Re: PESO: Cloning Exercise
Thanks, Larry. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 10:16 PM Larry Colen wrote: > > > Postmaster wrote on 5/9/19 6:11 PM: > > Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > > The way to work something like this is to avoid as much cloning as > > possible: Copy and paste and use transforms to make the replacement > > patches work. Do as much work as you can this way and then move on to > > the clone tool. Then use the healing tools in places where they'll > > work better than the clone stamp. > > > > Here's my effort: https://www.robertstech.com/temp/dan.jpg > > Excellent, I haven't noticed those tools in lightroom, which is what I > use and I believe Dan does as well. But then, it's been years since I > actually read a lightroom manual, hell it's been years since there has > been a lightroom manual. Where would I find them? > > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Cloning Exercise
Much better than mine! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 9:12 PM Postmaster wrote: > Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > >After giving some more thought to the comments by Paul Stenquist and > Bulent > >about using the clone tool to remove ugly distractions from an otherwise > >interesting image, I decided to give it a try. This is an image of one of > >the nicer Victorian houses in Cape May, with my first rough effort to > clean > >it up: > > > >http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/5/9/victorians > > > >I realize it needs more work, but it was an interesting experiment. > >Comments and criticisms are both invited and welcomed. > > The way to work something like this is to avoid as much cloning as > possible: Copy and paste and use transforms to make the replacement > patches work. Do as much work as you can this way and then move on to > the clone tool. Then use the healing tools in places where they'll > work better than the clone stamp. > > Here's my effort: https://www.robertstech.com/temp/dan.jpg > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Cloning Exercise
Postmaster wrote on 5/9/19 6:11 PM: Daniel J. Matyola wrote: The way to work something like this is to avoid as much cloning as possible: Copy and paste and use transforms to make the replacement patches work. Do as much work as you can this way and then move on to the clone tool. Then use the healing tools in places where they'll work better than the clone stamp. Here's my effort: https://www.robertstech.com/temp/dan.jpg Excellent, I haven't noticed those tools in lightroom, which is what I use and I believe Dan does as well. But then, it's been years since I actually read a lightroom manual, hell it's been years since there has been a lightroom manual. Where would I find them? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Cloning Exercise
Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >After giving some more thought to the comments by Paul Stenquist and Bulent >about using the clone tool to remove ugly distractions from an otherwise >interesting image, I decided to give it a try. This is an image of one of >the nicer Victorian houses in Cape May, with my first rough effort to clean >it up: > >http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/5/9/victorians > >I realize it needs more work, but it was an interesting experiment. >Comments and criticisms are both invited and welcomed. The way to work something like this is to avoid as much cloning as possible: Copy and paste and use transforms to make the replacement patches work. Do as much work as you can this way and then move on to the clone tool. Then use the healing tools in places where they'll work better than the clone stamp. Here's my effort: https://www.robertstech.com/temp/dan.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Cloning Exercise
Thanks, Godfrey! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 12:11 PM Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Pretty nice job, Dan! > > I used to do a lot of this kind of thing but my photography has changed > such that I mostly just spot here and there, and only once in a while now. > Photoshop (and a few others) does this stuff pretty well, with a whole > array of tools at your disposal. But it always takes time and effort to get > nice results. > > Lightroom's tools are not as exacting and complete, but do pretty well for > most of what I need now. I haven't touched Photoshop in several years at > this point, don't think I even remember how to make the magic happen any > more! > > G > > > Daniel J. Matyola wrote on 5/9/19 8:29 AM: > >> I agree, Paul. I started to fall asleep and stopped at this point. If > I > >> am going to work on the telephone pole and the roofline, I will start > all > >> over again from scratch, as there are many faults in what is there now. > >> Dan Matyola > >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > >> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 7:46 AM Paul Stenquist > >> wrote: > >>> Good start. Now clone in the roofline at the bottom of the window and > >>> clone out the