Re: PESO - Snow? What Snow?
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Derby Chang wrote: > That is a pretty cool use of the fisheye. Thanks Derby! I'm guessing you're referring to this photo: http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5806/2203/1600/pete(2).jpg It's one of my favourites ever taken with the fisheye - and it was a ~real~ fisheye since it was taken with the LX. Pete (the rider) was about 12 to 18 inches from the lens when I took it - I was basically standing over one of the pylons marking off the race course and he was cutting it pretty close. I cropped a bit to get him off centre. Thanks for the nice words! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Doug Franklin frank theriault wrote: > Real cyclists aren't intimidated by a little white stuff: > > http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2008/12/snow-what-snow.html Can you get studded snow tires for a bike? :-) Yes -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Snow? What Snow?
frank theriault wrote: On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: frank theriault wrote: Real cyclists aren't intimidated by a little white stuff: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2008/12/snow-what-snow.html Can you get studded snow tires for a bike? :-) All about courier ice races, including a photo of a studded bike tire: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2006/02/la-course-sur-la-glace.html You can buy them ready made, but they're way expensive, so most guys build their own. Studs are very impractical on roads, however. Wear down too fast and the grip on bare pavement is precarious at best. cheers, frank That is a pretty cool use of the fisheye. D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > That just looks ridiculous Frank! > It's a good picture that provokes some emotion and connection. > Regards, Bob S. Surprisingly, I saw a couple of bikes out on Sunday. I road my bike in much harsher conditions on Friday evening and it was much colder this morning and I rode my bike part of the way to work (the easy part - the bike went on a bus rack on the front of a bus for most of the 15 mile commute - I probably only road about 2 or 3 miles) this morning when it was ~much~ colder than yesterday when this photo was taken. Bikes are much easier to handle in the snow than most people realize! Thanks for the nice words. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That just looks ridiculous Frank! It's a good picture that provokes some emotion and connection. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:49 AM, frank theriault wrote: > Real cyclists aren't intimidated by a little white stuff: > > http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2008/12/snow-what-snow.html > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> wrote: > > > Great shot, frank. The buildup of snow on the bike is priceless. > > Thanks, Christian. > > It's for exactly that reason (snow and ice buildup) that IMHO the > fixed gear bike is the preferred weapon for winter riding. I've > ridden plenty of geared freewheel machines in the slop, and things > tend to freeze at the most inopportune times. One's derailleur > inevitably freezes in the wrong gear, brakes freeze just as you need > to stop at a red light at a busy intersection, etc, etc. > > With a fixed gear, none of this stuff happens. One gets steady, > reliable, well-modulated braking (limited only by the tire's traction) > and one's always in the right gear. > > After 10 years on the road as a messenger, I can tell you that caked > snow and ice on a bike can literally add 10 to 15 pounds to it! > Winter's a lot of fun! > > cheers, > frank That must be what's happening to mine. It's all getting covered in this kind of red, flakey ice which never melts. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:57:24 + Bob W wrote: > I wish we had hard winters here more often, I'd like to try snow > cycling. > > http://www.icebike.org/Articles/techniques.htm they have a great mail list as well. I shattered my ankle a few years back and its being hard to get into riding again. that walking thing is dangerous... never hurt myself biking in winter but walking has taken its toll over the years. Bran -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Christian wrote: > Great shot, frank. The buildup of snow on the bike is priceless. Thanks, Christian. It's for exactly that reason (snow and ice buildup) that IMHO the fixed gear bike is the preferred weapon for winter riding. I've ridden plenty of geared freewheel machines in the slop, and things tend to freeze at the most inopportune times. One's derailleur inevitably freezes in the wrong gear, brakes freeze just as you need to stop at a red light at a busy intersection, etc, etc. With a fixed gear, none of this stuff happens. One gets steady, reliable, well-modulated braking (limited only by the tire's traction) and one's always in the right gear. After 10 years on the road as a messenger, I can tell you that caked snow and ice on a bike can literally add 10 to 15 pounds to it! Winter's a lot of fun! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:34:12 -0500 frank theriault wrote: > I know that ready-made studded bike tires are way expensive. I also > know that in the vast majority of city winter conditions that we meet > here in Toronto can be easily dealt with on rubber. depends. I figure I get the studs for free as the tyres with studs cost me about the same as a set of soft rubber XC tyres. I get 3-4 seasons out of a set of studs and at most 2 out of the XC's. 10 months on the summer tyres and 21-28 on studs. winter tyres are cheap. :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I wish we had hard winters here more often, I'd like to try snow cycling. http://www.icebike.org/Articles/techniques.htm Bob > -Original Message- > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On > Behalf Of Bran Everseeking > Sent: 22 December 2008 19:24 > To: pdml@pdml.net > Subject: Re: PESO - Snow? What Snow? > > On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:50:54 -0500 > Mark Roberts wrote: > > > > frank theriault wrote: > > >> Real cyclists aren't intimidated by a little