Re: PESO - Dawn from the clifftops
On 10/29/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is a shot I took in February and never really did anything with. I > revisited it on > the weekend armed with a few more months of experience with photoshop. > > I processed the RAW file twice, once for shadow detail and once for > highlights and > sky colour. I then blended them in PS CS2. I tried to keep it looking > natural so I > haven't gone overboard...I just tried to do enough to render the scene as I > saw it. > I've deliberately kept it a little on the dark side for that reason. Any > lighter and I > started to lose the colour saturation of the sky. If I compensated for that, > then it > started to look over ps'd and unnatural. To me, this result is as close as I > can get > to how the scene looked to the naked eye as the sun rose behind the cliff > face. > > http://tinyurl.com/y3ak86 > > As always, comments and critique welcomed. > > Cheers > James > I like it! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Dawn from the clifftops
Thanks for the suggestion mate. I'll give it a try and see how it looks. - Original Message - From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 4:53 AM Subject: Re: PESO - Dawn from the clifftops >I like it very much, and don't find the clouds a distraction. > > To my eye, the foreground rocks might stand just a hair more contrast > or a little more luminance to delineate the detail better. It's a > tough call as the tonalities are subtle. On first glance, I felt it > was too dark, then I viewed it full-screen with a black surround and > it seemed better balanced, so with a white surround I'd want to see > just this area brought up a hair so that the eye doesn't have to work > so hard to see it. > > Godfrey > > On Oct 29, 2006, at 8:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> http://tinyurl.com/y3ak86 > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Dawn from the clifftops
I like it very much, and don't find the clouds a distraction. To my eye, the foreground rocks might stand just a hair more contrast or a little more luminance to delineate the detail better. It's a tough call as the tonalities are subtle. On first glance, I felt it was too dark, then I viewed it full-screen with a black surround and it seemed better balanced, so with a white surround I'd want to see just this area brought up a hair so that the eye doesn't have to work so hard to see it. Godfrey On Oct 29, 2006, at 8:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/y3ak86 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Dawn from the clifftops
Excellent shot. I find it hard to believe it's an HDR render, it is so well done. Bravo! -Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This is a shot I took in February and never really did anything with. I > revisited it on > the weekend armed with a few more months of experience with photoshop. > > I processed the RAW file twice, once for shadow detail and once for > highlights and > sky colour. I then blended them in PS CS2. I tried to keep it looking > natural so I > haven't gone overboard...I just tried to do enough to render the scene as I > saw it. > I've deliberately kept it a little on the dark side for that reason. Any > lighter and I > started to lose the colour saturation of the sky. If I compensated for that, > then it > started to look over ps'd and unnatural. To me, this result is as close as I > can get > to how the scene looked to the naked eye as the sun rose behind the cliff > face. > > http://tinyurl.com/y3ak86 > > As always, comments and critique welcomed. > > Cheers > James > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Dawn from the clifftops
This is a very nice view from the cliff. It looks natural, I wouldn't have noticed the blending. Attila jtca> http://tinyurl.com/y3ak86 jtca> As always, comments and critique welcomed. jtca> Cheers jtca> James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Dawn from the clifftops
Thank you Dario. I find I shoot quite a lot of landscapes vertically and I often prefer to include a fair bit of foreground detail in my compositions, whether vertical or horizontal. James - Original Message - From: "Dario Bonazza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 10:40 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Dawn from the clifftops >I like the picture very much, probably because it is the kind of >composition > I often try when shooting landscapes ;-) > By only framing the distant mountains and sky would result in a typical > postcard, while I find this "deep view" far more interesting. Well done! > > Dario > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 5:05 AM > Subject: PESO - Dawn from the clifftops > > >> This is a shot I took in February and never really did anything with. I >> revisited it on >> the weekend armed with a few more months of experience with photoshop. >> >> I processed the RAW file twice, once for shadow detail and once for >> highlights and >> sky colour. I then blended them in PS CS2. I tried to keep it looking >> natural so I >> haven't gone overboard...I just tried to do enough to render the scene as >> I saw it. >> I've deliberately kept it a little on the dark side for that reason. Any >> lighter and I >> started to lose the colour saturation of the sky. If I compensated for >> that, then it >> started to look over ps'd and unnatural. To me, this result is as close >> as I can get >> to how the scene looked to the naked eye as the sun rose behind the cliff >> face. >> >> http://tinyurl.com/y3ak86 >> >> As always, comments and critique welcomed. >> >> Cheers >> James >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Dawn from the clifftops
