Re: PESO My first stereo image

2014-11-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Even I can see it now -- if a bit imperfectly -- on my larger monitor at work.

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On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Alan C  wrote:
> OK, Rob. Got it now. The trick is matching the distance from the screen with
> the right zone of my multi-focals.
>
> Alan C
>
> -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 2:04 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: PESO My first stereo image
>
> Alan, there should only appear to be three images when you cross your
> eyes, if there's four then your eyes are crossed way more than need
> be, try gently cross so that the images split into three looking
> initially at the white dots above.
>
> Chris, yep, two shots only and 75mm shift on a rail, not ideal of
> course, you can seee anomalies in the water and on the bridge where
> people moved but it sure beats full replicating a system to allow for
> simultaneous exposure. I'll do it again on a more static scene soon.
> Glad you were able to see it in "3D" :)
>
> Cheers,
>
> On 9 November 2014 20:10, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
>>
>> Works perfectly for me. Once I'd got the position right (approx 1
>> metre away from the screen which is a 27" iMac) it locked in and I
>> could look round the image just like you said.
>>
>> So is it 2 shots 75mm apart on the rail?
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On 8 November 2014 09:08, Rob Studdert  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Team,
>>>
>>> I decided to attempt to make a stereo image that can be viewed without
>>> aids, I can see it but can you?
>>>
>>> The viewing method is to open the image to full screen, face the
>>> screen perpendicularly and centered. Once set up cross your eyes so
>>> that three images appear, then focus on the middle of the three white
>>> dots and relax your eyes, you should then be able to look around the
>>> "middle 3D" image in comfort, if not try adjusting your viewing
>>> distance.
>>>
>>> Tech; K3 ISO 100 1/60s + Sigma 18-35/1.8 @ 5.6 + macro slide rail (set
>>> to slide sideways about 75mm) + tripod
>>>
>>> This one is for 1200 pixel high screens
>>>
>>>
>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMGL85705-IMGL85706%201200.jpg
>>>
>>> This for 1440 pixel high screens
>>>
>>>
>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMGL85705-IMGL85706%201440.jpg
>>>
>>> I'm keen to find out if anyone finds it impossible or a strain or
>>> really easy to view.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
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Re: PESO My first stereo image

2014-11-09 Thread Alan C
OK, Rob. Got it now. The trick is matching the distance from the screen with 
the right zone of my multi-focals.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Rob Studdert

Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 2:04 AM
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Subject: Re: PESO My first stereo image

Alan, there should only appear to be three images when you cross your
eyes, if there's four then your eyes are crossed way more than need
be, try gently cross so that the images split into three looking
initially at the white dots above.

Chris, yep, two shots only and 75mm shift on a rail, not ideal of
course, you can seee anomalies in the water and on the bridge where
people moved but it sure beats full replicating a system to allow for
simultaneous exposure. I'll do it again on a more static scene soon.
Glad you were able to see it in "3D" :)

Cheers,

On 9 November 2014 20:10, Chris Mitchell  wrote:

Works perfectly for me. Once I'd got the position right (approx 1
metre away from the screen which is a 27" iMac) it locked in and I
could look round the image just like you said.

So is it 2 shots 75mm apart on the rail?

Chris

On 8 November 2014 09:08, Rob Studdert  wrote:

Hi Team,

I decided to attempt to make a stereo image that can be viewed without
aids, I can see it but can you?

The viewing method is to open the image to full screen, face the
screen perpendicularly and centered. Once set up cross your eyes so
that three images appear, then focus on the middle of the three white
dots and relax your eyes, you should then be able to look around the
"middle 3D" image in comfort, if not try adjusting your viewing
distance.

Tech; K3 ISO 100 1/60s + Sigma 18-35/1.8 @ 5.6 + macro slide rail (set
to slide sideways about 75mm) + tripod

This one is for 1200 pixel high screens

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMGL85705-IMGL85706%201200.jpg

This for 1440 pixel high screens

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMGL85705-IMGL85706%201440.jpg

I'm keen to find out if anyone finds it impossible or a strain or
really easy to view.

Cheers,

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Re: PESO My first stereo image

2014-11-09 Thread Rob Studdert
Alan, there should only appear to be three images when you cross your
eyes, if there's four then your eyes are crossed way more than need
be, try gently cross so that the images split into three looking
initially at the white dots above.

Chris, yep, two shots only and 75mm shift on a rail, not ideal of
course, you can seee anomalies in the water and on the bridge where
people moved but it sure beats full replicating a system to allow for
simultaneous exposure. I'll do it again on a more static scene soon.
Glad you were able to see it in "3D" :)

Cheers,

On 9 November 2014 20:10, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
> Works perfectly for me. Once I'd got the position right (approx 1
> metre away from the screen which is a 27" iMac) it locked in and I
> could look round the image just like you said.
>
> So is it 2 shots 75mm apart on the rail?
>
> Chris
>
> On 8 November 2014 09:08, Rob Studdert  wrote:
>> Hi Team,
>>
>> I decided to attempt to make a stereo image that can be viewed without
>> aids, I can see it but can you?
>>
>> The viewing method is to open the image to full screen, face the
>> screen perpendicularly and centered. Once set up cross your eyes so
>> that three images appear, then focus on the middle of the three white
>> dots and relax your eyes, you should then be able to look around the
>> "middle 3D" image in comfort, if not try adjusting your viewing
>> distance.
>>
>> Tech; K3 ISO 100 1/60s + Sigma 18-35/1.8 @ 5.6 + macro slide rail (set
>> to slide sideways about 75mm) + tripod
>>
>> This one is for 1200 pixel high screens
>>
>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMGL85705-IMGL85706%201200.jpg
>>
>> This for 1440 pixel high screens
>>
>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMGL85705-IMGL85706%201440.jpg
>>
>> I'm keen to find out if anyone finds it impossible or a strain or
>> really easy to view.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
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Re: PESO My first stereo image

2014-11-09 Thread Chris Mitchell
Works perfectly for me. Once I'd got the position right (approx 1
metre away from the screen which is a 27" iMac) it locked in and I
could look round the image just like you said.

So is it 2 shots 75mm apart on the rail?

Chris

On 8 November 2014 09:08, Rob Studdert  wrote:
> Hi Team,
>
> I decided to attempt to make a stereo image that can be viewed without
> aids, I can see it but can you?
>
> The viewing method is to open the image to full screen, face the
> screen perpendicularly and centered. Once set up cross your eyes so
> that three images appear, then focus on the middle of the three white
> dots and relax your eyes, you should then be able to look around the
> "middle 3D" image in comfort, if not try adjusting your viewing
> distance.
>
> Tech; K3 ISO 100 1/60s + Sigma 18-35/1.8 @ 5.6 + macro slide rail (set
> to slide sideways about 75mm) + tripod
>
> This one is for 1200 pixel high screens
>
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMGL85705-IMGL85706%201200.jpg
>
> This for 1440 pixel high screens
>
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMGL85705-IMGL85706%201440.jpg
>
> I'm keen to find out if anyone finds it impossible or a strain or
> really easy to view.
>
> Cheers,
>
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Re: PESO My first stereo image

2014-11-08 Thread Alan C
I sort of get 3D but can't quite get dots 3 & 4 to merge. I tried several 
distances. I think the images need to be smaller.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Rob Studdert

Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 11:08 AM
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Subject: PESO My first stereo image

Hi Team,

I decided to attempt to make a stereo image that can be viewed without
aids, I can see it but can you?

The viewing method is to open the image to full screen, face the
screen perpendicularly and centered. Once set up cross your eyes so
that three images appear, then focus on the middle of the three white
dots and relax your eyes, you should then be able to look around the
"middle 3D" image in comfort, if not try adjusting your viewing
distance.

Tech; K3 ISO 100 1/60s + Sigma 18-35/1.8 @ 5.6 + macro slide rail (set
to slide sideways about 75mm) + tripod

This one is for 1200 pixel high screens

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMGL85705-IMGL85706%201200.jpg

This for 1440 pixel high screens

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMGL85705-IMGL85706%201440.jpg

I'm keen to find out if anyone finds it impossible or a strain or
really easy to view.

Cheers,

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Re: PESO My first stereo image

2014-11-08 Thread Bruce Walker
I'm squarely in the Impossible category. The 2D shot is nice enough though.

On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 4:08 AM, Rob Studdert  wrote:
> Hi Team,
>
> I decided to attempt to make a stereo image that can be viewed without
> aids, I can see it but can you?
>
> The viewing method is to open the image to full screen, face the
> screen perpendicularly and centered. Once set up cross your eyes so
> that three images appear, then focus on the middle of the three white
> dots and relax your eyes, you should then be able to look around the
> "middle 3D" image in comfort, if not try adjusting your viewing
> distance.
>
> Tech; K3 ISO 100 1/60s + Sigma 18-35/1.8 @ 5.6 + macro slide rail (set
> to slide sideways about 75mm) + tripod
>
> This one is for 1200 pixel high screens
>
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMGL85705-IMGL85706%201200.jpg
>
> This for 1440 pixel high screens
>
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMGL85705-IMGL85706%201440.jpg
>
> I'm keen to find out if anyone finds it impossible or a strain or
> really easy to view.
>
> Cheers,
>
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Re: PESO My first stereo image

2014-11-08 Thread Rob Studdert
Thanks for the feedback guys!

With the 1440 image full screen on my 27" monitor It's most
comfortable for me from about 1m/3' away from the screen, once locked
on I can keep the image focused without any strain, key is to keep
your head in the same position, look around with your eyes only.

Cheers,

On 8 November 2014 23:49, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> That's an old technique, but an effective one.
>
> I was able to get a bit of the 3D effect, but only partially and for a
> fleeting moment.  I think that's because I am viewing it at home on my
> laptop.  I will try again at the office on a larger monitor.
>
> How far from the monitor do you think it works best?
>
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 4:08 AM, Rob Studdert  wrote:
>> Hi Team,
>>
>> I decided to attempt to make a stereo image that can be viewed without
>> aids, I can see it but can you?
>>
>> The viewing method is to open the image to full screen, face the
>> screen perpendicularly and centered. Once set up cross your eyes so
>> that three images appear, then focus on the middle of the three white
>> dots and relax your eyes, you should then be able to look around the
>> "middle 3D" image in comfort, if not try adjusting your viewing
>> distance.
>>
>> Tech; K3 ISO 100 1/60s + Sigma 18-35/1.8 @ 5.6 + macro slide rail (set
>> to slide sideways about 75mm) + tripod
>>
>> This one is for 1200 pixel high screens
>>
>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMGL85705-IMGL85706%201200.jpg
>>
>> This for 1440 pixel high screens
>>
>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMGL85705-IMGL85706%201440.jpg
>>
>> I'm keen to find out if anyone finds it impossible or a strain or
>> really easy to view.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
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Re: PESO My first stereo image

2014-11-08 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That's an old technique, but an effective one.

I was able to get a bit of the 3D effect, but only partially and for a
fleeting moment.  I think that's because I am viewing it at home on my
laptop.  I will try again at the office on a larger monitor.

How far from the monitor do you think it works best?

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 4:08 AM, Rob Studdert  wrote:
> Hi Team,
>
> I decided to attempt to make a stereo image that can be viewed without
> aids, I can see it but can you?
>
> The viewing method is to open the image to full screen, face the
> screen perpendicularly and centered. Once set up cross your eyes so
> that three images appear, then focus on the middle of the three white
> dots and relax your eyes, you should then be able to look around the
> "middle 3D" image in comfort, if not try adjusting your viewing
> distance.
>
> Tech; K3 ISO 100 1/60s + Sigma 18-35/1.8 @ 5.6 + macro slide rail (set
> to slide sideways about 75mm) + tripod
>
> This one is for 1200 pixel high screens
>
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMGL85705-IMGL85706%201200.jpg
>
> This for 1440 pixel high screens
>
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMGL85705-IMGL85706%201440.jpg
>
> I'm keen to find out if anyone finds it impossible or a strain or
> really easy to view.
>
> Cheers,
>
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Re: PESO My first stereo image

2014-11-08 Thread Attila Boros
Clever trick with the macro rail. I can see it after moving farther
away from my monitor, when I'm sitting close I can't cross my eyes
enough. I think it's different for everyone, experiment with the
viewing distance if you don't get it at first try.

On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Rob Studdert  wrote:
> Hi Team,
>
> I decided to attempt to make a stereo image that can be viewed without
> aids, I can see it but can you?
>
> The viewing method is to open the image to full screen, face the
> screen perpendicularly and centered. Once set up cross your eyes so
> that three images appear, then focus on the middle of the three white
> dots and relax your eyes, you should then be able to look around the
> "middle 3D" image in comfort, if not try adjusting your viewing
> distance.
>
> Tech; K3 ISO 100 1/60s + Sigma 18-35/1.8 @ 5.6 + macro slide rail (set
> to slide sideways about 75mm) + tripod
>
> This one is for 1200 pixel high screens
>
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMGL85705-IMGL85706%201200.jpg
>
> This for 1440 pixel high screens
>
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMGL85705-IMGL85706%201440.jpg
>
> I'm keen to find out if anyone finds it impossible or a strain or
> really easy to view.
>
> Cheers,
>
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Re: PESO My first stereo image

2014-11-08 Thread Pete McIntosh

Hi Rob,

I got it but it took some effort and I couldn't hold it for long. Very 
good though. :-)


Ciao,

Pete in Melbourne

On 8/11/2014 20:08, Rob Studdert wrote:

Hi Team,

I decided to attempt to make a stereo image that can be viewed without
aids, I can see it but can you?

The viewing method is to open the image to full screen, face the
screen perpendicularly and centered. Once set up cross your eyes so
that three images appear, then focus on the middle of the three white
dots and relax your eyes, you should then be able to look around the
"middle 3D" image in comfort, if not try adjusting your viewing
distance.

Tech; K3 ISO 100 1/60s + Sigma 18-35/1.8 @ 5.6 + macro slide rail (set
to slide sideways about 75mm) + tripod

This one is for 1200 pixel high screens

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMGL85705-IMGL85706%201200.jpg

This for 1440 pixel high screens

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMGL85705-IMGL85706%201440.jpg

I'm keen to find out if anyone finds it impossible or a strain or
really easy to view.

Cheers,




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Re: PESO My first stereo image

2014-11-08 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Hi Rob,

After crossing my eyes and fingers, I got 4 dots (and 4 images).
Did you send a 4D version by mistake?
;-)

Or was that "3D" the size of that body feature in the foreground? ;-)

I think I need the ol'-fashioned 3D-scope (and to sleep in the middle of 
the night).


Cheers,

Igor



 Rob Studdert Sat, 08 Nov 2014 01:09:07 -0800 wrote:

Hi Team,

I decided to attempt to make a stereo image that can be viewed without
aids, I can see it but can you?


The viewing method is to open the image to full screen, face the
screen perpendicularly and centered. Once set up cross your eyes so
that three images appear, then focus on the middle of the three white
dots and relax your eyes, you should then be able to look around the
"middle 3D" image in comfort, if not try adjusting your viewing
distance.

Tech; K3 ISO 100 1/60s + Sigma 18-35/1.8 @ 5.6 + macro slide rail (set
to slide sideways about 75mm) + tripod

This one is for 1200 pixel high screens

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMGL85705-IMGL85706%201200.jpg

This for 1440 pixel high screens

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMGL85705-IMGL85706%201440.jpg

I'm keen to find out if anyone finds it impossible or a strain or
really easy to view.

Cheers,

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Rob Studdert (Digital  Image Studio)
Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours
Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio


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PESO My first stereo image

2014-11-08 Thread Rob Studdert
Hi Team,

I decided to attempt to make a stereo image that can be viewed without
aids, I can see it but can you?

The viewing method is to open the image to full screen, face the
screen perpendicularly and centered. Once set up cross your eyes so
that three images appear, then focus on the middle of the three white
dots and relax your eyes, you should then be able to look around the
"middle 3D" image in comfort, if not try adjusting your viewing
distance.

Tech; K3 ISO 100 1/60s + Sigma 18-35/1.8 @ 5.6 + macro slide rail (set
to slide sideways about 75mm) + tripod

This one is for 1200 pixel high screens

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMGL85705-IMGL85706%201200.jpg

This for 1440 pixel high screens

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMGL85705-IMGL85706%201440.jpg

I'm keen to find out if anyone finds it impossible or a strain or
really easy to view.

Cheers,

-- 
Rob Studdert (Digital  Image Studio)
Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours
Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio

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