Re: PESO: Another "Different" Shot
Unfortunately different doesn't always make a good photograph, (you could look at my entire body of work for example). Jack Davis wrote: > This was once an active practice range which is located in a river > bottom. It struggled for awhile, but was done in by gross > mismanagement. > This pretty much describes my golf game. Out of bounds, in the rough > under a brooding mantle. > I thought the debris, etc., included in the foreground enforced the > mood. > Plywood golfer is how we all 'pose' when we think we've hit an > impressive shot...and someones watching. ;) > > Jack > > Comments sought. > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=258 > > K10D, FA 80~320, ISO 100 > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- The difference between individual intelligence and group intelligence is the difference between Harvard University and the Harvard University football team. -- P. J. O'Roark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Another "Different" Shot
No, it isn't very good, but it's sure crappy! Jack --- "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unfortunately different doesn't always make a good photograph, (you > could look at my entire body of work for example). > > Jack Davis wrote: > > This was once an active practice range which is located in a river > > bottom. It struggled for awhile, but was done in by gross > > mismanagement. > > This pretty much describes my golf game. Out of bounds, in the > rough > > under a brooding mantle. > > I thought the debris, etc., included in the foreground enforced the > > mood. > > Plywood golfer is how we all 'pose' when we think we've hit an > > impressive shot...and someones watching. ;) > > > > Jack > > > > Comments sought. > > > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=258 > > > > K10D, FA 80~320, ISO 100 > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > -- > The difference between individual intelligence and group intelligence > is the difference between Harvard University and the Harvard > University football team. > > -- P. J. O'Roark > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and follow the directions. > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Another "Different" Shot
Was an experiment just for reactions. Thanks, Bob Jack --- Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jack, > Link works about 1 of 3 times for me. > No problem though, I don't care much for the picture... > The rest of your stuff is so much better. > Regards, Bob S. > > On Nov 13, 2007 6:56 PM, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks, Ann! > > It is such a hodge podge and didn't concern myself with that white > > thing lower left. I, also, thought the debris at the bottom suited > the > > scene. > > Certainly could be easily cropped out with a nip on the right to > > balance it a little. > > > > Jack > > > > > > > > --- ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Jack Davis wrote: > > > > > > >This was once an active practice range which is located in a > river > > > >bottom. It struggled for awhile, but was done in by gross > > > >mismanagement. > > > >This pretty much describes my golf game. Out of bounds, in the > rough > > > >under a brooding mantle. > > > >I thought the debris, etc., included in the foreground enforced > the > > > >mood. > > > >Plywood golfer is how we all 'pose' when we think we've hit an > > > >impressive shot...and someones watching. ;) > > > > > > > >Jack > > > > > > > >Comments sought. > > > > > > > >http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=258 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LIke it - although, would work fine in BW hmmm - yeah, might > have a > > > bit > > > more impact but its nice as is... > > > certainly ummm wait a min - one nit -- the can or whatever it is > at > > > the > > > bottom left... I think a bit of cropping would > > > make this alrady nice snap stronger. > > > > > > ann > > > > > > > > > > >__ > > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > PDML@pdml.net > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly > above > > > and follow the directions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and follow the directions. > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and follow the directions. > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Another "Different" Shot
Jack, Link works about 1 of 3 times for me. No problem though, I don't care much for the picture... The rest of your stuff is so much better. Regards, Bob S. On Nov 13, 2007 6:56 PM, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks, Ann! > It is such a hodge podge and didn't concern myself with that white > thing lower left. I, also, thought the debris at the bottom suited the > scene. > Certainly could be easily cropped out with a nip on the right to > balance it a little. > > Jack > > > > --- ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Jack Davis wrote: > > > > >This was once an active practice range which is located in a river > > >bottom. It struggled for awhile, but was done in by gross > > >mismanagement. > > >This pretty much describes my golf game. Out of bounds, in the rough > > >under a brooding mantle. > > >I thought the debris, etc., included in the foreground enforced the > > >mood. > > >Plywood golfer is how we all 'pose' when we think we've hit an > > >impressive shot...and someones watching. ;) > > > > > >Jack > > > > > >Comments sought. > > > > > >http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=258 > > > > > > > > > > LIke it - although, would work fine in BW hmmm - yeah, might have a > > bit > > more impact but its nice as is... > > certainly ummm wait a min - one nit -- the can or whatever it is at > > the > > bottom left... I think a bit of cropping would > > make this alrady nice snap stronger. > > > > ann > > > > > > > >__ > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > > and follow the directions. > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Another "Different" Shot