I like the picture very much, probably because it is the kind of composition I often try when shooting landscapes ;-) By only framing the distant mountains and sky would result in a typical postcard, while I find this "deep view" far more interesting. Well done! Dario - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 5:05 AM Subject: PESO - Dawn from the clifftops > This is a shot I took in February and never really did anything with. I > revisited it on > the weekend armed with a few more months of experience with photoshop. > > I processed the RAW file twice, once for shadow detail and once for > highlights and > sky colour. I then blended them in PS CS2. I tried to keep it looking > natural so I > haven't gone overboard...I just tried to do enough to render the scene as > I saw it. > I've deliberately kept it a little on the dark side for that reason. Any > lighter and I > started to lose the colour saturation of the sky. If I compensated for > that, then it > started to look over ps'd and unnatural. To me, this result is as close > as I can get > to how the scene looked to the naked eye as the sun rose behind the cliff > face. > > http://tinyurl.com/y3ak86 > > As always, comments and critique welcomed. > > Cheers > James > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Dawn from the clifftops
Thank you Boris. I just wasn't quite able to keep the sky colours saturated without the double processing as the sun is just hidden by the cliff face. James - Original Message - From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 8:39 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Dawn from the clifftops > If I haven't read in your message that it was processed twice and then > blended, I wouldn't have guessed. It is done really well. > > I think this is great *work*! > > On 10/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> This is a shot I took in February and never really did anything with. I >> revisited it on >> the weekend armed with a few more months of experience with photoshop. >> >> I processed the RAW file twice, once for shadow detail and once for >> highlights and >> sky colour. I then blended them in PS CS2. I tried to keep it looking >> natural so I >> haven't gone overboard...I just tried to do enough to render the scene as >> I saw it. >> I've deliberately kept it a little on the dark side for that reason. Any >> lighter and I >> started to lose the colour saturation of the sky. If I compensated for >> that, then it >> started to look over ps'd and unnatural. To me, this result is as close >> as I can get >> to how the scene looked to the naked eye as the sun rose behind the cliff >> face. >> >> http://tinyurl.com/y3ak86 >> >> As always, comments and critique welcomed. >> >> Cheers >> James >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > > > -- > Boris > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Dawn from the clifftops
Thanks very much Jan. I actually used a photoshop action to blend the two images. It's an action I downloaded and it works really well. It certainly simplifies the process but finetuning is still required in terms of levels and curves. Cheers James - Original Message - From: "Jan van Wijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 6:57 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Dawn from the clifftops > Hi James, > > On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:05:31 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>This is a shot I took in February and never really did anything with. I >>revisited it on >>the weekend armed with a few more months of experience with photoshop. > > Beatiful shot! > I like the high dynamic range with good detail in the FG rocks > and the nice sunrise colors with a little fog in the BG ... > >>I processed the RAW file twice, once for shadow detail and once for >>highlights and >>sky colour. I then blended them in PS CS2. > > Did you do any masking between the two layers ? > Or did you just blend them ? > >>I tried to keep it looking natural so I >>haven't gone overboard...I just tried to do enough to render the scene as >>I saw it. >>I've deliberately kept it a little on the dark side for that reason. Any >>lighter and I >>started to lose the colour saturation of the sky. If I compensated for >>that, then it >>started to look over ps'd and unnatural. To me, this result is as close >>as I can get >>to how the scene looked to the naked eye as the sun rose behind the cliff >>face. >> >>http://tinyurl.com/y3ak86 >> >>As always, comments and critique welcomed. > > Nice shot, good rendering! > > Regards, JvW > > -- > Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Dawn from the clifftops
Thanks mate. I hadn't noticed the clouds before, they do detract, but they were there, so my inclination is to leave them. This was shot at the Booroomba Rocks in Namadgi National Park. The start of the walking track is only a 20 minute drive from home. It's a beautiful spot, but a hell of a steep walk up there. I'm planning on taking the K10D and 67 up there this summer...that'll be hard work! James - Original Message - From: "Brian Walters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 6:51 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Dawn from the clifftops > > Great shot James - colours and composition are spot on. Just not sure > about the clouds. Perhaps you could try cloning them out to see if it > improves things. But it's a minor quibble. > > Where is this, by the way? > > > Cheers > > Brian > > ++ > Brian Walters > Western Sydney Australia > > > > > > Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > >> This