveless, Bill
 Robb and I have decided to
  have a go at producing a PDML photo book. So
 everyone start going through
  your shots from this year and pick out your best
 work!
 
  The Plan:
  The 2008 PDML Photo Annual (yes, we want to make
 this an annual
  publication) will be a book of photos by the PDML,
 plus the annual
  quotations list. We're going to go through
 Blurb.com for printing. The book
  will probably be 8 x 10 inch landscape format,
 80-120 pages, so we expect
  the hardcover version to be around $45.00 and the
 softcover to be  around
  $35.00. These are just estimates at the moment as
 actual pricing will depend
  on bulk purchases (and some built-in profit which
 we want to donate to the
  NCCF like we do with the PDML schwag --
  http://www.cafepress.com/robertstech)
 
  Publication Date:
  We're aiming for early spring.
 
  Photos:
  Each PDML member (lurkers included!) can submit up
 to two shots. Deadline
  is tentatively January 31, 2009 or whenever we
 fill up the page count,
  whichever comes first. But we may extend the
 deadline (or page count) if
  necessary.
 
  Photos should have been shot during 2008 with a
 Pentax camera (although we
  may be willing to negotiate if you happen to have
 a monstrosity like some
  other brand camera that shoots with Pentax lenses
 modified to fit cough,
  cough).
 
  Image File Requirements:
  * File Format: JPEG
  * Color Space: sRGB (embed the ICC color profile
 if you can)
  * Maximum File Size: 3 megabytes
  * Rename your file with a unique file name
  * Image Dimensions: Max height, 2400 pixels; Max
 width, 3000 pixels
  * You may crop to any aspect ratio you like (but
 wide panos won't fit)
  * Please don't apply any sharpening to the
 image
  * Please don't add decorative borders, visible
 (or invisible) watermarks
 
  Some of these requirements are determined by Blurb
 (the color space, for
  example), some by the physical size of the book
 and some by the workflow
  we're planning on. The three editors are all
 experienced Photoshop experts
  and Bill and I have produced books through Blurb,
 so please trust us to take
  care of things like sharpening. Contact one of us
 directly if you have any
  questions or concerns.
 
  Note the request for a *unique* file name. We
 don't want things like
  IMGP5854 (default Pentax format) or
 things like untitled or really
  common phrases, because it will make file
 management difficult and raise the
  possibility of one person's image overwriting
 someone else's on the server
  or on our local drives.
 
  How to Submit Photos:
  Please don't send them by email! I've set
 up a web page where you can
  upload your photos:
  http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook.php
 
  I've tested this page on Firefox, Opera,
 Safari (latest versions) and
  Internet Explorer 5.5, 6 and 7 (it fails
 catastrophically on version 5 and
  earlier and that may or may not get fixed in the
 future...)
  If you have problems with the page please contact
 me.
 
  So hop to it! We want your *best* shots. Knock
 people's socks off!
 
 
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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Jack Davis
The committee has been issue its allotment of 'black balls' and is set to 
meet soon. ;)
You will be notified.

Jack


--- On Thu, 12/11/08, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PDML Book Project is go!
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 10:02 AM
 That's very cool.
 
 I am going to try and participate if there are no
 objections :-).
 
 Boris
 
 
 Mark Roberts wrote:
  After a flurry of emails bouncing around the globe and
 a bit of last-minute html/php coding, Scott Loveless, Bill
 Robb and I have decided to have a go at producing a PDML
 photo book. So everyone start going through your shots from
 this year and pick out your best work!
  
  The Plan:
  The 2008 PDML Photo Annual (yes, we want to make this
 an annual publication) will be a book of photos by the PDML,
 plus the annual quotations list. We're going to go
 through Blurb.com for printing. The book will probably be 8
 x 10 inch landscape format, 80-120 pages, so we expect the
 hardcover version to be around $45.00 and the softcover to
 be  around $35.00. These are just estimates at the moment as
 actual pricing will depend on bulk purchases (and some
 built-in profit which we want to donate to the NCCF like we
 do with the PDML schwag --
 http://www.cafepress.com/robertstech)
  
  Publication Date:
  We're aiming for early spring.
  
  Photos:
  Each PDML member (lurkers included!) can submit up to
 two shots. Deadline is tentatively January 31, 2009 or
 whenever we fill up the page count, whichever comes first.
 But we may extend the deadline (or page count) if necessary.
  
