Re: PESO The Scream

[Brian Walters]

On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 01:09 -0700, "Larry Colen"  wrote:
> I was driving home this afternoon, and this caught my eye.  I found
> myself shooting then analyzing rather than thinking before shooting, so I
> tried to think and plan ahead more as people suggested. Those pictures
> sucked, but I kind of like this one:
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5549662724/
> 
> Comments and suggestions always welcome.
> 


Yeah, there certainly seems to be something inside that tree that
doesn't want to be there

Well spotted.


Cheers

Brian

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RE: PESO The Scream

[Bob W]

> Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est
> > > I think I've got you beat there - I've still got my original 1974
> > D&D booklets (the white-boxed three volumes, plus the first four
> > expansions).
> 
> I wonder if the members of the Canon discussion forums brag so
> enthusiastically about their own nerdiness.  Sometimes I'm surprised
> that there are any second generation Pentaxians.

Canon photographers share 98.5% of their DNA with the rest of us,
apparently:


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Re: PESO The Scream

[Walter Gilbert]

On 3/22/2011 6:03 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

Sometimes I'm surprised that there are any second generation Pentaxians.


Ha!  Well, I can tell you none of them are mine!

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RE: PESO The Scream

[Bob W]

> Larry Colen
[...]
> >
> > I think I've got you beat there - I've still got my original 1974
> > D&D booklets (the white-boxed three volumes, plus the first four
> > expansions).
> 
> I wonder if the members of the Canon discussion forums brag so
> enthusiastically about their own nerdiness.  Sometimes I'm surprised
> that there are any second generation Pentaxians.

there's a lot to be said for chloroform and a velvet hood.

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Re: PESO The Scream

[Walter Gilbert]

On 3/22/2011 5:09 PM, John Francis wrote:

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 02:16:28PM -0500, Walter Gilbert wrote:

  Very cool shot, Larry!  I've been trying to think of what it
reminds me of, and at the risk of outing myself as an old-school
Dungeons&  Dragons geek, I finally figured it out.  There's a
creature called the "Shambling Mound" in the Monster Manual:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3320/3183005607_b4626432ba.jpg?v=0

Now, feel free to go about making fun of the D&D nerd.

-- Walt

I think I've got you beat there - I've still got my original 1974
D&D booklets (the white-boxed three volumes, plus the first four
expansions).  They're in fairly good shape, because by the time I
was gaming regularly we were either using AD&D or, more often, a
variety of home-grown rule systems loosely based on AD&D.
The most common variation was one that would be recognised by an
average RPG player of today - using mana points, rather than the
fire(ball)-and-forget magic system of by-the-book D&D/AD&D.

I've also got a complete set of Dragon magazine up to issue 250 or
so (including all 7 issues of the pre-cursor Tactical Studies Rules),
and a fair assortment of other gaming accessories from those days.
My subscription to Dragon started around issue 60, I believe, but
I was able to fill in most of the early gaps in the late '80s by
scouring sales I found on this newfangled usenet newsgroups world
(including one generous gamer who sold me 30 early issues at face,
including half a dozen issues from the first three years; the only
issue that really forced me to pay collector prices was issue #1).


Yeah, I'd say you have me beat by a pretty good margin, John!  I 
probably played my first round of AD&D in 1983, or so.  You must be 
sitting on a small fortune in collector's items.


I haven't played since I got out of high school -- before the 2nd 
edition Player's Handbook came out with the new classes.  There were 
about six or seven guys I played with regularly, and I don't think we 
ever played a single round by-the-book -- though we had good 
intentions.  And we always had a good time, which was the important 
thing.  Eventually, though, it got to the point where we all had pet 
characters that we larded up to the point of invincibility, which took 
the sport out of it.


Still, it kept a bunch of small-town kids entertained and out of trouble 
during summer vacations.  And our parents always had a pretty good idea 
where we could be found after sundown.


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Re: PESO The Scream

[Larry Colen]

On Mar 22, 2011, at 3:09 PM, John Francis wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 02:16:28PM -0500, Walter Gilbert wrote:
>> Very cool shot, Larry!  I've been trying to think of what it
>> reminds me of, and at the risk of outing myself as an old-school
>> Dungeons & Dragons geek, I finally figured it out.  There's a
>> creature called the "Shambling Mound" in the Monster Manual:
>> 
>> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3320/3183005607_b4626432ba.jpg?v=0
>> 
>> Now, feel free to go about making fun of the D&D nerd.
>> 
>> -- Walt
> 
> I think I've got you beat there - I've still got my original 1974
> D&D booklets (the white-boxed three volumes, plus the first four
> expansions).  

I wonder if the members of the Canon discussion forums brag so enthusiastically 
about their own nerdiness.  Sometimes I'm surprised that there are any second 
generation Pentaxians.