telephone pole. > >>> > >>> Paul > >>> > On May 9, 2019, at 4:10 AM, Alan C wrote: > > Dan, I've tried it a few times with results similar to yours. I think > >>> one needs a lot of practice & patience to really get it right. > > Alan C > > > On 09-May-19 06:43 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > After giving some more thought to the comments by Paul Stenquist and > >>> Bulent > > about using the clone tool to remove ugly distractions from an > otherwise > > interesting image, I decided to give it a try. This is an image of > one > >>> of > > the nicer Victorian houses in Cape May, with my first rough effort to > >>> clean > > it up: > > > > > >>> > http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/5/9/victorians > > > > I realize it needs more work, but it was an interesting experiment. > > Comments and criticisms are both invited and welcomed. > > > > > > Dan Matyola > > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Cloning Exercise
Pretty nice job, Dan! I used to do a lot of this kind of thing but my photography has changed such that I mostly just spot here and there, and only once in a while now. Photoshop (and a few others) does this stuff pretty well, with a whole array of tools at your disposal. But it always takes time and effort to get nice results. Lightroom's tools are not as exacting and complete, but do pretty well for most of what I need now. I haven't touched Photoshop in several years at this point, don't think I even remember how to make the magic happen any more! G > Daniel J. Matyola wrote on 5/9/19 8:29 AM: >> I agree, Paul. I started to fall asleep and stopped at this point. If I >> am going to work on the telephone pole and the roofline, I will start all >> over again from scratch, as there are many faults in what is there now. >> Dan Matyola >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola >> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 7:46 AM Paul Stenquist >> wrote: >>> Good start. Now clone in the roofline at the bottom of the window and >>> clone out the telephone pole. >>> >>> Paul >>> On May 9, 2019, at 4:10 AM, Alan C wrote: Dan, I've tried it a few times with results similar to yours. I think >>> one needs a lot of practice & patience to really get it right. Alan C > On 09-May-19 06:43 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > After giving some more thought to the comments by Paul Stenquist and >>> Bulent > about using the clone tool to remove ugly distractions from an otherwise > interesting image, I decided to give it a try. This is an image of one >>> of > the nicer Victorian houses in Cape May, with my first rough effort to >>> clean > it up: > > >>> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/5/9/victorians > > I realize it needs more work, but it was an interesting experiment. > Comments and criticisms are both invited and welcomed. > > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Cloning Exercise
I use the clone and heal brushes to remove things in lightroom. I find that they work best on plain background, such as the sky, and I frequently have to readjust where the source image comes from to get the background color right, or to make the lines straight along the edge of something. It often helps to do it in smaller pieces. Daniel J. Matyola wrote on 5/9/19 8:29 AM: I agree, Paul. I started to fall asleep and stopped at this point. If I am going to work on the telephone pole and the roofline, I will start all over again from scratch, as there are many faults in what is there now. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 7:46 AM Paul Stenquist wrote: Good start. Now clone in the roofline at the bottom of the window and clone out the telephone pole. Paul On May 9, 2019, at 4:10 AM, Alan C wrote: Dan, I've tried it a few times with results similar to yours. I think one needs a lot of practice & patience to really get it right. Alan C On 09-May-19 06:43 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: After giving some more thought to the comments by Paul Stenquist and Bulent about using the clone tool to remove ugly distractions from an otherwise interesting image, I decided to give it a try. This is an image of one of the nicer Victorian houses in Cape May, with my first rough effort to clean it up: http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/5/9/victorians I realize it needs more work, but it was an interesting experiment. Comments and criticisms are both invited and welcomed. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Cloning Exercise
I agree, Paul. I started to fall asleep and stopped at this point. If I am going to work on the telephone pole and the roofline, I will start all over again from scratch, as there are many faults in what is there now. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 7:46 AM Paul Stenquist wrote: > Good start. Now clone in the roofline at the bottom of the window and > clone out the telephone pole. > > Paul > > > On May 9, 2019, at 4:10 AM, Alan C wrote: > > > > Dan, I've tried it a few times with results similar to yours. I think > one needs a lot of practice & patience to really get it right. > > > > Alan C > > > >> On 09-May-19 06:43 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > >> After giving some more thought to the comments by Paul Stenquist and > Bulent > >> about using the clone tool to remove ugly distractions from an otherwise > >> interesting image, I decided to give it a try. This is an image of one > of > >> the nicer Victorian houses in Cape May, with my first rough effort to > clean > >> it up: > >> > >> > http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/5/9/victorians > >> > >> I realize it needs more work, but it was an interesting experiment. > >> Comments and criticisms are both invited and welcomed. > >> > >> > >> Dan Matyola > >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Cloning Exercise
It takes a lot of time, a lot of patience, and a very steady hand. I lack all three. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 4:11 AM Alan C wrote: > Dan, I've tried it a few times with results similar to yours. I think > one needs a lot of practice & patience to really get it right. > > Alan C > > On 09-May-19 06:43 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > After giving some more thought to the comments by Paul Stenquist and > Bulent > > about using the clone tool to remove ugly distractions from an otherwise > > interesting image, I decided to give it a try. This is an image of one > of > > the nicer Victorian houses in Cape May, with my first rough effort to > clean > > it up: > > > > http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/5/9/victorians > > > > I realize it needs more work, but it was an interesting experiment. > > Comments and criticisms are both invited and welcomed. > > > > > > Dan Matyola > > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Cloning Exercise
Good start. Now clone in the roofline at the bottom of the window and clone out the telephone pole. Paul > On May 9, 2019, at 4:10 AM, Alan C wrote: > > Dan, I've tried it a few times with results similar to yours. I think one > needs a lot of practice & patience to really get it right. > > Alan C > >> On 09-May-19 06:43 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >> After giving some more thought to the comments by Paul Stenquist and Bulent >> about using the clone tool to remove ugly distractions from an otherwise >> interesting image, I decided to give it a try. This is an image of one of >> the nicer Victorian houses in Cape May, with my first rough effort to clean >> it up: >> >> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/5/9/victorians >> >> I realize it needs more work, but it was an interesting experiment. >> Comments and criticisms are both invited and welcomed. >> >> >> Dan Matyola >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Cloning Exercise
Dan, I've tried it a few times with results similar to yours. I think one needs a lot of practice & patience to really get it right. Alan C On 09-May-19 06:43 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: After giving some more thought to the comments by Paul Stenquist and Bulent about using the clone tool to remove ugly distractions from an otherwise interesting image, I decided to give it a try. This is an image of one of the nicer Victorian houses in Cape May, with my first rough effort to clean it up: http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/5/9/victorians I realize it needs more work, but it was an interesting experiment. Comments and criticisms are both invited and welcomed. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Cloning Exercise
On 5/9/2019 00:43:08, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: After giving some more thought to the comments by Paul Stenquist and Bulent about using the clone tool to remove ugly distractions from an otherwise interesting image, I decided to give it a try. This is an image of one of the nicer Victorian houses in Cape May, with my first rough effort to clean it up: http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/5/9/victorians I realize it needs more work, but it was an interesting experiment. Comments and criticisms are both invited and welcomed. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola One way you can do that is to take two photos of the house and use parallax to remove unwanted foreground elements. There used to be a TON of online tutorials on how to do that, but they appear to have all gone away with CC & "content-aware" cloning -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Cloning Exercise
After giving some more thought to the comments by Paul Stenquist and Bulent about using the clone tool to remove ugly distractions from an otherwise interesting image, I decided to give it a try. This is an image of one of the nicer Victorian houses in Cape May, with my first rough effort to clean it up: http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/5/9/victorians I realize it needs more work, but it was an interesting experiment. Comments and criticisms are both invited and welcomed. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.