is a shot I took in February and never really did anything >> with. I revisited it on >> the weekend armed with a few more months of experience with >> photoshop. >> >> I processed the RAW file twice, once for shadow detail and once for >> highlights and >> sky colour. I then blended them in PS CS2. I tried to keep it >> looking natural so I >> haven't gone overboard...I just tried to do enough to render the >> scene as I saw it. >> I've deliberately kept it a little on the dark side for that >> reason. Any lighter and I >> started to lose the colour saturation of the sky. If I compensated >> for that, then it >> started to look over ps'd and unnatural. To me, this result is as >> close as I can get >> to how the scene looked to the naked eye as the sun rose behind the >> cliff face. >> >> http://tinyurl.com/y3ak86 >> >> As always, comments and critique welcomed. > > > > > -- > Get a spam free email account - Visit http://www.bluebottle.com > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Dawn from the clifftops
Excellent composition. Nice work. I'd probably clone out the two clouds at upper left. Paul On Oct 29, 2006, at 11:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This is a shot I took in February and never really did anything with. > I revisited it on > the weekend armed with a few more months of experience with photoshop. > > I processed the RAW file twice, once for shadow detail and once for > highlights and > sky colour. I then blended them in PS CS2. I tried to keep it > looking natural so I > haven't gone overboard...I just tried to do enough to render the scene > as I saw it. > I've deliberately kept it a little on the dark side for that reason. > Any lighter and I > started to lose the colour saturation of the sky. If I compensated > for that, then it > started to look over ps'd and unnatural. To me, this result is as > close as I can get > to how the scene looked to the naked eye as the sun rose behind the > cliff face. > > http://tinyurl.com/y3ak86 > > As always, comments and critique welcomed. > > Cheers > James > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Dawn from the clifftops
Really nice James. Dave On 10/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is a shot I took in February and never really did anything with. I > revisited it on > the weekend armed with a few more months of experience with photoshop. > > I processed the RAW file twice, once for shadow detail and once for > highlights and > sky colour. I then blended them in PS CS2. I tried to keep it looking > natural so I > haven't gone overboard...I just tried to do enough to render the scene as I > saw it. > I've deliberately kept it a little on the dark side for that reason. Any > lighter and I > started to lose the colour saturation of the sky. If I compensated for that, > then it > started to look over ps'd and unnatural. To me, this result is as close as I > can get > to how the scene looked to the naked eye as the sun rose behind the cliff > face. > > http://tinyurl.com/y3ak86 > > As always, comments and critique welcomed. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Dawn from the clifftops
If I haven't read in your message that it was processed twice and then blended, I wouldn't have guessed. It is done really well. I think this is great *work*! On 10/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is a shot I took in February and never really did anything with. I > revisited it on > the weekend armed with a few more months of experience with photoshop. > > I processed the RAW file twice, once for shadow detail and once for > highlights and > sky colour. I then blended them in PS CS2. I tried to keep it looking > natural so I > haven't gone overboard...I just tried to do enough to render the scene as I > saw it. > I've deliberately kept it a little on the dark side for that reason. Any > lighter and I > started to lose the colour saturation of the sky. If I compensated for that, > then it > started to look over ps'd and unnatural. To me, this result is as close as I > can get > to how the scene looked to the naked eye as the sun rose behind the cliff > face. > > http://tinyurl.com/y3ak86 > > As always, comments and critique welcomed. > > Cheers > James > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Dawn from the clifftops
Hi James, On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:05:31 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >This is a shot I took in February and never really did anything with. I >revisited it on >the weekend armed with a few more months of experience with photoshop. Beatiful shot! I like the high dynamic range with good detail in the FG rocks and the nice sunrise colors with a little fog in the BG ... >I processed the RAW file twice, once for shadow detail and once for highlights >and >sky colour. I then blended them in PS CS2. Did you do any masking between the two layers ? Or did you just blend them ? >I tried to keep it looking natural so I >haven't gone overboard...I just tried to do enough to render the scene as I >saw it. >I've deliberately kept it a little on the dark side for that reason. Any >lighter and I >started to lose the colour saturation of the sky. If I compensated for that, >then it >started to look over ps'd and unnatural. To me, this result is as close as I >can get >to how the scene looked to the naked eye as the sun rose behind the cliff face. > >http://tinyurl.com/y3ak86 > >As always, comments and critique welcomed. Nice shot, good rendering! Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Dawn from the clifftops
