Re: PESO-s: misc from the summer

2005-10-22 Thread Scott Loveless
Lovely.  Salt is my favourite.  Thanks for sharing.

On 10/19/05, luben karavelov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 At the end of the summer I managed to scan some of the pictures I have
 made during my vacation. So the best ones.


 Salt: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3710594
 This is a kind of not just portrait made nearbt the salt-cellars of
 Pomorie, on the south black sea.


 Before the storm: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3712144
 A kind of not just a landscape made at iailata on the north black sea.


 Soulfly: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3784563
 This is a picture of e cemetery of florentin in nort-west bulgaria.

 The silent harlequine: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3812369

 A kind of not just a kid picture made in the yard of abandoned house in
 Plovdiv.

 I will be glad to hear all your comments and suggestions.

 Thanks in advance
 luben karavelov




--
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixteen.com

--
You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman



Re: PESO-s: misc from the summer

2005-10-21 Thread David Mann

On Oct 21, 2005, at 11:23 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


Your numbers don't make any sense to me - but the math of these  
things is
not my strength.  A 3600ppi scan from one of my negs, on a 16-bit  
dedicated
film scanner, works out to be about 33mb and has dimensions of more  
than
5600 x 3600.  If I were to scan full frame, showing some borders,  
I'd be at

about 35mb. Don't know how you're getting such a small scan.



The calculation used 3000ppi rather than the 3600 mentioned  
beforehand (see below).


(snip)


 The final image is 4500x3000 pixels for a leica negative
(most of the time I am shooting on 35mm film). The math is
4500x3000x2/1024/1024 = 25,7 Mb (2 bytes per pixel, Kb and Kb are  
1024

bytes or kbytes).






Re: PESO-s: misc from the summer

2005-10-20 Thread luben karavelov
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 At first look I love the composition and the imagery (with one reservation
 - the cemetery pic).  Would love to see larger, better quality scans, but I
 like your vision ;-))
 
 Shel 
 

Thanks Shel,

Concerning the cemetery pic, it is a crop if a bigger picture.
The whole frame could be seen here:

http://altphotos.com/Gallery.aspx?a=Photophotoid=118645

When I took the photo I haven't noticed the bird in the sky and
afterwards I have cropped it trying to make the flying bird one of the
centers of the composition. On my prints the fullframe works better for
me but for the web I thought that the bird will be too tiny. I am open
to all suggestions.

Regarding the scans, I use my Epson 3170 only for preview (in the place
of contact copies) and for preparing images for the web. I have made
digital print of one of the big files (3600dpi, 25MB, 16bits color) and
I am realy disapointed of the quality (comparing it to the silver prints
I made myself). Because I have made the print (20x30cm) in a studio here
in Sofia with very good reputation, I am inclined to think that the
quality of the scan is not good. If someone could share some tips in
scanning BW negatives I will be very thankfull.

Best regards
luben



Re: PESO-s: misc from the summer

2005-10-20 Thread luben karavelov
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I found them all eye-catching.  Perhaps it was the scans, 
 but they seem dark rather than friendly.
 
 Geometrically they're fine compositions.  So let's take your 
 obvious skills to that next step:  What were you trying to say?
 
 Collin
 KC8TKA
 

Hello Colin,

I really appreciate that you like the compositions. Yes, they are dark,
this is intentional. I use very deluted rodinal stand development in
order to shift the midtones to the shadows and to render lot of detail
in them and in the shadows themselves (thanks to the compensation) and
not to burn the highlights. This gives me also the so called adjancency
effect that sometimes work well, somtimes not at all. They are more
visible on the silverprints than on the scans and I do not know why. For
example you could see them on the cemetery photo, around the tombstones
but they are not so pronounced as on the print. One of the images that I
have made with most visible and surrealistic adjancency effects could be
seen here:

http://photo-forum.net/index.php?APP_ACTION=GALLERY_IMAGEIMAGE_ID=151569USER_ID=4703

Regarding your question what I am trying to say. I am not sure that I am
tryint to say anything. My feeling is that the pictures are not supposed
to say something but to show something. What I try to show is a
difference between the banal view and my view of the shown scene.
Sometimes I manage to make it appear sometimes I do not. Sometimes it
work for the other sometimes it doesn't.

Best regard and thans for the comment
luben




Re: PESO-s: misc from the summer

2005-10-20 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Luben,

There's something I don't understand.  You mention 3600ppi color scans
yield a file of about 25mb for preview and web.  That seems very small. 
You should have a file a lot closer to 100mb.  Then you ask about scanning
BW negatives.  Even those should be more than 25mb with a 16bit scan.  So,
lets first start with what it is you're scanning and what scanner you're
using for your quality work.

The Epson is a terrible scanner for 35mm negs, especially if you want ant
decent quality.

