Re: PESO - Morning Stroll

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 6:58 PM, P. J. Alling 
wrote:

> Are your sure they're women?


That is a dangerous question these days.

Dan Matyola
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Re: PESO - Morning Stroll

[P. J. Alling]

Are your sure they're women?


On 1/28/2017 5:54 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

Beautiful! They don't make women like that anymore!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ABml9AvVXQ4

On 28 Jan 2017, at 22:14, Rick Womer 
> wrote:

Still in Alfama:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18337161

Comments appreciated.

Rick





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Re: PESO - Morning Stroll

[Bob W-PDML]

Beautiful! They don't make women like that anymore!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ABml9AvVXQ4

On 28 Jan 2017, at 22:14, Rick Womer 
> wrote:

Still in Alfama:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18337161

Comments appreciated.

Rick


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PESO - Morning Stroll

[Rick Womer]

Still in Alfama:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18337161

Comments appreciated.

Rick



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Re: PESO: Morning Stroll

[brooksdj]

Hi Don.

I try to always find something positive to everything in life, but i have to 
agree,the
bokeh is
pretty harsh in this shot.

The composition of the vegitation is pretty good though.:-)The red against the 
green is
nice.

Dave

 Out playing with the A50/1.4 (Which I still 
don't get along with.)
 I came up with this Photo/Pic/Snap/Image or whatever it is:
 http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/Vert_Ant.htm
 
 It's a bit different, and it shows the wierd Bokeh I get with _my_
 50/1.4. Others seem to get much smoother OOF areas.
 Fairly large file, about 216K. Cropped from a .JPG.
 
 Don
 

PESO: Morning Stroll

[Don Sanderson]

Out playing with the A50/1.4 (Which I still don't get along with.)
I came up with this Photo/Pic/Snap/Image or whatever it is:
http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/Vert_Ant.htm

It's a bit different, and it shows the wierd Bokeh I get with _my_
50/1.4. Others seem to get much smoother OOF areas.
Fairly large file, about 216K. Cropped from a .JPG.

Don

RE: PESO: Morning Stroll

[Manuel Magalhães]

Hi Don,

I almost thought the background was like that because you wanted to.
Bokeh? I have to try that on my A 50/1.4. Works out very nice. Well done.

Manuel

-Mensagem original-
De: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Enviada: domingo, 28 de Agosto de 2005 14:11
Para: PDML
Assunto: PESO: Morning Stroll

Out playing with the A50/1.4 (Which I still don't get along with.) I came up
with this Photo/Pic/Snap/Image or whatever it is:
http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/Vert_Ant.htm

It's a bit different, and it shows the wierd Bokeh I get with _my_ 50/1.4.
Others seem to get much smoother OOF areas.
Fairly large file, about 216K. Cropped from a .JPG.

Don

RE: PESO: Morning Stroll

[Don Sanderson]

Thanks Manuel, the A50 doesn't seem to be anything like
any of my 3 M50s, I still wonder whether that's normal
or if I just have a bad sample of the A.

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Manuel Magalhães [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 8:20 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: PESO: Morning Stroll


 Hi Don,

 I almost thought the background was like that because you wanted to.
 Bokeh? I have to try that on my A 50/1.4. Works out very nice. Well done.

 Manuel

 -Mensagem original-
 De: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Enviada: domingo, 28 de Agosto de 2005 14:11
 Para: PDML
 Assunto: PESO: Morning Stroll

 Out playing with the A50/1.4 (Which I still don't get along
 with.) I came up
 with this Photo/Pic/Snap/Image or whatever it is:
 http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/Vert_Ant.htm

 It's a bit different, and it shows the wierd Bokeh I get with _my_ 50/1.4.
 Others seem to get much smoother OOF areas.
 Fairly large file, about 216K. Cropped from a .JPG.

 Don

Re: PESO: Morning Stroll

[frank theriault]

On 8/28/05, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Out playing with the A50/1.4 (Which I still don't get along with.)
 I came up with this Photo/Pic/Snap/Image or whatever it is:
 http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/Vert_Ant.htm
 
 It's a bit different, and it shows the wierd Bokeh I get with _my_
 50/1.4. Others seem to get much smoother OOF areas.
 Fairly large file, about 216K. Cropped from a .JPG.

