Re: PESO #27 - Green, Red, Yellow

2012-06-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Frank, believe me or not but except very minor vignetting on the sides I 
did not do any processing at all. Well, I did resize it and sharpened it 
a bit after the resize. But it is pretty much how it came out of the 
phone/camera...




On 6/10/2012 23:53, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

I'm very impressed with this Boris. I believe we have the same phone, but I 
don't feel I've coaxed the same.quality of image out of mine as this PESO.

Lovely photo!

cheers,
frank

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From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com
Sent: June 10, 2012 6/10/12
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Subject: Re: PESO #27 - Green, Red, Yellow

On 6/10/2012 01:33, James King wrote:

Boris Liberman wrote on Sat, 09 Jun 2012 10:59:55 -0700


Hi!

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2012/06/peso-2012-27-green-red-yellow.html




My new toy - Samsung Galaxy S II is not half bad as a little snapper
that is always with me. I am starting to think that the likes of Sony
NEX with couple of adapters (K-mount and Leica M-mount) can be my next
enablement. It is unfortunate that Ricoh does not upgrade their GXR
system modules (50 mm macro and Leica M-mount) with 16 MP sensor from
Sony, or I would have bought these probably on the spot…


Boris, don't diss the Ricoh Mount A12 - it does a better job than one
might expect for a 12 MP sensor because of the lack of an AA filter
and the offset microlenses. :)  I have one and I'm not sure that
more pixels are needed to get IQ close to the M9.  It's better than
the 16 mP A5n as it is…

Regards, Jim



Ricoh system is very high up in my order of priorities. The M-mount
module is attractive but I am a bit uncertain about its dynamic range.
I'm shooting for many months with K-5 and it spoiled me, you know. I
don't care for pixel count so that 12 MP would be absolutely fine. The
reviews on the net say that focus peeking implementation of Ricoh is
good enough for all practical purposes and that the lack of AA filter is
great advantage, as the sensor truly preserves the artistic character of
the lens, so to speak. My only gripe is dynamic range because the
transition from 12 MP to 16 MP also included the huge advancement in
that department.

Unless something dramatic happens in the months to come, I can easily
see getting a body and a module.

Oh by the way, do I understand correctly that then the shutter is closed
(that is when the power is off, etc) the module is sealed from dust? So
that dust is practically a non-issue here, right?

Boris






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Re: PESO #27 - Green, Red, Yellow

2012-06-10 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I'm very impressed with this Boris. I believe we have the same phone, but I 
don't feel I've coaxed the same.quality of image out of mine as this PESO.

Lovely photo!

cheers,
frank

What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com
Sent: June 10, 2012 6/10/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO #27 - Green, Red, Yellow

On 6/10/2012 01:33, James King wrote:
 Boris Liberman wrote on Sat, 09 Jun 2012 10:59:55 -0700

 Hi!

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2012/06/peso-2012-27-green-red-yellow.html



My new toy - Samsung Galaxy S II is not half bad as a little snapper 
that is always with me. I am starting to think that the likes of Sony 
NEX with couple of adapters (K-mount and Leica M-mount) can be my next 
enablement. It is unfortunate that Ricoh does not upgrade their GXR 
system modules (50 mm macro and Leica M-mount) with 16 MP sensor from 
Sony, or I would have bought these probably on the spot…

 Boris, don't diss the Ricoh Mount A12 - it does a better job than one
 might expect for a 12 MP sensor because of the lack of an AA filter
 and the offset microlenses. :)  I have one and I'm not sure that
 more pixels are needed to get IQ close to the M9.  It's better than
 the 16 mP A5n as it is…

 Regards, Jim


Ricoh system is very high up in my order of priorities. The M-mount 
module is attractive but I am a bit uncertain about its dynamic range. 
I'm shooting for many months with K-5 and it spoiled me, you know. I 
don't care for pixel count so that 12 MP would be absolutely fine. The 
reviews on the net say that focus peeking implementation of Ricoh is 
good enough for all practical purposes and that the lack of AA filter is 
great advantage, as the sensor truly preserves the artistic character of 
the lens, so to speak. My only gripe is dynamic range because the 
transition from 12 MP to 16 MP also included the huge advancement in 
that department.

Unless something dramatic happens in the months to come, I can easily 
see getting a body and a module.

Oh by the way, do I understand correctly that then the shutter is closed 
(that is when the power is off, etc) the module is sealed from dust? So 
that dust is practically a non-issue here, right?

Boris


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PESO #27 - Green, Red, Yellow

2012-06-09 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2012/06/peso-2012-27-green-red-yellow.html

My new toy - Samsung Galaxy S II is not half bad as a little snapper 
that is always with me. I am starting to think that the likes of Sony 
NEX with couple of adapters (K-mount and Leica M-mount) can be my next 
enablement. It is unfortunate that Ricoh does not upgrade their GXR 
system modules (50 mm macro and Leica M-mount) with 16 MP sensor from 
Sony, or I would have bought these probably on the spot...


Cheers.

Boris

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Re: PESO #27 - Green, Red, Yellow

2012-06-09 Thread Bulent Celasun
Boris,

I am afraid these gadgets will make my toys (like hefty medium format
bodies with a big lens hanging in front) look really like toys :(
The fact that yours function properly and produces decent images like
the one you submitted, is proof of a bleak future... for me, anyway!

Perhaps you should have submitted a photo that sucked!

Bulent :)
-
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/
http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun


2012/6/9 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:
 Hi!

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2012/06/peso-2012-27-green-red-yellow.html

 My new toy - Samsung Galaxy S II is not half bad as a little snapper that is
 always with me. I am starting to think that the likes of Sony NEX with
 couple of adapters (K-mount and Leica M-mount) can be my next enablement. It
 is unfortunate that Ricoh does not upgrade their GXR system modules (50 mm
 macro and Leica M-mount) with 16 MP sensor from Sony, or I would have bought
 these probably on the spot...

 Cheers.

 Boris

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Re: PESO #27 - Green, Red, Yellow

2012-06-09 Thread James King
Boris Liberman wrote on Sat, 09 Jun 2012 10:59:55 -0700

 Hi!
 
 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2012/06/peso-2012-27-green-red-yellow.html
 
 My new toy - Samsung Galaxy S II is not half bad as a little snapper that is 
 always with me. I am starting to think that the likes of Sony NEX with couple 
 of adapters (K-mount and Leica M-mount) can be my next enablement. It is 
 unfortunate that Ricoh does not upgrade their GXR system modules (50 mm macro 
 and Leica M-mount) with 16 MP sensor from Sony, or I would have bought these 
 probably on the spot…

Boris, don't diss the Ricoh Mount A12 - it does a better job than one might 
expect for a 12 MP sensor because of the lack of an AA filter and the offset 
microlenses. :)  I have one and I'm not sure that more pixels are needed to 
get IQ close to the M9.  It's better than the 16 mP A5n as it is…

Regards, Jim
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Re: PESO #27 - Green, Red, Yellow

2012-06-09 Thread Boris Liberman

On 6/10/2012 01:33, James King wrote:

Boris Liberman wrote on Sat, 09 Jun 2012 10:59:55 -0700


Hi!

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2012/06/peso-2012-27-green-red-yellow.html



My new toy - Samsung Galaxy S II is not half bad as a little snapper 
that is always with me. I am starting to think that the likes of Sony 
NEX with couple of adapters (K-mount and Leica M-mount) can be my next 
enablement. It is unfortunate that Ricoh does not upgrade their GXR 
system modules (50 mm macro and Leica M-mount) with 16 MP sensor from 
Sony, or I would have bought these probably on the spot…


Boris, don't diss the Ricoh Mount A12 - it does a better job than one
might expect for a 12 MP sensor because of the lack of an AA filter
and the offset microlenses. :)  I have one and I'm not sure that
more pixels are needed to get IQ close to the M9.  It's better than
the 16 mP A5n as it is…

Regards, Jim



Ricoh system is very high up in my order of priorities. The M-mount 
module is attractive but I am a bit uncertain about its dynamic range. 
I'm shooting for many months with K-5 and it spoiled me, you know. I 
don't care for pixel count so that 12 MP would be absolutely fine. The 
reviews on the net say that focus peeking implementation of Ricoh is 
good enough for all practical purposes and that the lack of AA filter is 
great advantage, as the sensor truly preserves the artistic character of 
the lens, so to speak. My only gripe is dynamic range because the 
transition from 12 MP to 16 MP also included the huge advancement in 
that department.


Unless something dramatic happens in the months to come, I can easily 
see getting a body and a module.


Oh by the way, do I understand correctly that then the shutter is closed 
(that is when the power is off, etc) the module is sealed from dust? So 
that dust is practically a non-issue here, right?


Boris


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Re: PESO #27 - Green, Red, Yellow

2012-06-09 Thread Boris Liberman

Hey, Bulent! Don't be sad.

This is still very much a toy. I won't wanna go into geeky 
list-of-things-that-suck mode, but let is suffice to say that this 
camera is good mostly for things such as (G-d forbid) recording results 
of a road accident or some other such thing where it does not really 
matter what camera one has, as long as it is there and operable.


The good thing about this camera is that it one more time gave me a 
trigger to think about alternative to rather bulky and heavy DSLR system 
as opposed to lean and mean options that can shoot just as good.


And having shot with Pentax 645 I should say that by no means such gear 
should be disregarded.


Boris

On 6/9/2012 23:00, Bulent Celasun wrote:

Boris,

I am afraid these gadgets will make my toys (like hefty medium format
bodies with a big lens hanging in front) look really like toys :(
The fact that yours function properly and produces decent images like
the one you submitted, is proof of a bleak future... for me, anyway!

Perhaps you should have submitted a photo that sucked!

Bulent :)
-
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/
http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun


2012/6/9 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:

Hi!

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2012/06/peso-2012-27-green-red-yellow.html

My new toy - Samsung Galaxy S II is not half bad as a little snapper that is
always with me. I am starting to think that the likes of Sony NEX with
couple of adapters (K-mount and Leica M-mount) can be my next enablement. It
is unfortunate that Ricoh does not upgrade their GXR system modules (50 mm
macro and Leica M-mount) with 16 MP sensor from Sony, or I would have bought
these probably on the spot...

Cheers.

Boris

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