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: luben karavelov 

 Regarding the scans, I use my Epson 3170 only for preview (in the place
 of contact copies) and for preparing images for the web. I have made
 digital print of one of the big files (3600dpi, 25MB, 16bits color) and
 I am realy disapointed of the quality (comparing it to the silver prints
 I made myself). Because I have made the print (20x30cm) in a studio here
 in Sofia with very good reputation, I am inclined to think that the
 quality of the scan is not good. If someone could share some tips in
 scanning BW negatives I will be very thankfull.




Re: PESO-s: misc from the summer

2005-10-20 Thread luben karavelov
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 Hi Luben,
 
 There's something I don't understand.  You mention 3600ppi color scans
 yield a file of about 25mb for preview and web.  That seems very small. 
 You should have a file a lot closer to 100mb.  Then you ask about scanning
 BW negatives.  Even those should be more than 25mb with a 16bit scan.  So,
 lets first start with what it is you're scanning and what scanner you're
 using for your quality work.
 
 The Epson is a terrible scanner for 35mm negs, especially if you want ant
 decent quality.
 
 Shel 
 

Hello Shel,

Sorry for the error I have made. It is not 16bit color but 16bit
grayscale. The final image is 4500x3000 pixels for a leica negative
(most of the time I am shooting on 35mm film). The math is
4500x3000x2/1024/1024 = 25,7 Mb (2 bytes per pixel, Kb and Kb are 1024
bytes or kbytes). I make the gray from the green channel of the sensor
(the red and infrared are somehow blurred, blue and green are OK but
green has a greater dyniamic). I am using vuescan software and adjust
the levels in cinepaint (some kind of GIMP supporting 16 and 32 bit
color space).

Cencerning the scanner, may be this is the cause that I could not get a
decent quality of the scans.

For my quality work I make silverprint copies in my wet darkroom. Maybe
scanning the copies could give me better scans, I have to try...

Best regards
luben



Re: PESO-s: misc from the summer

2005-10-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Oct 18, 2005, at 11:06 PM, luben karavelov wrote:


Before the storm: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3712144
A kind of not just a landscape made at iailata on the north black  
sea.




This is a beautiful shot, my favorite of the set. Wonderful emotion  
and feel.


Godfrey



Re: PESO-s: misc from the summer

2005-10-20 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi,

Your numbers don't make any sense to me - but the math of these things is
not my strength.  A 3600ppi scan from one of my negs, on a 16-bit dedicated
film scanner, works out to be about 33mb and has dimensions of more than
5600 x 3600.  If I were to scan full frame, showing some borders, I'd be at
about 35mb. Don't know how you're getting such a small scan.

You might do better by scanning the final prints, but the best alternative
is to get a high quality, dedicated film scanner.

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: luben karavelov 

  There's something I don't understand.  You mention 3600ppi color scans
  yield a file of about 25mb for preview and web.  That seems very small. 
  You should have a file a lot closer to 100mb.  Then you ask about
scanning
  BW negatives.  Even those should be more than 25mb with a 16bit scan. 
So,
  lets first start with what it is you're scanning and what scanner you're
  using for your quality work.
  
  The Epson is a terrible scanner for 35mm negs, especially if you want
ant
  decent quality.
  
  Shel 
  

 Hello Shel,

 Sorry for the error I have made. It is not 16bit color but 16bit
 grayscale. The final image is 4500x3000 pixels for a leica negative
 (most of the time I am shooting on 35mm film). The math is
 4500x3000x2/1024/1024 = 25,7 Mb (2 bytes per pixel, Kb and Kb are 1024
 bytes or kbytes). I make the gray from the green channel of the sensor
 (the red and infrared are somehow blurred, blue and green are OK but
 green has a greater dyniamic). I am using vuescan software and adjust
 the levels in cinepaint (some kind of GIMP supporting 16 and 32 bit
 color space).

 Cencerning the scanner, may be this is the cause that I could not get a
 decent quality of the scans.

 For my quality work I make silverprint copies in my wet darkroom. Maybe
 scanning the copies could give me better scans, I have to try...

 Best regards
 luben




PESO-s: misc from the summer

2005-10-19 Thread luben karavelov
Hello,
At the end of the summer I managed to scan some of the pictures I have
made during my vacation. So the best ones.


Salt: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3710594
This is a kind of not just portrait made nearbt the salt-cellars of
Pomorie, on the south black sea.


Before the storm: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3712144
A kind of not just a landscape made at iailata on the north black sea.


Soulfly: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3784563
This is a picture of e cemetery of florentin in nort-west bulgaria.

The silent harlequine: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3812369

A kind of not just a kid picture made in the yard of abandoned house in
Plovdiv.

I will be glad to hear all your comments and suggestions.

