Re: PESO-s: misc from the summer
Lovely. Salt is my favourite. Thanks for sharing. On 10/19/05, luben karavelov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, At the end of the summer I managed to scan some of the pictures I have made during my vacation. So the best ones. Salt: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3710594 This is a kind of not just portrait made nearbt the salt-cellars of Pomorie, on the south black sea. Before the storm: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3712144 A kind of not just a landscape made at iailata on the north black sea. Soulfly: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3784563 This is a picture of e cemetery of florentin in nort-west bulgaria. The silent harlequine: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3812369 A kind of not just a kid picture made in the yard of abandoned house in Plovdiv. I will be glad to hear all your comments and suggestions. Thanks in advance luben karavelov -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: PESO-s: misc from the summer
On Oct 21, 2005, at 11:23 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Your numbers don't make any sense to me - but the math of these things is not my strength. A 3600ppi scan from one of my negs, on a 16-bit dedicated film scanner, works out to be about 33mb and has dimensions of more than 5600 x 3600. If I were to scan full frame, showing some borders, I'd be at about 35mb. Don't know how you're getting such a small scan. The calculation used 3000ppi rather than the 3600 mentioned beforehand (see below). (snip) The final image is 4500x3000 pixels for a leica negative (most of the time I am shooting on 35mm film). The math is 4500x3000x2/1024/1024 = 25,7 Mb (2 bytes per pixel, Kb and Kb are 1024 bytes or kbytes).
Re: PESO-s: misc from the summer
Shel Belinkoff wrote: At first look I love the composition and the imagery (with one reservation - the cemetery pic). Would love to see larger, better quality scans, but I like your vision ;-)) Shel Thanks Shel, Concerning the cemetery pic, it is a crop if a bigger picture. The whole frame could be seen here: http://altphotos.com/Gallery.aspx?a=Photophotoid=118645 When I took the photo I haven't noticed the bird in the sky and afterwards I have cropped it trying to make the flying bird one of the centers of the composition. On my prints the fullframe works better for me but for the web I thought that the bird will be too tiny. I am open to all suggestions. Regarding the scans, I use my Epson 3170 only for preview (in the place of contact copies) and for preparing images for the web. I have made digital print of one of the big files (3600dpi, 25MB, 16bits color) and I am realy disapointed of the quality (comparing it to the silver prints I made myself). Because I have made the print (20x30cm) in a studio here in Sofia with very good reputation, I am inclined to think that the quality of the scan is not good. If someone could share some tips in scanning BW negatives I will be very thankfull. Best regards luben
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found them all eye-catching. Perhaps it was the scans, but they seem dark rather than friendly. Geometrically they're fine compositions. So let's take your obvious skills to that next step: What were you trying to say? Collin KC8TKA Hello Colin, I really appreciate that you like the compositions. Yes, they are dark, this is intentional. I use very deluted rodinal stand development in order to shift the midtones to the shadows and to render lot of detail in them and in the shadows themselves (thanks to the compensation) and not to burn the highlights. This gives me also the so called adjancency effect that sometimes work well, somtimes not at all. They are more visible on the silverprints than on the scans and I do not know why. For example you could see them on the cemetery photo, around the tombstones but they are not so pronounced as on the print. One of the images that I have made with most visible and surrealistic adjancency effects could be seen here: http://photo-forum.net/index.php?APP_ACTION=GALLERY_IMAGEIMAGE_ID=151569USER_ID=4703 Regarding your question what I am trying to say. I am not sure that I am tryint to say anything. My feeling is that the pictures are not supposed to say something but to show something. What I try to show is a difference between the banal view and my view of the shown scene. Sometimes I manage to make it appear sometimes I do not. Sometimes it work for the other sometimes it doesn't. Best regard and thans for the comment luben
Re: PESO-s: misc from the summer
Hi Luben, There's something I don't understand. You mention 3600ppi color scans yield a file of about 25mb for preview and web. That seems very small. You should have a file a lot closer to 100mb. Then you ask about scanning BW negatives. Even those should be more than 25mb with a 16bit scan. So, lets first start with what it is you're scanning and what scanner you're using for your quality work. The Epson is a terrible scanner for 35mm negs, especially if you want ant decent quality. Shel [Original Message] From: luben karavelov Regarding the scans, I use my Epson 3170 only for preview (in the place of contact copies) and for preparing images for the web. I have made digital print of one of the big files (3600dpi, 25MB, 16bits color) and I am realy disapointed of the quality (comparing it to the silver prints I made myself). Because I have made the print (20x30cm) in a studio here in Sofia with very good reputation, I am inclined to think that the quality of the scan is not good. If someone could share some tips in scanning BW negatives I will be very thankfull.