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Re: PESO The Scream

[John Francis]

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 02:16:28PM -0500, Walter Gilbert wrote:
>  Very cool shot, Larry!  I've been trying to think of what it
> reminds me of, and at the risk of outing myself as an old-school
> Dungeons & Dragons geek, I finally figured it out.  There's a
> creature called the "Shambling Mound" in the Monster Manual:
> 
> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3320/3183005607_b4626432ba.jpg?v=0
> 
> Now, feel free to go about making fun of the D&D nerd.
> 
> -- Walt

I think I've got you beat there - I've still got my original 1974
D&D booklets (the white-boxed three volumes, plus the first four
expansions).  They're in fairly good shape, because by the time I
was gaming regularly we were either using AD&D or, more often, a
variety of home-grown rule systems loosely based on AD&D.
The most common variation was one that would be recognised by an
average RPG player of today - using mana points, rather than the
fire(ball)-and-forget magic system of by-the-book D&D/AD&D.

I've also got a complete set of Dragon magazine up to issue 250 or
so (including all 7 issues of the pre-cursor Tactical Studies Rules),
and a fair assortment of other gaming accessories from those days.
My subscription to Dragon started around issue 60, I believe, but
I was able to fill in most of the early gaps in the late '80s by
scouring sales I found on this newfangled usenet newsgroups world
(including one generous gamer who sold me 30 early issues at face,
including half a dozen issues from the first three years; the only
issue that really forced me to pay collector prices was issue #1).


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Re: PESO The Scream

[Larry Colen]

On Mar 22, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote:

> Very cool shot, Larry!  I've been trying to think of what it reminds me of, 
> and at the risk of outing myself as an old-school Dungeons & Dragons geek, I 
> finally figured it out.  There's a creature called the "Shambling Mound" in 
> the Monster Manual:
> 
> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3320/3183005607_b4626432ba.jpg?v=0
> 
> Now, feel free to go about making fun of the D&D nerd.

I'm only listed, so far as I know, in the credits for one Role Playing Game 
(Mekton). 


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Re: PESO The Scream

[Walter Gilbert]

 Very cool shot, Larry!  I've been trying to think of what it reminds 
me of, and at the risk of outing myself as an old-school Dungeons & 
Dragons geek, I finally figured it out.  There's a creature called the 
"Shambling Mound" in the Monster Manual:


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3320/3183005607_b4626432ba.jpg?v=0

Now, feel free to go about making fun of the D&D nerd.

-- Walt



On 3/22/2011 3:09 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

I was driving home this afternoon, and this caught my eye.  I found myself 
shooting then analyzing rather than thinking before shooting, so I tried to 
think and plan ahead more as people suggested. Those pictures sucked, but I 
kind of like this one:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5549662724/

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Re: PESO The Scream

[frank theriault]

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 4:09 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> I was driving home this afternoon, and this caught my eye.  I found myself 
> shooting then analyzing rather than thinking before shooting, so I tried to 
> think and plan ahead more as people suggested. Those pictures sucked, but I 
> kind of like this one:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5549662724/

Great eye!  Well captured and rendered.

Terrific photograph!

cheers,
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Re: PESO The Scream

[Ann Sanfedele]

Yup - very apt title...

ann

David J Brooks wrote:


Good eye, nice title

Dave

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 4:09 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
 


I was driving home this afternoon, and this caught my eye.  I found myself 
shooting then analyzing rather than thinking before shooting, so I tried to 
think and plan ahead more as people suggested. Those pictures sucked, but I 
kind of like this one:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5549662724/

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Re: PESO The Scream

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Very interesting image, well seen and well recorded.


dan

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 4:09 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> I was driving home this afternoon, and this caught my eye.  I found myself 
> shooting then analyzing rather than thinking before shooting, so I tried to 
> think and plan ahead more as people suggested. Those pictures sucked, but I 
> kind of like this one:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5549662724/
>
> Comments and suggestions always welcome.
>
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Re: PESO The Scream

[Ken Waller]

Nice capture.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Larry Colen" 

Subject: PESO The Scream


I was driving home this afternoon, and this caught my eye.  I found myself 
shooting then analyzing rather than thinking before shooting, so I tried to 
think and plan ahead more as people suggested. Those pictures sucked, but I 
kind of like this one:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5549662724/

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Re: PESO The Scream

[David J Brooks]

Good eye, nice title

Dave

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 4:09 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> I was driving home this afternoon, and this caught my eye.  I found myself 
> shooting then analyzing rather than thinking before shooting, so I tried to 
> think and plan ahead more as people suggested. Those pictures sucked, but I 
> kind of like this one:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5549662724/
>
> Comments and suggestions always welcome.
>
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Re: PESO The Scream

[Steven Desjardins]

That's great.  One of those title and picture combinations that works well.

