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To use the AF-540FGZ this way you treat the non-wireless flash, in this case the ring flash, as a master and set the 540 in non-wireless Slave mode. It will then fire immediately that it sees another flash go off in its vicinity. You have to set the Slave Mode to SL2 to make this work. See page 52 in the 540 manual. You have to push and hold the Light button for 2 seconds then press the Select button to set SL2. Don't forget to change this back to SL1 when done or you'll get really erratic results in normal wireless modes. -bmw On 11-04-17 5:24 PM, AlunFoto wrote: The 160FC doesn't do wireless triggers, that's my understanding too. But I think the 540 has a built in photo cell for triggering in wireless slave mode. Haven't checked the manuals on this, but I'm fairly sure that's how it works. søndag 17. april 2011 skrev Toineto...@repiuk.nl følgende: How do you wireless trigger the 540? I have the same set of flashes and never thought it would be possible to combine them because to my knowledge the 160FC doesn't do wireless triggers. Toine On 17 April 2011 22:40, AlunFotoalunf...@gmail.com wrote: Shortened link to blog image only this time, since the text in the article has no connection to the motif. http://turl.no/fkb I've been playing around with a two-flash setup for macro in the last couple of days, using an AF540FGZ in addition to the AF160-FC ring flash. Getting the right balance between the two is an interesting exercise. When using the 540 to provide background illumination, I find it most predictable to set it to wireless slave mode, put it on manual and home in on the right illumination for the particular background. Pretty sure I haven't actually nailed it with this one, but even getting to a proof of concept is a small victory for me. Comments on lighting techniques most appreciated. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Just checked, and I had somehow managed to select SL2, so that's why I got some results at all, I suppose. Must have done that at a previous crossroads and forgotten. :-) I think I will stick to a cable-connected flash setup for now. Jostein 2011/4/18 Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com: To use the AF-540FGZ this way you treat the non-wireless flash, in this case the ring flash, as a master and set the 540 in non-wireless Slave mode. It will then fire immediately that it sees another flash go off in its vicinity. You have to set the Slave Mode to SL2 to make this work. See page 52 in the 540 manual. You have to push and hold the Light button for 2 seconds then press the Select button to set SL2. Don't forget to change this back to SL1 when done or you'll get really erratic results in normal wireless modes. -bmw On 11-04-17 5:24 PM, AlunFoto wrote: The 160FC doesn't do wireless triggers, that's my understanding too. But I think the 540 has a built in photo cell for triggering in wireless slave mode. Haven't checked the manuals on this, but I'm fairly sure that's how it works. søndag 17. april 2011 skrev Toineto...@repiuk.nl følgende: How do you wireless trigger the 540? I have the same set of flashes and never thought it would be possible to combine them because to my knowledge the 160FC doesn't do wireless triggers. Toine On 17 April 2011 22:40, AlunFotoalunf...@gmail.com wrote: Shortened link to blog image only this time, since the text in the article has no connection to the motif. http://turl.no/fkb I've been playing around with a two-flash setup for macro in the last couple of days, using an AF540FGZ in addition to the AF160-FC ring flash. Getting the right balance between the two is an interesting exercise. When using the 540 to provide background illumination, I find it most predictable to set it to wireless slave mode, put it on manual and home in on the right illumination for the particular background. Pretty sure I haven't actually nailed it with this one, but even getting to a proof of concept is a small victory for me. Comments on lighting techniques most appreciated. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Haven't tried it (yet). I would guess the 540 triggers on thee PTTL preflash. Toine On 18 April 2011 11:30, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: To use the AF-540FGZ this way you treat the non-wireless flash, in this case the ring flash, as a master and set the 540 in non-wireless Slave mode. It will then fire immediately that it sees another flash go off in its vicinity. You have to set the Slave Mode to SL2 to make this work. See page 52 in the 540 manual. You have to push and hold the Light button for 2 seconds then press the Select button to set SL2. Don't forget to change this back to SL1 when done or you'll get really erratic results in normal wireless modes. -bmw On 11-04-17 5:24 PM, AlunFoto wrote: The 160FC doesn't do wireless triggers, that's my understanding too. But I think the 540 has a built in photo cell for triggering in wireless slave mode. Haven't checked the manuals on this, but I'm fairly sure that's how it works. søndag 17. april 2011 skrev Toineto...@repiuk.nl følgende: How do you wireless trigger the 540? I have the same set of flashes and never thought it would be possible to combine them because to my knowledge the 160FC doesn't do wireless triggers. Toine On 17 April 2011 22:40, AlunFotoalunf...@gmail.com wrote: Shortened link to blog image only this time, since the text in the article has no connection to the motif. http://turl.no/fkb I've been playing around with a two-flash setup for macro in the last couple of days, using an AF540FGZ in addition to the AF160-FC ring flash. Getting the right balance between the two is an interesting exercise. When using the 540 to provide background illumination, I find it most predictable to set it to wireless slave mode, put it on manual and home in on the right illumination for the particular background. Pretty sure I haven't actually nailed it with this one, but even getting to a proof of concept is a small victory for me. Comments on lighting techniques most appreciated. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I did some more experiments today. In SL1 slave mode the 540 doesn't blink at all in wireless PTTL when the 160FC is used for triggering. I verified the 540 to be working by removing the 160FC and popping the internal flash. This worked as expected with no other settings changed. In SL2, I get more reliable results in M than in A. I think this is because my flash bracket doesn't let me position the flash so that the in-flash light meter points towards what I'm photographing. (god, I need to practice how to split up my sentences...) Jostein 2011/4/18 Toine to...@repiuk.nl: Haven't tried it (yet). I would guess the 540 triggers on thee PTTL preflash. Toine On 18 April 2011 11:30, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: To use the AF-540FGZ this way you treat the non-wireless flash, in this case the ring flash, as a master and set the 540 in non-wireless Slave mode. It will then fire immediately that it sees another flash go off in its vicinity. You have to set the Slave Mode to SL2 to make this work. See page 52 in the 540 manual. You have to push and hold the Light button for 2 seconds then press the Select button to set SL2. Don't forget to change this back to SL1 when done or you'll get really erratic results in normal wireless modes. -bmw On 11-04-17 5:24 PM, AlunFoto wrote: The 160FC doesn't do wireless triggers, that's my understanding too. But I think the 540 has a built in photo cell for triggering in wireless slave mode. Haven't checked the manuals on this, but I'm fairly sure that's how it works. søndag 17. april 2011 skrev Toineto...@repiuk.nl følgende: How do you wireless trigger the 540? I have the same set of flashes and never thought it would be possible to combine them because to my knowledge the 160FC doesn't do wireless triggers. Toine On 17 April 2011 22:40, AlunFotoalunf...@gmail.com wrote: Shortened link to blog image only this time, since the text in the article has no connection to the motif. http://turl.no/fkb I've been playing around with a two-flash setup for macro in the last couple of days, using an AF540FGZ in addition to the AF160-FC ring flash. Getting the right balance between the two is an interesting exercise. When using the 540 to provide background illumination, I find it most predictable to set it to wireless slave mode, put it on manual and home in on the right illumination for the particular background. Pretty sure I haven't actually nailed it with this one, but even getting to a proof of concept is a small victory for me. Comments on lighting techniques most appreciated. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Wow tried this when I got home and it works. Never realized the slave function of the Pentax flashes had some intelligence and ignored the P-TTL preflash. This opens new options. The A setting of the flash is another great tool for this. Jostein and bruce Thanks! Maybe I should read the manuals... On 18 April 2011 11:30, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: To use the AF-540FGZ this way you treat the non-wireless flash, in this case the ring flash, as a master and set the 540 in non-wireless Slave mode. It will then fire immediately that it sees another flash go off in its vicinity. You have to set the Slave Mode to SL2 to make this work. See page 52 in the 540 manual. You have to push and hold the Light button for 2 seconds then press the Select button to set SL2. Don't forget to change this back to SL1 when done or you'll get really erratic results in normal wireless modes. -bmw On 11-04-17 5:24 PM, AlunFoto wrote: The 160FC doesn't do wireless triggers, that's my understanding too. But I think the 540 has a built in photo cell for triggering in wireless slave mode. Haven't checked the manuals on this, but I'm fairly sure that's how it works. søndag 17. april 2011 skrev Toineto...@repiuk.nl følgende: How do you wireless trigger the 540? I have the same set of flashes and never thought it would be possible to combine them because to my knowledge the 160FC doesn't do wireless triggers. Toine On 17 April 2011 22:40, AlunFotoalunf...@gmail.com wrote: Shortened link to blog image only this time, since the text in the article has no connection to the motif. http://turl.no/fkb I've been playing around with a two-flash setup for macro in the last couple of days, using an AF540FGZ in addition to the AF160-FC ring flash. Getting the right balance between the two is an interesting exercise. When using the 540 to provide background illumination, I find it most predictable to set it to wireless slave mode, put it on manual and home in on the right illumination for the particular background. Pretty sure I haven't actually nailed it with this one, but even getting to a proof of concept is a small victory for me. Comments on lighting techniques most appreciated. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 11-04-18 12:11 PM, Toine wrote: Maybe I should read the manuals... Mark! :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I won't :) Some more trail and error: It doesn't ignore the preflash.If you set the flash to Manual and full power it fires everything at the preflash. In the A setting it has enough power left to fire the flash twice.. Toine On 18 April 2011 18:16, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On 11-04-18 12:11 PM, Toine wrote: Maybe I should read the manuals... Mark! :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Apr 18, 2011, at 4:37 AM, AlunFoto wrote: Just checked, and I had somehow managed to select SL2, so that's why I got some results at all, I suppose. Must have done that at a previous crossroads and forgotten. :-) Been there, done that. Ran into problems about a month ago. I think I will stick to a cable-connected flash setup for now. The weird thing is that my cheap cable from (IIRC) link delight works better than the expensive Pentax cable. And since it has a shoe at the end, rather than the four pin screw in connector, I can use it with other flashes. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You're right. it works from 1/2 and downwards, though. Jostein 2011/4/18 Toine to...@repiuk.nl: I won't :) Some more trail and error: It doesn't ignore the preflash.If you set the flash to Manual and full power it fires everything at the preflash. In the A setting it has enough power left to fire the flash twice.. Toine On 18 April 2011 18:16, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On 11-04-18 12:11 PM, Toine wrote: Maybe I should read the manuals... Mark! :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Pussy willows