Re: PESO-s: misc from the summer
Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi Luben, There's something I don't understand. You mention 3600ppi color scans yield a file of about 25mb for preview and web. That seems very small. You should have a file a lot closer to 100mb. Then you ask about scanning BW negatives. Even those should be more than 25mb with a 16bit scan. So, lets first start with what it is you're scanning and what scanner you're using for your quality work. The Epson is a terrible scanner for 35mm negs, especially if you want ant decent quality. Shel Hello Shel, Sorry for the error I have made. It is not 16bit color but 16bit grayscale. The final image is 4500x3000 pixels for a leica negative (most of the time I am shooting on 35mm film). The math is 4500x3000x2/1024/1024 = 25,7 Mb (2 bytes per pixel, Kb and Kb are 1024 bytes or kbytes). I make the gray from the green channel of the sensor (the red and infrared are somehow blurred, blue and green are OK but green has a greater dyniamic). I am using vuescan software and adjust the levels in cinepaint (some kind of GIMP supporting 16 and 32 bit color space). Cencerning the scanner, may be this is the cause that I could not get a decent quality of the scans. For my quality work I make silverprint copies in my wet darkroom. Maybe scanning the copies could give me better scans, I have to try... Best regards luben
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On Oct 18, 2005, at 11:06 PM, luben karavelov wrote: Before the storm: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3712144 A kind of not just a landscape made at iailata on the north black sea. This is a beautiful shot, my favorite of the set. Wonderful emotion and feel. Godfrey
Re: PESO-s: misc from the summer
Hi, Your numbers don't make any sense to me - but the math of these things is not my strength. A 3600ppi scan from one of my negs, on a 16-bit dedicated film scanner, works out to be about 33mb and has dimensions of more than 5600 x 3600. If I were to scan full frame, showing some borders, I'd be at about 35mb. Don't know how you're getting such a small scan. You might do better by scanning the final prints, but the best alternative is to get a high quality, dedicated film scanner. Shel [Original Message] From: luben karavelov There's something I don't understand. You mention 3600ppi color scans yield a file of about 25mb for preview and web. That seems very small. You should have a file a lot closer to 100mb. Then you ask about scanning BW negatives. Even those should be more than 25mb with a 16bit scan. So, lets first start with what it is you're scanning and what scanner you're using for your quality work. The Epson is a terrible scanner for 35mm negs, especially if you want ant decent quality. Shel Hello Shel, Sorry for the error I have made. It is not 16bit color but 16bit grayscale. The final image is 4500x3000 pixels for a leica negative (most of the time I am shooting on 35mm film). The math is 4500x3000x2/1024/1024 = 25,7 Mb (2 bytes per pixel, Kb and Kb are 1024 bytes or kbytes). I make the gray from the green channel of the sensor (the red and infrared are somehow blurred, blue and green are OK but green has a greater dyniamic). I am using vuescan software and adjust the levels in cinepaint (some kind of GIMP supporting 16 and 32 bit color space). Cencerning the scanner, may be this is the cause that I could not get a decent quality of the scans. For my quality work I make silverprint copies in my wet darkroom. Maybe scanning the copies could give me better scans, I have to try... Best regards luben
PESO-s: misc from the summer
Hello, At the end of the summer I managed to scan some of the pictures I have made during my vacation. So the best ones. Salt: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3710594 This is a kind of not just portrait made nearbt the salt-cellars of Pomorie, on the south black sea. Before the storm: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3712144 A kind of not just a landscape made at iailata on the north black sea. Soulfly: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3784563 This is a picture of e cemetery of florentin in nort-west bulgaria. The silent harlequine: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3812369 A kind of not just a kid picture made in the yard of abandoned house in Plovdiv. I will be glad to hear all your comments and suggestions. Thanks in advance luben karavelov
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I like the first two very much (Salt and Before the Storm). With Salt, it's just something about the figure in the foreground, how you can sort of see the face but not really. With Before The Storm (I like this one the best), I like the trees -- they are so spindly and weird-looking, and all the same, fading into the distance. The sheet hanging off the branches gives an impression of the movement of the wind. On 10/18/05, luben karavelov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, At the end of the summer I managed to scan some of the pictures I have made during my vacation. So the best ones. Salt: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3710594 This is a kind of not just portrait made nearbt the salt-cellars of Pomorie, on the south black sea. Before the storm: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3712144 A kind of not just a landscape made at iailata on the north black sea. Soulfly: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3784563 This is a picture of e cemetery of florentin in nort-west bulgaria. The silent harlequine: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3812369 A kind of not just a kid picture made in the yard of abandoned house in Plovdiv. I will be glad to hear all your comments and suggestions. Thanks in advance luben karavelov