Thanks in advance
luben karavelov



Re: PESO-s: misc from the summer

2005-10-19 Thread skye
I like the first two very much (Salt and Before the Storm). With Salt,
it's just something about the figure in the foreground, how you can
sort of see the face but not really. With Before The Storm (I like
this one the best), I like the trees -- they are so spindly and
weird-looking, and all the same, fading into the distance. The sheet
hanging off the branches gives an impression of the movement of the
wind.

On 10/18/05, luben karavelov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 At the end of the summer I managed to scan some of the pictures I have
 made during my vacation. So the best ones.


 Salt: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3710594
 This is a kind of not just portrait made nearbt the salt-cellars of
 Pomorie, on the south black sea.


 Before the storm: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3712144
 A kind of not just a landscape made at iailata on the north black sea.


 Soulfly: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3784563
 This is a picture of e cemetery of florentin in nort-west bulgaria.

 The silent harlequine: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3812369

 A kind of not just a kid picture made in the yard of abandoned house in
 Plovdiv.

 I will be glad to hear all your comments and suggestions.

 Thanks in advance
 luben karavelov





RE: PESO-s: misc from the summer

2005-10-19 Thread Tom C
I can't say I actually liked any of them... but for some reason I can say I 
enjoyed viewing them.  Take that as you will.  It's not a criticism.  Of 
all... OK... the last with child laying in the leaves... if that was my 
child... I would cherish it and matte/frame it.  Nicely done. :)


The first one grabs my attention as well.

Tom C.





From: luben karavelov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PESO-s: misc from the summer
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:06:08 +0300

Hello,
At the end of the summer I managed to scan some of the pictures I have
made during my vacation. So the best ones.


Salt: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3710594
This is a kind of not just portrait made nearbt the salt-cellars of
Pomorie, on the south black sea.


Before the storm: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3712144
A kind of not just a landscape made at iailata on the north black sea.


Soulfly: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3784563
This is a picture of e cemetery of florentin in nort-west bulgaria.

The silent harlequine: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3812369

A kind of not just a kid picture made in the yard of abandoned house in
Plovdiv.

I will be glad to hear all your comments and suggestions.

Thanks in advance
luben karavelov




Re: PESO-s: misc from the summer

2005-10-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/10/05, luben karavelov, discombobulated, unleashed:

Salt: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3710594
This is a kind of not just portrait made nearbt the salt-cellars of
Pomorie, on the south black sea.

Disconcerting. Well done.



Before the storm: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3712144
A kind of not just a landscape made at iailata on the north black sea.

I'm not sure if the grainy, gritty nature of your work suits this pic,
but it does work for me.



Soulfly: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3784563
This is a picture of e cemetery of florentin in nort-west bulgaria.

Weakest of the collection for me.


The silent harlequine: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3812369

Very strong image, reminds me of Christ on the cross.

Very strong style you have there, some won't like it but if I saw one or
two of those in an exhibition, I wouldn't be surprised. Well done Luben.




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
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Re: PESO-s: misc from the summer

2005-10-19 Thread Mark Roberts
luben karavelov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

At the end of the summer I managed to scan some of the pictures I have
made during my vacation. So the best ones.

The first two made me say wow as soon as they opened. Very distinctive
work. (Yes, I like them!)
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: PESO-s: misc from the summer

2005-10-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I found them all eye-catching.  Perhaps it was the scans, 
but they seem dark rather than friendly.

Geometrically they're fine compositions.  So let's take your 
obvious skills to that next step:  What were you trying to say?

Collin
KC8TKA


mail2web - Check your email from the web at
http://mail2web.com/ .





RE: PESO-s: misc from the summer

2005-10-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff
At first look I love the composition and the imagery (with one reservation
- the cemetery pic).  Would love to see larger, better quality scans, but I
like your vision ;-))

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: luben karavelov 

 At the end of the summer I managed to scan some of the pictures I have
 made during my vacation. So the best ones.


 Salt: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3710594
 This is a kind of not just portrait made nearbt the salt-cellars of
 Pomorie, on the south black sea.


 Before the storm: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3712144
 A kind of not just a landscape made at iailata on the north black sea.


 Soulfly: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3784563
 This is a picture of e cemetery of florentin in nort-west bulgaria.

 The silent harlequine: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3812369

 A kind of not just a kid picture made in the yard of abandoned house in
 Plovdiv.

 I will be glad to hear all your comments and suggestions.

 Thanks in advance
 luben karavelov




Re: PESO-s: misc from the summer

2005-10-19 Thread Unca Mikey
Lovely stuff, Luben.  I peeked at some of these earlier, when you 
posted them to photo.net.


You have a distinctive vision, very compelling -- I really enjoy 
looking at your images and pondering them at length.  No criticisms 
or comments from me, other than I hope you keep shooting and sharing 
the results!


*UncaMikey