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 4:09 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> I was driving home this afternoon, and this caught my eye.  I found myself 
> shooting then analyzing rather than thinking before shooting, so I tried to 
> think and plan ahead more as people suggested. Those pictures sucked, but I 
> kind of like this one:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5549662724/
>
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Re: PESO The Scream

[Jack Davis]

Works, Larry! Aptly titled.

Jack

--- On Tue, 3/22/11, Larry Colen  wrote:

> From: Larry Colen 
> Subject: PESO  The Scream
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 1:09 AM
> I was driving home this afternoon,
> and this caught my eye.  I found myself shooting then
> analyzing rather than thinking before shooting, so I tried
> to think and plan ahead more as people suggested. Those
> pictures sucked, but I kind of like this one:
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5549662724/
> 
> Comments and suggestions always welcome.
> 
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Re: PESO The Scream

[Jack Davis]

Works, Larry! Aptly titled.

Jack

--- On Tue, 3/22/11, Larry Colen  wrote:

> From: Larry Colen 
> Subject: PESO  The Scream
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 1:09 AM
> I was driving home this afternoon,
> and this caught my eye.  I found myself shooting then
> analyzing rather than thinking before shooting, so I tried
> to think and plan ahead more as people suggested. Those
> pictures sucked, but I kind of like this one:
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5549662724/
> 
> Comments and suggestions always welcome.
> 
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PESO The Scream

[Larry Colen]

I was driving home this afternoon, and this caught my eye.  I found myself 
shooting then analyzing rather than thinking before shooting, so I tried to 
think and plan ahead more as people suggested. Those pictures sucked, but I 
kind of like this one:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5549662724/

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Re: PESO - The Scream

[Paul Stenquist]

On Mar 2, 2011, at 10:02 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Paul Stenquist  
> wrote:
>> Apologies to Mr. Munch. f4, 1/200th, ISO 
>> 25,600http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12761835. Had to push it a 
>> stop in conversion, so it's more typical of ISO 51,200 performance. I have 
>> to remember to add some exposure comp in low tungsten light. Cropped to 
>> about 70% of frame.
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12761835
> 
> Not unlike Tmax 3200 in grain. Very nice shot. I think this is the
> first shot Grace has not been smiling in
> Dave
>> 

Thanks Dave. Perhaps it's more of a science experiment than a serious photo:-). 
I had the camera on live view as well as the outrageous ISO number. While I 
know autofocus can usually lock on in minimum light, I wanted to see if LV 
could do so as well. It did, but it struggled a bit.
Paul

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Re: PESO - The Scream

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On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Apologies to Mr. Munch. f4, 1/200th, ISO 
> 25,600http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12761835. Had to push it a stop 
> in conversion, so it's more typical of ISO 51,200 performance. I have to 
> remember to add some exposure comp in low tungsten light. Cropped to about 
> 70% of frame.
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12761835

Not unlike Tmax 3200 in grain. Very nice shot. I think this is the
first shot Grace has not been smiling in
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PESO - The Scream

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Apologies to Mr. Munch. f4, 1/200th, ISO 
25,600http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12761835. Had to push it a stop 
in conversion, so it's more typical of ISO 51,200 performance. I have to 
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of frame.
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Re: PESO: The Scream

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, John.

Dan M

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:51 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> From: "Daniel J. Matyola"
>>
>> I took the image because something about the sculpture grabbed my
>> attention and held it.  I tried to capture the feeling that it aroused
>> in me when I faced it.  I tried to make it look more like a statue --
>> or even a head -- than just a mask.  I tried to bring out the slight
>> discolorations and the textures to make it more three dimensional.  In
>> the end, however, it is merely a reasonably decent copy of the
>> original, as you point out.
>
> So what?
>
> "A reasonably decent copy of the original" might make a good illustration in
> an otherwise boring text book; a worthy use for a photograph in my opinion.
> And it has an added dimension for you because of the memory attached.
>
> We don't have the memory, but the photo at least takes us inside the museum
> as well as any museum catalog does.
>
> Even if it ain't "great art", it's a good photo.
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Re: PESO: The Scream

[John Sessoms]

From: "Daniel J. Matyola"

I took the image because something about the sculpture grabbed my
attention and held it.  I tried to capture the feeling that it aroused
in me when I faced it.  I tried to make it look more like a statue --
or even a head -- than just a mask.  I tried to bring out the slight
discolorations and the textures to make it more three dimensional.  In
the end, however, it is merely a reasonably decent copy of the
original, as you point out.


So what?

"A reasonably decent copy of the original" might make a good 
illustration in an otherwise boring text book; a worthy use for a 
photograph in my opinion. And it has an added dimension for you because 
of the memory attached.