Shortened link to blog image only this time, since the text in the article has no connection to the motif. http://turl.no/fkb I've been playing around with a two-flash setup for macro in the last couple of days, using an AF540FGZ in addition to the AF160-FC ring flash. Getting the right balance between the two is an interesting exercise. When using the 540 to provide background illumination, I find it most predictable to set it to wireless slave mode, put it on manual and home in on the right illumination for the particular background. Pretty sure I haven't actually nailed it with this one, but even getting to a proof of concept is a small victory for me. Comments on lighting techniques most appreciated. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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How do you wireless trigger the 540? I have the same set of flashes and never thought it would be possible to combine them because to my knowledge the 160FC doesn't do wireless triggers. Toine On 17 April 2011 22:40, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Shortened link to blog image only this time, since the text in the article has no connection to the motif. http://turl.no/fkb I've been playing around with a two-flash setup for macro in the last couple of days, using an AF540FGZ in addition to the AF160-FC ring flash. Getting the right balance between the two is an interesting exercise. When using the 540 to provide background illumination, I find it most predictable to set it to wireless slave mode, put it on manual and home in on the right illumination for the particular background. Pretty sure I haven't actually nailed it with this one, but even getting to a proof of concept is a small victory for me. Comments on lighting techniques most appreciated. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The 160FC doesn't do wireless triggers, that's my understanding too. But I think the 540 has a built in photo cell for triggering in wireless slave mode. Haven't checked the manuals on this, but I'm fairly sure that's how it works. søndag 17. april 2011 skrev Toine to...@repiuk.nl følgende: How do you wireless trigger the 540? I have the same set of flashes and never thought it would be possible to combine them because to my knowledge the 160FC doesn't do wireless triggers. Toine On 17 April 2011 22:40, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Shortened link to blog image only this time, since the text in the article has no connection to the motif. http://turl.no/fkb I've been playing around with a two-flash setup for macro in the last couple of days, using an AF540FGZ in addition to the AF160-FC ring flash. Getting the right balance between the two is an interesting exercise. When using the 540 to provide background illumination, I find it most predictable to set it to wireless slave mode, put it on manual and home in on the right illumination for the particular background. Pretty sure I haven't actually nailed it with this one, but even getting to a proof of concept is a small victory for me. Comments on lighting techniques most appreciated. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Look pretty good to me, but compositionally the background bud is distracting. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - Pussy willows Shortened link to blog image only this time, since the text in the article has no connection to the motif. http://turl.no/fkb I've been playing around with a two-flash setup for macro in the last couple of days, using an AF540FGZ in addition to the AF160-FC ring flash. Getting the right balance between the two is an interesting exercise. When using the 540 to provide background illumination, I find it most predictable to set it to wireless slave mode, put it on manual and home in on the right illumination for the particular background. Pretty sure I haven't actually nailed it with this one, but even getting to a proof of concept is a small victory for me. Comments on lighting techniques most appreciated. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I like the bokehed shadow bud to the left, but that's just taste. A really interesting shot. -Original Message- From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 22:40:58 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Pussy willows Shortened link to blog image only this time, since the text in the article has no connection to the motif. http://turl.no/fkb I've been playing around with a two-flash setup for macro in the last couple of days, using an AF540FGZ in addition to the AF160-FC ring flash. Getting the right balance between the two is an interesting exercise. When using the 540 to provide background illumination, I find it most predictable to set it to wireless slave mode, put it on manual and home in on the right illumination for the particular background. Pretty sure I haven't actually nailed it with this one, but even getting to a proof of concept is a small victory for me. Comments on lighting techniques most appreciated. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