  Photos should have been shot during 2008 with a Pentax
 camera (although we may be willing to negotiate if you
 happen to have a monstrosity like some other brand camera
 that shoots with Pentax lenses modified to fit cough,
 cough).
  
  Image File Requirements:
  * File Format: JPEG
  * Color Space: sRGB (embed the ICC color profile if
 you can)
  * Maximum File Size: 3 megabytes
  * Rename your file with a unique file name
  * Image Dimensions: Max height, 2400 pixels; Max
 width, 3000 pixels
  * You may crop to any aspect ratio you like (but wide
 panos won't fit)
  * Please don't apply any sharpening to the image
  * Please don't add decorative borders, visible (or
 invisible) watermarks
  
  Some of these requirements are determined by Blurb
 (the color space, for example), some by the physical size of
 the book and some by the workflow we're planning on. The
 three editors are all experienced Photoshop experts and Bill
 and I have produced books through Blurb, so please trust us
 to take care of things like sharpening. Contact one of us
 directly if you have any questions or concerns.
  
  Note the request for a *unique* file name. We
 don't want things like IMGP5854 (default
 Pentax format) or things like untitled or really
 common phrases, because it will make file management
 difficult and raise the possibility of one person's
 image overwriting someone else's on the server or on our
 local drives.
  
  How to Submit Photos:
  Please don't send them by email! I've set up a
 web page where you can upload your photos:
  http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook.php
  
  I've tested this page on Firefox, Opera, Safari
 (latest versions) and Internet Explorer 5.5, 6 and 7 (it
 fails catastrophically on version 5 and earlier and that may
 or may not get fixed in the future...)
  If you have problems with the page please contact me.
  
  So hop to it! We want your *best* shots. Knock
 people's socks off!
 
 
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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Mark Roberts

Jack Davis wrote:

Mark,
I'm impressed with the willingness of you, Scott and Bill to undertake such a project. Generous of you all! 
Hope you will allow a question having to do with the no sharpening condition. At this time, I have one 2008 shot I'd like to have included in the book. The only version I have in my files is one that's been fully PS worked and burned to CD. Sharpening was a part of the PS work.

Is it a candidate for inclusion?


Sure. Send it in and we'll let you know in the unlikely event there's 
any problem with it. Quite frankly, we know most PDML members are quite 
competent to apply sharpening properly; it's just a good idea to set 
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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Mark Roberts

PN Stenquist wrote:
Sounds great. However, the request that photos not be sharpened is 
problematic. Some sharpening is part of the normal RAW conversion 
workflow. Perhaps you can just suggest that members refrain from 
excessive sharpening?


Capture sharpening is fine. Just don't add sharpening any after rezzing 
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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread PN Stenquist

Got it. That makes sense.
And thanks for taking this on.
Paul
On Dec 11, 2008, at 2:02 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


PN Stenquist wrote:
Sounds great. However, the request that photos not be sharpened is  
problematic. Some sharpening is part of the normal RAW conversion  
workflow. Perhaps you can just suggest that members refrain from  
excessive sharpening?


Capture sharpening is fine. Just don't add sharpening any after  
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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Mark Roberts

Jack Davis wrote:

The recent year's work limitation may have the effect of un-juried compromising 
stuff being submitted in desperation as the designated year winds down.
If all have control of their I want'a be included glands, the standard has a 
chance.


For this first book, we're likely to be a little flexible about the 
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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/11/2008 11:08:47 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
msrobert...@ysu.edu writes:
For this first book, we're  likely to be a little flexible about the 
timeframe requirement  :)

=
Well, that would be nice, since I sold the K100D this  year, but took a lot 
of photos with it last year.

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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 The committee has been issue its allotment of 'black balls'

They have medicine for that now.  Or so I hear.

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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread ann sanfedele

Mark Roberts wrote:


Jack Davis wrote:

The recent year's work limitation may have the effect of un-juried 
compromising stuff being submitted in desperation as the designated 
year winds down.
If all have control of their I want'a be included glands, the 
standard has a chance.