Great shot James - colours and composition are spot on. Just not sure about the clouds. Perhaps you could try cloning them out to see if it improves things. But it's a minor quibble. Where is this, by the way? Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > This is a shot I took in February and never really did anything > with. I revisited it on > the weekend armed with a few more months of experience with > photoshop. > > I processed the RAW file twice, once for shadow detail and once for > highlights and > sky colour. I then blended them in PS CS2. I tried to keep it > looking natural so I > haven't gone overboard...I just tried to do enough to render the > scene as I saw it. > I've deliberately kept it a little on the dark side for that > reason. Any lighter and I > started to lose the colour saturation of the sky. If I compensated > for that, then it > started to look over ps'd and unnatural. To me, this result is as > close as I can get > to how the scene looked to the naked eye as the sun rose behind the > cliff face. > > http://tinyurl.com/y3ak86 > > As always, comments and critique welcomed. -- Get a spam free email account - Visit http://www.bluebottle.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Dawn from the clifftops
I rather like this one. Your skills look pretty good. It doesn't seem to be overdone. I especially like the composition. The sky helps emphasize the rock structures. Nice work! -- Best regards, Bruce Sunday, October 29, 2006, 8:05:31 PM, you wrote: jtca> This is a shot I took in February and never really did jtca> anything with. I revisited it on jtca> the weekend armed with a few more months of experience with photoshop. jtca> I processed the RAW file twice, once for shadow detail and once for highlights and jtca> sky colour. I then blended them in PS CS2. I tried to jtca> keep it looking natural so I jtca> haven't gone overboard...I just tried to do enough to jtca> render the scene as I saw it. jtca> I've deliberately kept it a little on the dark side for jtca> that reason. Any lighter and I jtca> started to lose the colour saturation of the sky. If I jtca> compensated for that, then it jtca> started to look over ps'd and unnatural. To me, this jtca> result is as close as I can get jtca> to how the scene looked to the naked eye as the sun rose behind the cliff face. jtca> http://tinyurl.com/y3ak86 jtca> As always, comments and critique welcomed. jtca> Cheers jtca> James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO - Dawn from the clifftops
Quite nice! Tom C. Original Message Follows From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - Dawn from the clifftops Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:05:31 +1100 This is a shot I took in February and never really did anything with. I revisited it on the weekend armed with a few more months of experience with photoshop. I processed the RAW file twice, once for shadow detail and once for highlights and sky colour. I then blended them in PS CS2. I tried to keep it looking natural so I haven't gone overboard...I just tried to do enough to render the scene as I saw it. I've deliberately kept it a little on the dark side for that reason. Any lighter and I started to lose the colour saturation of the sky. If I compensated for that, then it started to look over ps'd and unnatural. To me, this result is as close as I can get to how the scene looked to the naked eye as the sun rose behind the cliff face. http://tinyurl.com/y3ak86 As always, comments and critique welcomed. Cheers James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Dawn from the clifftops
Very nice capture. Love the features in the foreground rock. Normally I like/want features in the sky, but in this shot I find the few clouds in the ULH corner slightly distracting. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: PESO - Dawn from the clifftops > This is a shot I took in February and never really did anything with. I > revisited it on > the weekend armed with a few more months of experience with photoshop. > > I processed the RAW file twice, once for shadow detail and once for > highlights and > sky colour. I then blended them in PS CS2. I tried to keep it looking > natural so I > haven't gone overboard...I just tried to do enough to render the scene as > I saw it. > I've deliberately kept it a little on the dark side for that reason. Any > lighter and I > started to lose the colour saturation of the sky. If I compensated for > that, then it > started to look over ps'd and unnatural. To me, this result is as close > as I can get > to how the scene looked to the naked eye as the sun rose behind the cliff > face. > > http://tinyurl.com/y3ak86 > > As always, comments and critique welcomed. > > Cheers > James > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Dawn from the clifftops
This is a shot I took in February and never really did anything with. I revisited it on the weekend armed with a few more months of experience with photoshop. I processed the RAW file twice, once for shadow detail and once for highlights and sky colour. I then blended them in PS CS2. I tried to keep it looking natural so I haven't gone overboard...I just tried to do enough to render the scene as I saw it. I've deliberately kept it a little on the dark side for that reason. Any lighter and I started to lose the colour saturation of the sky. If I compensated for that, then it started to look over ps'd and unnatural. To me, this result is as close as I can get to how the scene looked to the naked eye as the sun rose behind the cliff face. http://tinyurl.com/y3ak86 As always, comments and critique welcomed. Cheers James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