We don't have the memory, but the photo at least takes us inside the 
museum as well as any museum catalog does.


Even if it ain't "great art", it's a good photo.

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Re: PESO: The Scream

[Daniel J. Matyola]

That is a very fair criticism.

I took the image because something about the sculpture grabbed my
attention and held it.  I tried to capture the feeling that it aroused
in me when I faced it.  I tried to make it look more like a statue --
or even a head -- than just a mask.  I tried to bring out the slight
discolorations and the textures to make it more three dimensional.  In
the end, however, it is merely a reasonably decent copy of the
original, as you point out.

It still affects me, almost as much as the original did.  That is
probably because I can recall the experience of seeing the original.
It is therefore easier for me to experience that feeling than it is to
create the feeling in someone looking at the photo who has not seen
the original.

Does that make sense?

Dan

On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Bruce Dayton  wrote:
> I tend to struggle with images which are just representations of art.
> If you were to look in a book or something to just see what it looked
> like, then this does a fine job.  But it leaves me with the feeling
> of just taking a picture of a picture.
>
> In order to make a picture of art, there either needs to be something
> very dynamic about the representation - could be emphasizing texture
> or lighting or something - or there needs to be other element(s) in
> the picture.  Basically it changes the image from just being a copy
> of the original art to being a new piece of art in it's own right.
>
> So for me, this shot is more a good copy of the original, but doesn't
> really grab me.  I hope my explanation makes sense.
>
> --
> Bruce
>
>
> Saturday, March 20, 2010, 6:44:03 PM, you wrote:
>
> DJM> Sculpture of a mask in the National Museum, Romes;
>
> DJM> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10825483
>
> DJM> Comments, criticisms, and suggestions greatly appreciated.
>
> DJM> Dan M
>
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Re: PESO: The Scream

[Bruce Dayton]

I tend to struggle with images which are just representations of art.
If you were to look in a book or something to just see what it looked
like, then this does a fine job.  But it leaves me with the feeling
of just taking a picture of a picture.

In order to make a picture of art, there either needs to be something
very dynamic about the representation - could be emphasizing texture
or lighting or something - or there needs to be other element(s) in
the picture.  Basically it changes the image from just being a copy
of the original art to being a new piece of art in it's own right.

So for me, this shot is more a good copy of the original, but doesn't
really grab me.  I hope my explanation makes sense.

-- 
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Saturday, March 20, 2010, 6:44:03 PM, you wrote:

DJM> Sculpture of a mask in the National Museum, Romes;

DJM> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10825483

DJM> Comments, criticisms, and suggestions greatly appreciated.

DJM> Dan M




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Re: PESO: The Scream

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I don't think it is from a fountain.  As I recall, it was excavated
from a theater and was the tragedy half of a comedy/tragedy set of
masks, but masks for display, not to be worn.

Dan

On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Bob W  wrote:
>>
>> Sculpture of a mask in the National Museum, Romes;
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10825483
>>
>> Comments, criticisms, and suggestions greatly appreciated.
>>
>
> That's the spout from a fountain, isn't it?
>
> Bob
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Re: PESO: The Scream

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks Marnie.  I think it came out well for 3200 ISO.  It was fairly
dark in the museum.

Dan

On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 1:13 AM,   wrote:
> Nice shot. Thought it was going to be that  painting by Munch. But this is
> a pretty effective scream too.
>
> Marnie aka  Doe :-)
> 
>
> In a message dated 3/20/2010 6:44:09 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
> danmaty...@gmail.com writes:
> Sculpture of a mask in  the National Museum,  Romes;
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10825483
>
> Comments,  criticisms, and suggestions greatly appreciated.
>
> Dan M
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Re: PESO: The Scream

[eckinator]

wowsers... what Bob said...

2010/3/21 Daniel J. Matyola :
> Sculpture of a mask in the National Museum, Romes;
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10825483
>
> Comments, criticisms, and suggestions greatly appreciated.
>
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RE: PESO: The Scream

[Bob W]

> 
> Sculpture of a mask in the National Museum, Romes;
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10825483
> 
> Comments, criticisms, and suggestions greatly appreciated.
> 

That's the spout from a fountain, isn't it?

Bob


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Re: PESO: The Scream

[Eactivist]

Nice shot. Thought it was going to be that  painting by Munch. But this is 
a pretty effective scream too.

Marnie aka  Doe :-)


In a message dated 3/20/2010 6:44:09 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
danmaty...@gmail.com writes:
Sculpture of a mask in  the National Museum,  Romes;

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10825483

Comments,  criticisms, and suggestions greatly appreciated.

Dan M  


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PESO: The Scream

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Sculpture of a mask in the National Museum, Romes;

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10825483

Comments, criticisms, and suggestions greatly appreciated.

Dan M

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