For this first book, we're likely to be a little flexible about the 
timeframe requirement :)



So if I have a shot in late 2007 that's ok?  (please please)
OF course, I might come up with something I like better in the next few 
days - but I don't think I can shoot much


ann


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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Mark.
I try to show sharpening restraint. ;)

Jack


--- On Thu, 12/11/08, Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu wrote:

 From: Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu
 Subject: Re: PDML Book Project is go!
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 10:59 AM
 Jack Davis wrote:
  Mark,
  I'm impressed with the willingness of you, Scott
 and Bill to undertake such a project. Generous of you all!
 Hope you will allow a question having to do with the
 no sharpening condition. At this time, I have
 one 2008 shot I'd like to have included in the book. The
 only version I have in my files is one that's been fully
 PS worked and burned to CD. Sharpening was a part of the PS
 work.
  Is it a candidate for inclusion?
 
 Sure. Send it in and we'll let you know in the unlikely
 event there's any problem with it. Quite frankly, we
 know most PDML members are quite competent to apply
 sharpening properly; it's just a good idea to set
 everything on as equal footing as possible. But the bottom
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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Mark Roberts

Jack Davis wrote:

The committee has been issue its allotment of 'black balls' and is set to 
meet soon. ;)
You will be notified.


Thank you. It does take a lot of balls to start a project like this...


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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Jack Davis
Champion of you and staff. Will please many..I predict.

Jack


--- On Thu, 12/11/08, Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu wrote:

 From: Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu
 Subject: Re: PDML Book Project is go!
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 11:08 AM
 Jack Davis wrote:
  The recent year's work limitation may have the
 effect of un-juried compromising stuff being submitted in
 desperation as the designated year winds down.
  If all have control of their I want'a be
 included glands, the standard has a chance.
 
 For this first book, we're likely to be a little
 flexible about the timeframe requirement :)
 
 
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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Jack Davis
It works its way up from the dread black leg carried by cattle.

Jack


--- On Thu, 12/11/08, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:

 From: Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com
 Subject: Re: PDML Book Project is go!
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 11:21 AM
 On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Jack Davis
 jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  The committee has been issue its allotment
 of 'black balls'
 
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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Jack Davis
LoL..

J


--- On Thu, 12/11/08, Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu wrote:

 From: Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu
 Subject: Re: PDML Book Project is go!
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 11:43 AM
 Jack Davis wrote:
  The committee has been issue its allotment
 of 'black balls' and is set to meet soon. ;)
  You will be notified.
 
 Thank you. It does take a lot of balls to start a project
 like this...
 
 
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RE: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread John Celio
This sounds like it's going to be really awesome.  Thanks for doing this
Mark, Bill and Scott.  I'll have a look though my stuff in the next
couple days.

Is the cover going to be a photo, or something else?  If it's not a
photo, would design submissions be welcome or do you already have that
figured out?

Thanks very much,
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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Ken Waller

Thank you. It does take a lot of balls to start a project like this...


About six it would appear.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu

Subject: Re: PDML Book Project is go!



Jack Davis wrote:
The committee has been issue its allotment of 'black balls' and is set 
to meet soon. ;)

You will be notified.


Thank you. It does take a lot of balls to start a project like this...



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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Mark Roberts

John Celio wrote:


Is the cover going to be a photo, or something else?  If it's not a
photo, would design submissions be welcome or do you already have that
figured out?


We've got plans for the cover. Still secret for now :)


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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Dario Bonazza

Mark Roberts wrote:


We've got plans for the cover. Still secret for now :)


No longer. I've cracked your machine and I've discovered the book cover 
under work:

http://www.dariobonazza.com/public/bookcover.jpg

;-)

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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Joseph McAllister

Good one, Dario!   Hardy Har!

Joseph McAllister
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On Dec 11, 2008, at 13:17 , Dario Bonazza wrote:


Mark Roberts wrote:


We've got plans for the cover. Still secret for now :)


No longer. I've cracked your machine and I've discovered the book  
cover under work:

http://www.dariobonazza.com/public/bookcover.jpg

;-)

Dario

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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Mark Roberts

Dario Bonazza wrote:

Mark Roberts wrote:


We've got plans for the cover. Still secret for now :)


No longer. I've cracked your machine and I've discovered the book cover 
under work:

http://www.dariobonazza.com/public/bookcover.jpg

;-)


Curses! Our secret is out!

We'll have to go with the full-size cormorant photo...