Well, I like the photo/pic/snap/image/whatever-it-is.  The red really
contrasts nicely with the green background.  Nice comp, too.  The
inclusion of the insect also works well for me.

cheers,
frank

-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: PESO: Morning Stroll

[Mark Roberts]

Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks Manuel, the A50 doesn't seem to be anything like
any of my 3 M50s, I still wonder whether that's normal
or if I just have a bad sample of the A.

I'm afraid I'd have to lean toward the bad sample hypothesis. Although
I foolishly sold it years ago, my A50/1.4 was my all-time favorite lens
as far as bokeh is concerned.
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

RE: PESO: Morning Stroll

[Don Sanderson]

Thanks Frank, the ants travels are the basis of the title.
I guess we were _both_ out for a morning stroll. ;-)

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 8:37 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PESO: Morning Stroll
 
 
 On 8/28/05, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Out playing with the A50/1.4 (Which I still don't get along with.)
  I came up with this Photo/Pic/Snap/Image or whatever it is:
  http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/Vert_Ant.htm
  
  It's a bit different, and it shows the wierd Bokeh I get with _my_
  50/1.4. Others seem to get much smoother OOF areas.
  Fairly large file, about 216K. Cropped from a .JPG.
 
 Well, I like the photo/pic/snap/image/whatever-it-is.  The red really
 contrasts nicely with the green background.  Nice comp, too.  The
 inclusion of the insect also works well for me.
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
 -- 
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
 

Re: PESO: Morning Stroll

[P. J. Alling]

Interesting, I like the image, but I have noticed that the Bokeh, from a 
number of my lenses that
usually give nice smooth oof areas is quite a bit like this on the D.  
Usually it seems to have something to

do with the actual background.

Don Sanderson wrote:


Out playing with the A50/1.4 (Which I still don't get along with.)
I came up with this Photo/Pic/Snap/Image or whatever it is:
http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/Vert_Ant.htm

It's a bit different, and it shows the wierd Bokeh I get with _my_
50/1.4. Others seem to get much smoother OOF areas.
Fairly large file, about 216K. Cropped from a .JPG.

Don


 




--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

RE: PESO: Morning Stroll

[Don Sanderson]

That's what I think too, though I've had this lens
completely torn down 3 times and everything looks
perfect.
It was 100% like new when I got it, not even any
scuff marks on the mount ring from repeated use.
The wierdest part is that it has some worst
contrast in back lit situations of any of my SMC
lenses when wide open.
Yet the coatings are clearly visible and don't
appear damaged in any way.
Very puzzling.

Don


 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 8:55 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PESO: Morning Stroll
 
 
 Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Thanks Manuel, the A50 doesn't seem to be anything like
 any of my 3 M50s, I still wonder whether that's normal
 or if I just have a bad sample of the A.
 
 I'm afraid I'd have to lean toward the bad sample hypothesis. Although
 I foolishly sold it years ago, my A50/1.4 was my all-time favorite lens
 as far as bokeh is concerned.
  
  
 -- 
 Mark Roberts
 Photography and writing
 www.robertstech.com
 

RE: PESO: Morning Stroll

[Don Sanderson]

It's a very touchy lens, sometimes the results are very good
and other times I've triple checked to be sure I _really_
had an SMCP lens mounted, the results were that bad!
It seems to hate backlit and high contrast when wide
open or near wide open.
As I wrote to Mark, I've had the goofy thing apart 3 times
and see absolutely nothing wrong inside.
Clean, clear and solid. Zero oil film.
I think you may be right about digital being the difference.
I'll go shoot some film with it and see how it compares,
it's been quite a while since I've used it that way.

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: P. J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 8:50 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PESO: Morning Stroll
 
 
 Interesting, I like the image, but I have noticed that the Bokeh, from a 
 number of my lenses that
 usually give nice smooth oof areas is quite a bit like this on the D.  
 Usually it seems to have something to
 do with the actual background.
 
 Don Sanderson wrote:
 
 Out playing with the A50/1.4 (Which I still don't get along with.)
 I came up with this Photo/Pic/Snap/Image or whatever it is:
 http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/Vert_Ant.htm
 
 It's a bit different, and it shows the wierd Bokeh I get with _my_
 50/1.4. Others seem to get much smoother OOF areas.
 Fairly large file, about 216K. Cropped from a .JPG.
 
 Don
 
 
   
 
 
 
 -- 
 When you're worried or in doubt, 
   Run in circles, (scream and shout).
 

