Re: PESO: my favourite hell-hole
I like it! I have to say I usually like industrial pics, and nightshots. This one is both, I _have_ to like it! lol I can't argue on metering, since my monitor is far-far away from a well calibrated one (I'm at work, now), but it seems ok to me, and I can barely see any distorsion (and just because you named it) maybe posing the landline a little more to the bottom would have improved it, IMO, but then prospective distorsion is what you'd get, probably, expecially with the horrible distorted lens you have (lol) cheers, Danilo.
Re: PESO: my favourite hell-hole
Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have produced one for use with the 1.53x sensors but not for full frame, it > wouldn't take too much tweaking though: Great. Thanks. :-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses
Re: PESO: my favourite hell-hole
On 25 Nov 2005 at 8:20, Boris Liberman wrote: > Ralf, you can find a PTLens profile for this lens that would probably > correct most of the distortions. I have produced one for use with the 1.53x sensors but not for full frame, it wouldn't take too much tweaking though: begin lens group: pentaxSLR multiplier: 1.5 menu_lens: A24mm f/2.8 cal_abc: 24.0 0.00 -0.007250 0.00 end Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: PESO: my favourite hell-hole
Hi! First results with the new toys: http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1145051 Arcelor's coking plant in Seraing, Belgium. Nothing extraordinary in this shot, BTW. Just normal routine operation with a few badly sealed oven doors and a bit of excess gas being flared off in the background. Never mind the 50,000 people living within a two mile radius. Comments on the shot are welcome. As expected, the LX's light metering has proven itself totally inadequate with such scenery. It suggested 8 secs while at least 30 are needed to get some detail into the shadows and 60 secs is about right. Yet, nothing to be ashamed of. I've never sen anything meter correctly under such conditions. I'd be quite happy if there weren't this nasty barrel distorsion of the 24 mm lens. Contrary to the details given on the linked page, it's the A2.8/24 mm. Anything else in this focal range that would be a little more linear? Ralf, you can find a PTLens profile for this lens that would probably correct most of the distortions. OTOH, the picture you showed us is definitely very apocalyptic... Brrr... Boris
Re: PESO: my favourite hell-hole
On 11/22/05, Ralf R. Radermacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First results with the new toys: > > http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1145051 That's one mother of a shot!! There are steel mills about 50 miles from here, in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. There's a large bridge that goes over the harbour, and from that bridge there is an impressive view of the mills. I've always wanted to shoot them, especially at night, but have never made the opportunity to do so. This reminds me that I'll have to do so some day. In my mind's eye, my shots look as good as yours (but I doubt they ever would). I've always thought that these places are like hell on earth. You've captured that other-worldliness very well. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO: my favourite hell-hole
Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: First results with the new toys: http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1145051 Arcelor's coking plant in Seraing, Belgium. Nothing extraordinary in this shot, BTW. Just normal routine operation with a few badly sealed oven doors and a bit of excess gas being flared off in the background. Never mind the 50,000 people living within a two mile radius. Comments on the shot are welcome. As expected, the LX's light metering has proven itself totally inadequate with such scenery. It suggested 8 secs while at least 30 are needed to get some detail into the shadows and 60 secs is about right. Yet, nothing to be ashamed of. I've never sen anything meter correctly under such conditions. I'd be quite happy if there weren't this nasty barrel distorsion of the 24 mm lens. Contrary to the details given on the linked page, it's the A2.8/24 mm. Anything else in this focal range that would be a little more linear? Ralf Hi Ralf, Great shot. I get a sense of the place madly huffing and puffing away when I look at it. Ciao, P
Re: PESO: my favourite hell-hole
Ralf, I have a K 24mm f/2.8 I'll trade.(?) Jack --- "Ralf R. Radermacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First results with the new toys: > > http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1145051 > > Arcelor's coking plant in Seraing, Belgium. Nothing extraordinary in > this shot, BTW. Just normal routine operation with a few badly sealed > oven doors and a bit of excess gas being flared off in the > background. > Never mind the 50,000 people living within a two mile radius. > > Comments on the shot are welcome. > > As expected, the LX's light metering has proven itself totally > inadequate with such scenery. It suggested 8 secs while at least 30 > are > needed to get some detail into the shadows and 60 secs is about > right. > Yet, nothing to be ashamed of. I've never sen anything meter > correctly > under such conditions. > > I'd be quite happy if there weren't this nasty barrel distorsion of > the > 24 mm lens. Contrary to the details given on the linked page, it's > the > A2.8/24 mm. > > Anything else in this focal range that would be a little more linear? > > > Ralf > > -- > Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany > private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de > manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 > Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses > > __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