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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Dario Bonazza

Not bad option 2 either:
http://www.dariobonazza.com/public/bookcover2.jpg

Dario

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Subject: Re: PDML Book Project is go!



Mark Roberts wrote:


We've got plans for the cover. Still secret for now :)


No longer. I've cracked your machine and I've discovered the book cover 
under work:

http://www.dariobonazza.com/public/bookcover.jpg

;-)

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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/12/08, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:

Just shoot something with your Leica mount 43LTD.  You do have one,
don't you?

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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/12/08, John Celio, discombobulated, unleashed:

Is the cover going to be a photo, or something else?

A grab of Dave Brooks sat amongst 854 PDML caps.

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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/11/2008 1:46:17 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
cotty...@mac.com writes:
On 11/12/08, John Celio,  discombobulated, unleashed:

Is the cover going to be a photo, or  something else?

A cormorant, naturally.

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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread m.9.wilson

 eactiv...@aol.com wrote: 
 In a message dated 12/11/2008 1:46:17 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
 cotty...@mac.com writes:
 On 11/12/08, John Celio,  discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Is the cover going to be a photo, or  something else?
 
 A cormorant, naturally.

A cormorant, unnaturally, more likely.



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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 On 11/12/08, John Celio, discombobulated, unleashed:

Is the cover going to be a photo, or something else?

 A grab of Dave Brooks sat amongst 854 PDML caps.

I have more, if needed.

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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread David J Brooks
But, are we limiting submissions to pictures shot in 2008 only.??

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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Bob Sullivan
And the poor butchered lenses???

On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 On 11/12/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

(although
we may be willing to negotiate if you happen to have a monstrosity like
some other brand camera that shoots with Pentax lenses modified to fit
cough, cough).

 Revenge is a dish best served with a fatal blow to the head by a 1D mark II...


 Actually I sold it - so the only DSLR in the household is an *ist Ds !



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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Doug


On Dec 11, 2008, at 10:16 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

After a flurry of emails bouncing around the globe and a bit of last- 
minute html/php coding, Scott Loveless, Bill Robb and I have decided  
to have a go at producing a PDML photo book. So everyone start going  
through your shots from this year and pick out your best work!


huh. I dunno if I've taken two good shots this year, but I'll look.

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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I presume something photographed with a Pentax M50, 17FE, or other ...  
fitted to a camera that may or may not be a Pentax ... would be  
suitable, eh?


no sharpening ... again, I'm presuming you mean no *output*  
sharpening. Input sharpening and creative sharpening are part of the  
creation of the piece, output sharpening is what brings it to the  
right look for the target print. That last should be done in laying  
out the book.


Godfrey


On Dec 11, 2008, at 7:16 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

After a flurry of emails bouncing around the globe and a bit of last- 
minute html/php coding, Scott Loveless, Bill Robb and I have decided  
to have a go at producing a PDML photo book. So everyone start going  
through your shots from this year and pick out your best work!


The Plan:
The 2008 PDML Photo Annual (yes, we want to make this an annual  
publication) will be a book of photos by the PDML, plus the annual  
quotations list. We're going to go through Blurb.com for printing.  
The book will probably be 8 x 10 inch landscape format, 80-120  
pages, so we expect the hardcover version to be around $45.00 and  
the softcover to be  around $35.00. These are just estimates at the  
moment as actual pricing will depend on bulk purchases (and some  
built-in profit which we want to donate to the NCCF like we do with  
the PDML schwag -- http://www.cafepress.com/robertstech)


Publication Date:
We're aiming for early spring.

Photos:
Each PDML member (lurkers included!) can submit up to two shots.  
Deadline is tentatively January 31, 2009 or whenever we fill up the  
page count, whichever comes first. But we may extend the deadline  
(or page count) if necessary.


Photos should have been shot during 2008 with a Pentax camera  
(although we may be willing to negotiate if you happen to have a  
monstrosity like some other brand camera that shoots with Pentax  
lenses modified to fit cough, cough).


