Re: POLL - Computer Screen Size Resolution (for Mark)
Doug Franklin wrote: William Robb wrote: I do things like font size=+2 and the like if I want to make a header, but otherwise, I don't put font size tags in at all, to allow the individual to choose how big the font will be. Same here, except I typically use 120% or 1.2em or some such. Yep. Both approaches work but I don't allow my students to use old-style HTML 3.2 tags like FONT, so we just use percentages or EMs in stylesheets. It's really challenging for a lot of designers when they start to get into web design to accept that the end user ultimately has control and that you have to be willing to design your pages to work *with* that fact, rather than trying to enforce your design ideas absolutely on users. It's why Buddhists make better web designers ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: POLL - Computer Screen Size Resolution (for Mark)
Mark Roberts wrote: Yep. Both approaches work but I don't allow my students to use old-style HTML 3.2 tags like FONT, so we just use percentages or EMs in stylesheets. I generally don't either. I use style sheets for prettifying but try to make the pages work without the sheet and on a text-only browser, too. It's really challenging for a lot of designers when they start to get into web design to accept that the end user ultimately has control and that you have to be willing to design your pages to work *with* that fact, rather than trying to enforce your design ideas absolutely on users. Some never accept it. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: POLL - Computer Screen Size Resolution (for Mark)
Great phrase! (Mark!) Mark, please, keep teaching what you are teaching! You are doing a great job using the right foundation! (I used your phrase as a quotation for my friends web-programmers.) Igor Fri Apr 6 09:03:56 EDT 2007 Mark Roberts wrote: It's really challenging for a lot of designers when they start to get into web design to accept that the end user ultimately has control and that you have to be willing to design your pages to work *with* that fact, rather than trying to enforce your design ideas absolutely on users. It's why Buddhists make better web designers ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: POLL - Computer Screen Size Resolution (for Mark)
Mark, One important thing to keep in mind for the design of webpages, which is often overlooked by web-designers and even program designers: For large monitors and laptops people like using large (125%) fonts as defined in the Windows display properties. If you do not account for this, you may incorrectly estimate the required width for the text frames for a iven display resolution. (On top of that you should also think about various font sizes choosable in the browsers). Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: POLL - Computer Screen Size Resolution (for Mark)
Igor Roshchin wrote: One important thing to keep in mind for the design of webpages, which is often overlooked by web-designers and even program designers: For large monitors and laptops people like using large (125%) fonts as defined in the Windows display properties. If you do not account for this, you may incorrectly estimate the required width for the text frames for a iven display resolution. (On top of that you should also think about various font sizes choosable in the browsers). The best bet is to never specify absolute sizes or require specific absolute sizes for your site to work. Use the default sizes the user selected with scaling by percentages, eMs, etc. The web is not a print medium; one can't treat it like one is designing or laying out a print ad. Leave the user in control. Unlike those stupid bastards that design their web site using fonts set at 8px or 11px size ... that's 8 or 11 pixels tall. Q: How big is a pixel? A: Pixels aren't any particular size. Some browsers allow the user to forcibly resize even the work of those fatherless gits, but not all browsers do. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: POLL - Computer Screen Size Resolution (for Mark)
- Original Message - From: Doug Franklin Subject: Re: POLL - Computer Screen Size Resolution (for Mark) The best bet is to never specify absolute sizes or require specific absolute sizes for your site to work. Use the default sizes the user selected with scaling by percentages, eMs, etc. The web is not a print medium; one can't treat it like one is designing or laying out a print ad. Leave the user in control. I do things like font size=+2 and the like if I want to make a header, but otherwise, I don't put font size tags in at all, to allow the individual to choose how big the font will be. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: POLL - Computer Screen Size Resolution (for Mark)
William Robb wrote: I do things like font size=+2 and the like if I want to make a header, but otherwise, I don't put font size tags in at all, to allow the individual to choose how big the font will be. Same here, except I typically use 120% or 1.2em or some such. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