white stuff: > > >> > > >> http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2008/12/snow-what-snow.html > > > > > > Can you get studded snow tires for a bike? :-) > > an huge variety. Schwalbe and nokian being the two best makers imo > though its mostly ice and packed snow that needs a specialised tyre. > > I am being too whimpy to ride at -30 C + wind chills > > Bran -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That's a classic - send to a cycling magazine. > -Original Message- > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On > Behalf Of frank theriault > Sent: 22 December 2008 17:50 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: PESO - Snow? What Snow? > > Real cyclists aren't intimidated by a little white stuff: > > http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2008/12/snow-what-snow.html > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly > above and follow the directions. > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 12/22/08, frank theriault wrote: > On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Bran Everseeking > wrote: > > On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:19:05 -0500 > > frank theriault wrote: > > > >> Studs are very impractical on roads, however. Wear down too fast and > >> the grip on bare pavement is precarious at best. > > > > carbide studs and a good design goes a long way. > I just got a pair of Nokian W106 tires (slightly used, $20 per). All the studs are outboard of the center line, so I hope they don't suck on bare pavement. I can't wait to try them out! > I know that ready-made studded bike tires are way expensive. I also > know that in the vast majority of city winter conditions that we meet > here in Toronto can be easily dealt with on rubber. I think you're right. But a chance to try out some new toys is hard to pass up. :) -- Scott Loveless New Cumberland, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Bran Everseeking wrote: > On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:19:05 -0500 > frank theriault wrote: > >> Studs are very impractical on roads, however. Wear down too fast and >> the grip on bare pavement is precarious at best. > > carbide studs and a good design goes a long way. I must admit that I have no personal experience with studs, other than photographing couriers at ice races. Of course, their concern is restricted to traction on sheer ice - no need to consider something that would work on both ice and pavement. I know that ready-made studded bike tires are way expensive. I also know that in the vast majority of city winter conditions that we meet here in Toronto can be easily dealt with on rubber. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:19:05 -0500 frank theriault wrote: > Studs are very impractical on roads, however. Wear down too fast and > the grip on bare pavement is precarious at best. carbide studs and a good design goes a long way. Bran -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ya but he has fenders.:-) Good shot Frank Dave On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 12:49 PM, frank theriault wrote: > Real cyclists aren't intimidated by a little white stuff: > > http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2008/12/snow-what-snow.html > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:50:54 -0500 Mark Roberts wrote: > > frank theriault wrote: > >> Real cyclists aren't intimidated by a little white stuff: > >> > >> http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2008/12/snow-what-snow.html > > > > Can you get studded snow tires for a bike? :-) an huge variety. Schwalbe and nokian being the two best makers imo though its mostly ice and packed snow that needs a specialised tyre. I am being too whimpy to ride at -30 C + wind chills Bran -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: > frank theriault wrote: >> >> Real cyclists aren't intimidated by a little white stuff: >> >> http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2008/12/snow-what-snow.html > > Can you get studded snow tires for a bike? :-) All about courier ice races, including a photo of a studded bike tire: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2006/02/la-course-sur-la-glace.html You can buy them ready made, but they're way expensive, so most guys build their own. Studs are very impractical on roads, however. Wear down too fast and the grip on bare pavement is precarious at best. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Doug Franklin wrote: frank theriault wrote: Real cyclists aren't intimidated by a little white stuff: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2008/12/snow-what-snow.html Can you get studded snow tires for a bike? :-) http://www.rockcentralcycle.com/Ice-Tires-and-ice-screws.page Big fun! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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frank theriault wrote: Real cyclists aren't intimidated by a little white stuff: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2008/12/snow-what-snow.html Can you get studded snow tires for a bike? :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I think I can hear the circus music playing in the background. Another good catch, Frank. Jack --- On Mon, 12/22/08, frank theriault wrote: > From: frank theriault > Subject: PESO - Snow? What Snow? > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 9:49 AM > Real cyclists aren't intimidated by a little white > stuff: > > http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2008/12/snow-what-snow.html > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri > Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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frank theriault wrote: Real cyclists aren't intimidated by a little white stuff: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2008/12/snow-what-snow.html cheers, frank Great shot, frank. The buildup of snow on the bike is priceless. -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Real cyclists aren't intimidated by a little white stuff: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2008/12/snow-what-snow.html cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