Re: PESO: my favourite hell-hole
On 22 Nov 2005 at 20:41, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: > I'd be quite happy if there weren't this nasty barrel distorsion of the > 24 mm lens. Contrary to the details given on the linked page, it's the > A2.8/24 mm. > > Anything else in this focal range that would be a little more linear? Anything else will actually be worse, the A24/2.8 is one of the better lenses relative to geometric distortion, of course if you are scanning and printing digitally this is easy to remedy using the PTLens PS plugin. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: PESO: my favourite hell-hole
On 22 Nov 2005 at 15:26, Adam Maas wrote: > Great shot. > > I will note that it's most likely not the LX's meter that is at fault > for the exposure, but rather the reciprocity characteristics of the > film, which has cost you about 3 stops of speed at that point. You need > to compensate for reciprocity on exposures like this, but once you know > the necessary adjustment, you can dial that in via the ISO setting. Any suggested under-exposure in this image obviously has little to do with the reciprocity characteristic of the film and is all to do with the bright lights in the scene vs meter sensitivity/response pattern. That said it's also easy to see that exposing to reveal the shadow detail would have meant that all the lights would have burned in and the shot would have been ruined. I think the metering was actually fine in this case. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: PESO: my favourite hell-hole
Ralf, Very pleasing and well composed scene! Something there for all senses. Center weighted LX meter no doubt reacted to the fairly bright (if somewhat off-center) reflections. Too bad a matrix option wasn't available. I'm still looking for the "barrel distortion." Maybe my monitor suffers from a slight bit of pincushion? Jack --- "Ralf R. Radermacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First results with the new toys: > > http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1145051 > > Arcelor's coking plant in Seraing, Belgium. Nothing extraordinary in > this shot, BTW. Just normal routine operation with a few badly sealed > oven doors and a bit of excess gas being flared off in the > background. > Never mind the 50,000 people living within a two mile radius. > > Comments on the shot are welcome. > > As expected, the LX's light metering has proven itself totally > inadequate with such scenery. It suggested 8 secs while at least 30 > are > needed to get some detail into the shadows and 60 secs is about > right. > Yet, nothing to be ashamed of. I've never sen anything meter > correctly > under such conditions. > > I'd be quite happy if there weren't this nasty barrel distorsion of > the > 24 mm lens. Contrary to the details given on the linked page, it's > the > A2.8/24 mm. > > Anything else in this focal range that would be a little more linear? > > > Ralf > > -- > Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany > private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de > manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 > Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses > > __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO: my favourite hell-hole
Great shot. I will note that it's most likely not the LX's meter that is at fault for the exposure, but rather the reciprocity characteristics of the film, which has cost you about 3 stops of speed at that point. You need to compensate for reciprocity on exposures like this, but once you know the necessary adjustment, you can dial that in via the ISO setting. -Adam Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: First results with the new toys: http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1145051 Arcelor's coking plant in Seraing, Belgium. Nothing extraordinary in this shot, BTW. Just normal routine operation with a few badly sealed oven doors and a bit of excess gas being flared off in the background. Never mind the 50,000 people living within a two mile radius. Comments on the shot are welcome. As expected, the LX's light metering has proven itself totally inadequate with such scenery. It suggested 8 secs while at least 30 are needed to get some detail into the shadows and 60 secs is about right. Yet, nothing to be ashamed of. I've never sen anything meter correctly under such conditions. I'd be quite happy if there weren't this nasty barrel distorsion of the 24 mm lens. Contrary to the details given on the linked page, it's the A2.8/24 mm. Anything else in this focal range that would be a little more linear? Ralf
PESO: my favourite hell-hole
First results with the new toys: http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1145051 Arcelor's coking plant in Seraing, Belgium. Nothing extraordinary in this shot, BTW. Just normal routine operation with a few badly sealed oven doors and a bit of excess gas being flared off in the background. Never mind the 50,000 people living within a two mile radius. Comments on the shot are welcome. As expected, the LX's light metering has proven itself totally inadequate with such scenery. It suggested 8 secs while at least 30 are needed to get some detail into the shadows and 60 secs is about right. Yet, nothing to be ashamed of. I've never sen anything meter correctly under such conditions. I'd be quite happy if there weren't this nasty barrel distorsion of the 24 mm lens. Contrary to the details given on the linked page, it's the A2.8/24 mm. Anything else in this focal range that would be a little more linear? Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses
