PESO - Boris Week 14
Hi! People are starting to post flower pictures. I thought I might as well. After all one may claim that Israel is a sun of eternal summer. http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=17222&full=1 I was going to this kind of effect having used nearly wide f 2.8 aperture. I wonder if the background is not too busy. As usual, brutal and honest is what I prefer. Thanks. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Boris Week 14
Peter, but why "damn". Did I do anything damnable??? ;-) Thanks! Boris P. J. Alling wrote: > Damn Boris, That's very interesting. I like the effect. > > Boris Liberman wrote: >> Hi! >> >> People are starting to post flower pictures. I thought I might as well. >> After all one may claim that Israel is a sun of eternal summer. >> >> http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=17222&full=1 >> >> I was going to this kind of effect having used nearly wide f 2.8 >> aperture. I wonder if the background is not too busy. >> >> As usual, brutal and honest is what I prefer. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Boris >> >> > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Boris Week 14
On Apr 4, 2007, at 9:23 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: > http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=17222&full=1 > > I was going to this kind of effect having used nearly wide f 2.8 > aperture. I wonder if the background is not too busy. The background is too busy for my eye. It's surprisingly jumbled in appearance too, for the FA31, but that's typical of wides used at large apertures close-up. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Boris Week 14
Boris, I think the background is fine. To me it looks painterly. -Brendan --- Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > People are starting to post flower pictures. I > thought I might as well. > After all one may claim that Israel is a sun of > eternal summer. > > http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=17222&full=1 > > I was going to this kind of effect having used > nearly wide f 2.8 > aperture. I wonder if the background is not too > busy. > > As usual, brutal and honest is what I prefer. > > Thanks. > > Boris > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Boris Week 14
This one doesn't work for me. The background is busy and competes with the subject too much. An interesting effect, but not one I care for. -- Bruce Wednesday, April 4, 2007, 9:23:51 PM, you wrote: BL> Hi! BL> People are starting to post flower pictures. I thought I might as well. BL> After all one may claim that Israel is a sun of eternal summer. BL> http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=17222&full=1 BL> I was going to this kind of effect having used nearly wide f 2.8 BL> aperture. I wonder if the background is not too busy. BL> As usual, brutal and honest is what I prefer. BL> Thanks. BL> Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Boris Week 14
Damn Boris, That's very interesting. I like the effect. Boris Liberman wrote: > Hi! > > People are starting to post flower pictures. I thought I might as well. > After all one may claim that Israel is a sun of eternal summer. > > http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=17222&full=1 > > I was going to this kind of effect having used nearly wide f 2.8 > aperture. I wonder if the background is not too busy. > > As usual, brutal and honest is what I prefer. > > Thanks. > > Boris > > -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Boris Week 14
Hi Boris, First time I saw your picture I had a mix reaction, for one, I thought that the OOF was too cluttered, but on a second look my thoughts are exactly Brendan's (looks like a paint) or a morphed mirrored image. So is thumbs up for an original effect. Take this coming from someone tired of seeing one too many photos of flowers with smooth butterly boke (the very thought just sickens me ;o) ) Fernando On 4/5/07, Brendan MacRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Boris, > > I think the background is fine. To me it looks > painterly. > > -Brendan > --- Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > People are starting to post flower pictures. I > > thought I might as well. > > After all one may claim that Israel is a sun of > > eternal summer. > > > > http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=17222&full=1 > > > > I was going to this kind of effect having used > > nearly wide f 2.8 > > aperture. I wonder if the background is not too > > busy. > > > > As usual, brutal and honest is what I prefer. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Boris > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > > > Get your own web address. > Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Boris Week 14
Hi Fernando, Boris ... I, too, am a little - make that very - bored with the more typical flower shots, so much so that I generally don't even view them. Boris, while I feel that your shot, as it appears on the web, is a bit of a jumbled mess, I applaud you for trying something different. However, I also know that viewing a larger image will smooth things out quite a bit. It seems that this pic may be improved to some degree by making it larger, but without having the fuzz-rez file to play with, it's hard to guess what the result will be. Keep experimenting, Shel > [Original Message] > From: Fernando Terrazzino > Hi Boris, > > First time I saw your picture I had a mix reaction, for one, I thought > that the OOF was too cluttered, but on a second look my thoughts are > exactly Brendan's (looks like a paint) or a morphed mirrored image. > > So is thumbs up for an original effect. > > Take this coming from someone tired of seeing one too many photos of > flowers with smooth butterly boke (the very thought just sickens me > ;o) ) > > Fernando > > On 4/5/07, Brendan MacRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Boris, > > > > I think the background is fine. To me it looks > > painterly. > > > > -Brendan > > --- Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > People are starting to post flower pictures. I > > > thought I might as well. > > > After all one may claim that Israel is a sun of > > > eternal summer. > > > > > > http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=17222&full=1 > > > > > > I was going to this kind of effect having used > > > nearly wide f 2.8 > > > aperture. I wonder if the background is not too > > > busy. > > > > > > As usual, brutal and honest is what I prefer. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Boris > > > > > > -- > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > PDML@pdml.net > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get your own web address. > > Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. > > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Boris Week 14
Boris Liberman wrote: >Hi! > >People are starting to post flower pictures. I thought I might as well. >After all one may claim that Israel is a sun of eternal summer. > >http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=17222&full=1 > >I was going to this kind of effect having used nearly wide f 2.8 >aperture. I wonder if the background is not too busy. > yeah, it is, I'm afraid - Brutal ann >As usual, brutal and honest is what I prefer. > >Thanks. > >Boris > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I am on the fence on this one. I like the duplication of the pink flowers in the background, but the blurred blue flowers are confusing to the eye. You are not following flower shot conventions, Boris, get with the program. Marnie aka Doe ;-) = Wednesday, April 4, 2007, 9:23:51 PM, you wrote: BL> Hi! BL> People are starting to post flower pictures. I thought I might as well. BL> After all one may claim that Israel is a sun of eternal summer. BL> http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=17222&full=1 BL> I was going to this kind of effect having used nearly wide f 2.8 BL> aperture. I wonder if the background is not too busy. BL> As usual, brutal and honest is what I prefer. BL> Thanks. BL> Boris ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Boris Week 14
Boris, it doesn't work for me. The background is distracting. Isolate & simplify. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: PESO - Boris Week 14 > Hi! > > People are starting to post flower pictures. I thought I might as well. > After all one may claim that Israel is a sun of eternal summer. > > http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=17222&full=1 > > I was going to this kind of effect having used nearly wide f 2.8 > aperture. I wonder if the background is not too busy. > > As usual, brutal and honest is what I prefer. > > Thanks. > > Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Almost a painting feel to it. The way the DOF works is nice. Nice colours to. Dave On 4/5/07, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > People are starting to post flower pictures. I thought I might as well. > After all one may claim that Israel is a sun of eternal summer. > > http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=17222&full=1 > > I was going to this kind of effect having used nearly wide f 2.8 > aperture. I wonder if the background is not too busy. > > As usual, brutal and honest is what I prefer. > > Thanks. > > Boris > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Boris Week 14
IMO, Boris, the background is better than the main subject. Beautiful colors. The DOF is not separating the foreground flower enough from the background resulting in an image that confuses the eye. I thing it needs either less DOF to blur the background more, or more DOF so the entire image is in focus. Tom C. >From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >Subject: Re: PESO - Boris Week 14 >Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 12:40:03 -0400 > >Almost a painting feel to it. > >The way the DOF works is nice. Nice colours to. > >Dave > >On 4/5/07, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi! > > > > People are starting to post flower pictures. I thought I might as well. > > After all one may claim that Israel is a sun of eternal summer. > > > > http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=17222&full=1 > > > > I was going to this kind of effect having used nearly wide f 2.8 > > aperture. I wonder if the background is not too busy. > > > > As usual, brutal and honest is what I prefer. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Boris > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > >-- >Equine Photography >www.caughtinmotion.com >http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ >Ontario Canada > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO - Boris Week 14
An interesting attempt, but. The background is too much for my plain brain to process. Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman Sent: 5. april 2007 06:24 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List; PAW Project Discussions Subject: PESO - Boris Week 14 Hi! People are starting to post flower pictures. I thought I might as well. After all one may claim that Israel is a sun of eternal summer. http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=17222&full=1 I was going to this kind of effect having used nearly wide f 2.8 aperture. I wonder if the background is not too busy. As usual, brutal and honest is what I prefer. Thanks. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Boris Week 14
The pic is beautiful, but I really hate all the scrolling to see the thing! Rick --- Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > People are starting to post flower pictures. I > thought I might as well. > After all one may claim that Israel is a sun of > eternal summer. > > http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=17222&full=1 > > I was going to this kind of effect having used > nearly wide f 2.8 > aperture. I wonder if the background is not too > busy. > > As usual, brutal and honest is what I prefer. > > Thanks. > > Boris > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Boris Week 14
Thanks Tom and everyone else who responded. Tom C wrote: > IMO, Boris, the background is better than the main subject. Beautiful > colors. The DOF is not separating the foreground flower enough from the > background resulting in an image that confuses the eye. > > I thing it needs either less DOF to blur the background more, or more DOF so > the entire image is in focus. I actually conclude that this photo was quite successful as it caused very different opinions to be expressed. I will try more of this kind of shots should opportunity present itself ;-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