Re: PESO: Morning Stroll

[Paul Stenquist]

Not a bad pic, although the subject of interest (the bug) is not very 
well suited to shooting at this distance. Bokeh is largely dependent on 
the shape of the background objects and how distant they are from the 
subject. Here, you have some very bright objects that are too close to 
form smooth out of focus patterns.

Paul
On Aug 28, 2005, at 9:19 AM, Manuel Magalhães wrote:


Hi Don,

I almost thought the background was like that because you wanted to.
Bokeh? I have to try that on my A 50/1.4. Works out very nice. Well 
done.


Manuel

-Mensagem original-
De: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviada: domingo, 28 de Agosto de 2005 14:11
Para: PDML
Assunto: PESO: Morning Stroll

Out playing with the A50/1.4 (Which I still don't get along with.) I 
came up

with this Photo/Pic/Snap/Image or whatever it is:
http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/Vert_Ant.htm

It's a bit different, and it shows the wierd Bokeh I get with _my_ 
50/1.4.

Others seem to get much smoother OOF areas.
Fairly large file, about 216K. Cropped from a .JPG.

Don

Re: PESO: Morning Stroll

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Aug 28, 2005, at 6:10 AM, Don Sanderson wrote:


Out playing with the A50/1.4 (Which I still don't get along with.)
I came up with this Photo/Pic/Snap/Image or whatever it is:
http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/Vert_Ant.htm


I like the shot. It took a bit of study to notice the ant as it's not  
particularly well separated from the surrounding elements of the photo.



It's a bit different, and it shows the weird Bokeh I get with _my_
50/1.4. Others seem to get much smoother OOF areas.
Fairly large file, about 216K. Cropped from a .JPG.


Is this a 100% crop section, or scaled? When evaluating a lens'  
rendering with a digital camera, you have to be very careful to  
separate what is produced by the lens vs what is produced as an  
artifact of the scaling of an image. Scaling of out of focus blur on  
repeating patterns, for instance, can cause them to become  
accentuated at integral multiples of the original capture resolution,  
and attenuated at other scaling factors.


I've often had to do some additional rendering work after scaling an  
image for web resolution to reduce or eliminate this kind of artifact.


Godfrey

RE: PESO: Morning Stroll

[Don Sanderson]

This is scaled down from 1311x1817, doesn't seem to add any
artifacts though.
The ant stands out quite clearly on my monitor as the only
area of true black.
May be my calibration though, I'll have to check it again,
it's been a couple of months.

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 2:00 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PESO: Morning Stroll
 
 
 On Aug 28, 2005, at 6:10 AM, Don Sanderson wrote:
 
  Out playing with the A50/1.4 (Which I still don't get along with.)
  I came up with this Photo/Pic/Snap/Image or whatever it is:
  http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/Vert_Ant.htm
 
 I like the shot. It took a bit of study to notice the ant as it's not  
 particularly well separated from the surrounding elements of the photo.
 
  It's a bit different, and it shows the weird Bokeh I get with _my_
  50/1.4. Others seem to get much smoother OOF areas.
  Fairly large file, about 216K. Cropped from a .JPG.
 
 Is this a 100% crop section, or scaled? When evaluating a lens'  
 rendering with a digital camera, you have to be very careful to  
 separate what is produced by the lens vs what is produced as an  
 artifact of the scaling of an image. Scaling of out of focus blur on  
 repeating patterns, for instance, can cause them to become  
 accentuated at integral multiples of the original capture resolution,  
 and attenuated at other scaling factors.
 
 I've often had to do some additional rendering work after scaling an  
 image for web resolution to reduce or eliminate this kind of artifact.
 
 Godfrey
 

Re: PESO: Morning Stroll

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Aug 28, 2005, at 1:04 PM, Don Sanderson wrote:


This is scaled down from 1311x1817, doesn't seem to add any
artifacts though.


hmm. I put the image into iView Media Pro and played with scaling it  
up and down a bit. Scaled to approximately 2/3 of its current size,  
the out of focus rendering softens nicely.



The ant stands out quite clearly on my monitor as the only
area of true black.
May be my calibration though, I'll have to check it again,
it's been a couple of months.


When I first saw the photo, I thought the ant was a cluster of  
berries of some sort. The photo is somewhat busy right there in the  
middle. Enlarged 2x, the ant's head, thorax, abdomen and legs are clear.


This point is a matter of opinion, so if you're happy with it, who's  
to say anything otherwise? ;-)


Godfrey