RE: PESO-s: misc from the summer
I can't say I actually liked any of them... but for some reason I can say I enjoyed viewing them. Take that as you will. It's not a criticism. Of all... OK... the last with child laying in the leaves... if that was my child... I would cherish it and matte/frame it. Nicely done. :) The first one grabs my attention as well. Tom C. From: luben karavelov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO-s: misc from the summer Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:06:08 +0300 Hello, At the end of the summer I managed to scan some of the pictures I have made during my vacation. So the best ones. Salt: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3710594 This is a kind of not just portrait made nearbt the salt-cellars of Pomorie, on the south black sea. Before the storm: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3712144 A kind of not just a landscape made at iailata on the north black sea. Soulfly: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3784563 This is a picture of e cemetery of florentin in nort-west bulgaria. The silent harlequine: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3812369 A kind of not just a kid picture made in the yard of abandoned house in Plovdiv. I will be glad to hear all your comments and suggestions. Thanks in advance luben karavelov
Re: PESO-s: misc from the summer
On 19/10/05, luben karavelov, discombobulated, unleashed: Salt: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3710594 This is a kind of not just portrait made nearbt the salt-cellars of Pomorie, on the south black sea. Disconcerting. Well done. Before the storm: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3712144 A kind of not just a landscape made at iailata on the north black sea. I'm not sure if the grainy, gritty nature of your work suits this pic, but it does work for me. Soulfly: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3784563 This is a picture of e cemetery of florentin in nort-west bulgaria. Weakest of the collection for me. The silent harlequine: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3812369 Very strong image, reminds me of Christ on the cross. Very strong style you have there, some won't like it but if I saw one or two of those in an exhibition, I wouldn't be surprised. Well done Luben. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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luben karavelov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the end of the summer I managed to scan some of the pictures I have made during my vacation. So the best ones. The first two made me say wow as soon as they opened. Very distinctive work. (Yes, I like them!) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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I found them all eye-catching. Perhaps it was the scans, but they seem dark rather than friendly. Geometrically they're fine compositions. So let's take your obvious skills to that next step: What were you trying to say? Collin KC8TKA mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
RE: PESO-s: misc from the summer
At first look I love the composition and the imagery (with one reservation - the cemetery pic). Would love to see larger, better quality scans, but I like your vision ;-)) Shel [Original Message] From: luben karavelov At the end of the summer I managed to scan some of the pictures I have made during my vacation. So the best ones. Salt: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3710594 This is a kind of not just portrait made nearbt the salt-cellars of Pomorie, on the south black sea. Before the storm: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3712144 A kind of not just a landscape made at iailata on the north black sea. Soulfly: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3784563 This is a picture of e cemetery of florentin in nort-west bulgaria. The silent harlequine: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3812369 A kind of not just a kid picture made in the yard of abandoned house in Plovdiv. I will be glad to hear all your comments and suggestions. Thanks in advance luben karavelov
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Lovely stuff, Luben. I peeked at some of these earlier, when you posted them to photo.net. You have a distinctive vision, very compelling -- I really enjoy looking at your images and pondering them at length. No criticisms or comments from me, other than I hope you keep shooting and sharing the results! *UncaMikey