Thanks, Ann! It is such a hodge podge and didn't concern myself with that white thing lower left. I, also, thought the debris at the bottom suited the scene. Certainly could be easily cropped out with a nip on the right to balance it a little. Jack --- ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jack Davis wrote: > > >This was once an active practice range which is located in a river > >bottom. It struggled for awhile, but was done in by gross > >mismanagement. > >This pretty much describes my golf game. Out of bounds, in the rough > >under a brooding mantle. > >I thought the debris, etc., included in the foreground enforced the > >mood. > >Plywood golfer is how we all 'pose' when we think we've hit an > >impressive shot...and someones watching. ;) > > > >Jack > > > >Comments sought. > > > >http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=258 > > > > > > LIke it - although, would work fine in BW hmmm - yeah, might have a > bit > more impact but its nice as is... > certainly ummm wait a min - one nit -- the can or whatever it is at > the > bottom left... I think a bit of cropping would > make this alrady nice snap stronger. > > ann > > > > >__ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and follow the directions. > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Another "Different" Shot
Jack Davis wrote: >This was once an active practice range which is located in a river >bottom. It struggled for awhile, but was done in by gross >mismanagement. >This pretty much describes my golf game. Out of bounds, in the rough >under a brooding mantle. >I thought the debris, etc., included in the foreground enforced the >mood. >Plywood golfer is how we all 'pose' when we think we've hit an >impressive shot...and someones watching. ;) > >Jack > >Comments sought. > >http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=258 > > LIke it - although, would work fine in BW hmmm - yeah, might have a bit more impact but its nice as is... certainly ummm wait a min - one nit -- the can or whatever it is at the bottom left... I think a bit of cropping would make this alrady nice snap stronger. ann > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Another "Different" Shot
Actually, I think as a "picture" it's trash. That was the idea.;) I offered it for those who like working with sow's ears. ;) Jack Jack --- Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree with Charles, here. > > Maybe in late afternoon or early morning light and a lower angle so > that the golfer is depicted against the sky.. > > But the fence probably limits the possibilities. > > > Cheers > > Brian > > ++ > Brian Walters > Western Sydney, Australia > http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ > http://www.blognow.com.au/peso1/ > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/brianwalters > > Quoting Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Nov 12, 2007, at 9:40, Jack Davis wrote: > > > > > This was once an active practice range which is located in a > > river > > > bottom. It struggled for awhile, but was done in by gross > > > mismanagement. > > > This pretty much describes my golf game. Out of bounds, in the > > rough > > > under a brooding mantle. > > > I thought the debris, etc., included in the foreground enforced > > the > > > mood. > > > Plywood golfer is how we all 'pose' when we think we've hit an > > > impressive shot...and someones watching. ;) > > > > > > > It may work for you as it is a place you know, but to the > > uninitiated > > (or at least ME) it just looks like a jumble. Nothing really > > catches > > my eye. > > > > -Charles > > > > -- > > Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Minneapolis, MN > > http://charles.robinsontwins.org > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > > and follow the directions. > > > > -- > Free pop3 email with a spam filter. > http://www.bluebottle.com/tag/5 > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and follow the directions. > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Another "Different" Shot
I agree with Charles, here. Maybe in late afternoon or early morning light and a lower angle so that the golfer is depicted against the sky.. But the fence probably limits the possibilities. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney, Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ http://www.blognow.com.au/peso1/ http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/brianwalters Quoting Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Nov 12, 2007, at 9:40, Jack Davis wrote: > > > This was once an active practice range which is located in a > river > > bottom. It struggled for awhile, but was done in by gross > > mismanagement. > > This pretty much describes my golf game. Out of bounds, in the > rough > > under a brooding mantle. > > I thought the debris, etc., included in the foreground enforced > the > > mood. > > Plywood golfer is how we all 'pose' when we think we've hit an > > impressive shot...and someones watching. ;) > > > > It may work for you as it is a place you know, but to the > uninitiated > (or at least ME) it just looks like a jumble. Nothing really > catches > my eye. > > -Charles > > -- > Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Minneapolis, MN > http://charles.robinsontwins.org > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and follow the directions. > -- Free pop3 email with a spam filter. http://www.bluebottle.com/tag/5 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Another "Different" Shot
Thanks for your input, Charles. Incidentally, me too. This 4-shot series was a very limited experiment. Jack --- Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 12, 2007, at 9:40, Jack Davis wrote: > > > This was once an active practice range which is located in a river > > bottom. It struggled for awhile, but was done in by gross > > mismanagement. > > This pretty much describes my golf game. Out of bounds, in the > rough > > under a brooding mantle. > > I thought the debris, etc., included in the foreground enforced the > > mood. > > Plywood golfer is how we all 'pose' when we think we've hit an > > impressive shot...and someones watching. ;) > > > > It may work for you as it is a place you know, but to the uninitiated > > (or at least ME) it just looks like a jumble. Nothing really catches > > my eye. > > -Charles > > -- > Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Minneapolis, MN > http://charles.robinsontwins.org > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and follow the directions. > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Another "Different" Shot
On Nov 12, 2007, at 9:40, Jack Davis wrote: > This was once an active practice range which is located in a river > bottom. It struggled for awhile, but was done in by gross > mismanagement. > This pretty much describes my golf game. Out of bounds, in the rough > under a brooding mantle. > I thought the debris, etc., included in the foreground enforced the > mood. > Plywood golfer is how we all 'pose' when we think we've hit an > impressive shot...and someones watching. ;) > It may work for you as it is a place you know, but to the uninitiated (or at least ME) it just looks like a jumble. Nothing really catches my eye. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Another "Different" Shot
Thank you, Marnie. Actually, this was only a test grab that is headed for the trash bin. I don't think even your valued advice can save it. :) Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 11/12/2007 7:42:32 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > This was once an active practice range which is located in a river > bottom. It struggled for awhile, but was done in by gross > mismanagement. > This pretty much describes my golf game. Out of bounds, in the rough > under a brooding mantle. > I thought the debris, etc., included in the foreground enforced the > mood. > Plywood golfer is how we all 'pose' when we think we've hit an > impressive shot...and someones watching. ;) > > Jack > > Comments sought. > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=258 > > K10D, FA 80~320, ISO 100 > > == > This might work cropped, Jack. Otherwise think the scene is too > busy. I'd > suggest a crop that removes the trash and ground, probably a crop of > just to > the center section of the fence. Either including the side poles in > the center > section and/or excluding them. Not necessarily losing all the sky. > Although > Paul may be right, even then it may need some difference in DOF > between front > and back. But I'd crop it heavily. > > HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-) > > > > - > Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. > > > > > ** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and follow the directions. > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Another "Different" Shot
I totally agree. Thanks for the input. FTR, that background building is the abandoned clubhouse. In the interest of "so what", it's all located in a river bottom between two levees. Some years, the flood waters reach the peak of the roof. BTW, it's, also, indicative of the condition of a couple of our local courses. :) Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Your story makes this interesting, but I don't think it works as a > photograph. It might work better if you were tighter on the plywood > golfer and let the background go somewhat out of focus. But it's a > difficult situation with all the business of the scene. > Paul > -- Original message -- > From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > This was once an active practice range which is located in a river > > bottom. It struggled for awhile, but was done in by gross > > mismanagement. > > This pretty much describes my golf game. Out of bounds, in the > rough > > under a brooding mantle. > > I thought the debris, etc., included in the foreground enforced the > > mood. > > Plywood golfer is how we all 'pose' when we think we've hit an > > impressive shot...and someones watching. ;) > > > > Jack > > > > Comments sought. > > > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=258 > > > > K10D, FA 80~320, ISO 100 > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and follow > > the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and follow the directions. > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Another "Different" Shot
In a message dated 11/12/2007 7:42:32 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This was once an active practice range which is located in a river bottom. It struggled for awhile, but was done in by gross mismanagement. This pretty much describes my golf game. Out of bounds, in the rough under a brooding mantle. I thought the debris, etc., included in the foreground enforced the mood. Plywood golfer is how we all 'pose' when we think we've hit an impressive shot...and someones watching. ;) Jack Comments sought. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=258 K10D, FA 80~320, ISO 100 == This might work cropped, Jack. Otherwise think the scene is too busy. I'd suggest a crop that removes the trash and ground, probably a crop of just to the center section of the fence. Either including the side poles in the center section and/or excluding them. Not necessarily losing all the sky. Although Paul may be right, even then it may need some difference in DOF between front and back. But I'd crop it heavily. HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Another "Different" Shot
Your story makes this interesting, but I don't think it works as a photograph. It might work better if you were tighter on the plywood golfer and let the background go somewhat out of focus. But it's a difficult situation with all the business of the scene. Paul -- Original message -- From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This was once an active practice range which is located in a river > bottom. It struggled for awhile, but was done in by gross > mismanagement. > This pretty much describes my golf game. Out of bounds, in the rough > under a brooding mantle. > I thought the debris, etc., included in the foreground enforced the > mood. > Plywood golfer is how we all 'pose' when we think we've hit an > impressive shot...and someones watching. ;) > > Jack > > Comments sought. > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=258 > > K10D, FA 80~320, ISO 100 > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Another "Different" Shot
This was once an active practice range which is located in a river bottom. It struggled for awhile, but was done in by gross mismanagement. This pretty much describes my golf game. Out of bounds, in the rough under a brooding mantle. I thought the debris, etc., included in the foreground enforced the mood. Plywood golfer is how we all 'pose' when we think we've hit an impressive shot...and someones watching. ;) Jack Comments sought. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=258 K10D, FA 80~320, ISO 100 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