Image File Requirements:
* File Format: JPEG
* Color Space: sRGB (embed the ICC color profile if you can)
* Maximum File Size: 3 megabytes
* Rename your file with a unique file name
* Image Dimensions: Max height, 2400 pixels; Max width, 3000 pixels
* You may crop to any aspect ratio you like (but wide panos won't fit)
* Please don't apply any sharpening to the image
* Please don't add decorative borders, visible (or invisible)  
watermarks


Some of these requirements are determined by Blurb (the color space,  
for example), some by the physical size of the book and some by the  
workflow we're planning on. The three editors are all experienced  
Photoshop experts and Bill and I have produced books through Blurb,  
so please trust us to take care of things like sharpening. Contact  
one of us directly if you have any questions or concerns.


Note the request for a *unique* file name. We don't want things like  
IMGP5854 (default Pentax format) or things like untitled or  
really common phrases, because it will make file management  
difficult and raise the possibility of one person's image  
overwriting someone else's on the server or on our local drives.


How to Submit Photos:
Please don't send them by email! I've set up a web page where you  
can upload your photos:

http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook.php

I've tested this page on Firefox, Opera, Safari (latest versions)  
and Internet Explorer 5.5, 6 and 7 (it fails catastrophically on  
version 5 and earlier and that may or may not get fixed in the  
future...)

If you have problems with the page please contact me.

So hop to it! We want your *best* shots. Knock people's socks off!


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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Stan Halpin

Thanks Mark! And Bob and Scott!

On Dec 11, 2008, at 9:16 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

After a flurry of emails bouncing around the globe and a bit of  
last-minute html/php coding, Scott Loveless, Bill Robb and I have  
decided to have a go at producing a PDML photo book. So everyone  
start going through your shots from this year and pick out your  
best work!


The Plan:
The 2008 PDML Photo Annual (yes, we want to make this an annual  
publication) will be a book of photos by the PDML, plus the annual  
quotations list. We're going to go through Blurb.com for printing.  
The book will probably be 8 x 10 inch landscape format, 80-120  
pages, so we expect the hardcover version to be around $45.00 and  
the softcover to be  around $35.00. These are just estimates at the  
moment as actual pricing will depend on bulk purchases (and some  
built-in profit which we want to donate to the NCCF like we do with  
the PDML schwag -- http://www.cafepress.com/robertstech)


Publication Date:
We're aiming for early spring.

Photos:
Each PDML member (lurkers included!) can submit up to two shots.  
Deadline is tentatively January 31, 2009 or whenever we fill up the  
page count, whichever comes first. But we may extend the deadline  
(or page count) if necessary.


Photos should have been shot during 2008 with a Pentax camera  
(although we may be willing to negotiate if you happen to have a  
monstrosity like some other brand camera that shoots with Pentax  
lenses modified to fit cough, cough).


Image File Requirements:
* File Format: JPEG
* Color Space: sRGB (embed the ICC color profile if you can)
* Maximum File Size: 3 megabytes
* Rename your file with a unique file name
* Image Dimensions: Max height, 2400 pixels; Max width, 3000 pixels
* You may crop to any aspect ratio you like (but wide panos won't fit)
* Please don't apply any sharpening to the image
* Please don't add decorative borders, visible (or invisible)  
watermarks


Some of these requirements are determined by Blurb (the color  
space, for example), some by the physical size of the book and some  
by the workflow we're planning on. The three editors are all  
experienced Photoshop experts and Bill and I have produced books  
through Blurb, so please trust us to take care of things like  
sharpening. Contact one of us directly if you have any questions or  
concerns.


Note the request for a *unique* file name. We don't want things  
like IMGP5854 (default Pentax format) or things like untitled  
or really common phrases, because it will make file management  
difficult and raise the possibility of one person's image  
overwriting someone else's on the server or on our local drives.


How to Submit Photos:
Please don't send them by email! I've set up a web page where you  
can upload your photos:

http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook.php

I've tested this page on Firefox, Opera, Safari (latest versions)  
and Internet Explorer 5.5, 6 and 7 (it fails catastrophically on  
version 5 and earlier and that may or may not get fixed in the  
future...)

If you have problems with the page please contact me.

So hop to it! We want your *best* shots. Knock people's socks off!


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Re: PDML Book Project is go!

2008-12-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/12/08, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed:

And the poor butchered lenses???

Oh they are safe and sound with me. I'm hanging onto them for when I get
a 36X24mm sensor camera - whether Canon or Pentax. Thing is, if Pentax,
I won't have a hat ;-)

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