Re: Party pics, Russian-style,

2002-12-19 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
If you start with the political comments again, we will all live to
regret it.

William Robb wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: Lon Williamson
 Subject: Re: Party pics, Russian-style,

 I do wish, though, that any leader who wants to
  start a war would be required to lead the troups, on the
 ground,
  out front, riding a horse and waving a big bright flag.

 I think the world would applaud if you all sent GW off to lead
 the charge into Iraq.
 But please, not on a horse. Horses are too nice to waste that
 way.

 William Robb

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Party pics, Russian-style

2002-12-17 Thread Paul Franklin Stregevsky
My wife is Russian, and our family spent the weekend visiting her relatives
in Brooklyn, New York. Saturday night was the main event, the celebration of
her cousin Ilya's 50th birthday at a Russian restaurant. (The vodka flowed
like water.) 

I went armed with two SLRs: A Super Program and a Ricoh XR-P. About an hour
into the event, I began to have flash problems with both cameras and had to
quit. (The Super Program needed a new camera battery and new AAs in the
flash; the XR-P's dedicated flash was a freebie that I had been told may
work erratically.) 

Just then, the real photographer arrived: a 50-something Russian man
sporting a Nikon digital SLR on a large flash bracket. It's just as well
that I can't shoot anymore, I thought; I wouldn't want to step on his toes. 

Well, this guy took maybe 20 pictures of people dancing and teenage girls
posing by the window. I brought him a stool to stand on to get a better
angle of the dancers, but he declined.

Then he left. No table shots! (I hadn't taken any, either.)

When I asked Ilya why the guy had taken so few shots, he explained how it's
been proven that each time you take someone's picture, you take away part
of their life energy. Whoever owns the print can hurt the person in the
picture by--I dunno--tearing up the photograph. Ilya didn't want a stranger
taking too many pics, not knowing what the photographer might do with them.
Three years earlier, my live-in mother-in-law wouldn't let us keep a candid
I had taken of my older daughter sleeping. It's bad luck to be photographed
while you're sleeping. No wonder these people lost the Cold War.

At around midnight, the photographer returned with mounted 8-by-10 color
prints at $10 each! They were sharp and well-lit, I thought. But several of
the relatives declined, saying that too many flaws showed up in their faces
or that he hadn't posed the girls well. They look like your photographs,
my mother-in-law's sister explained to me. (Hey--I don't claim to be a
pro...or a poser!)

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Re: Party pics, Russian-style

2002-12-17 Thread Keith Whaley
I found that a very interesting slice of life tale...
Thanks for sharing it with us, Paul!

keith whaley

Paul Franklin Stregevsky wrote:
 
 My wife is Russian, and our family spent the weekend visiting her relatives
 in Brooklyn, New York. Saturday night was the main event, the celebration of
 her cousin Ilya's 50th birthday at a Russian restaurant. (The vodka flowed
 like water.)
 
 I went armed with two SLRs: A Super Program and a Ricoh XR-P. About an hour
 into the event, I began to have flash problems with both cameras and had to
 quit. (The Super Program needed a new camera battery and new AAs in the
 flash; the XR-P's dedicated flash was a freebie that I had been told may
 work erratically.)
 
 Just then, the real photographer arrived: a 50-something Russian man
 sporting a Nikon digital SLR on a large flash bracket. It's just as well
 that I can't shoot anymore, I thought; I wouldn't want to step on his toes.
 
 Well, this guy took maybe 20 pictures of people dancing and teenage girls
 posing by the window. I brought him a stool to stand on to get a better
 angle of the dancers, but he declined.
 
 Then he left. No table shots! (I hadn't taken any, either.)
 
 When I asked Ilya why the guy had taken so few shots, he explained how it's
 been proven that each time you take someone's picture, you take away part
 of their life energy. Whoever owns the print can hurt the person in the
 picture by--I dunno--tearing up the photograph. Ilya didn't want a stranger
 taking too many pics, not knowing what the photographer might do with them.
 Three years earlier, my live-in mother-in-law wouldn't let us keep a candid
 I had taken of my older daughter sleeping. It's bad luck to be photographed
 while you're sleeping. No wonder these people lost the Cold War.
 
 At around midnight, the photographer returned with mounted 8-by-10 color
 prints at $10 each! They were sharp and well-lit, I thought. But several of
 the relatives declined, saying that too many flaws showed up in their faces
 or that he hadn't posed the girls well. They look like your photographs,
 my mother-in-law's sister explained to me. (Hey--I don't claim to be a
 pro...or a poser!)
 
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Re: Party pics, Russian-style,

2002-12-17 Thread Gleb Baida
No wonder these people lost the Cold War.

I found the general story funny and the quoted statement offensive. I lived in Russia 
for 31 years and took many pictures and only read in books about something similar 
somewhere overseas. The case you described exsisted, I am sure, but leads to not 
very correct generalization.

I personally thought that we lost that war because of wrong ideology and economy and 
also because of huge losses in the WWII. 

Best regards, 
Gleb Baida, Ph.D.
Russian. 


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Re: Party pics, Russian-style

2002-12-17 Thread Robert Harris


Paul Franklin Stregevsky wrote:





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When I asked Ilya why the guy had taken so few shots, he explained how it's
been proven that each time you take someone's picture, you take away part
of their life energy. Whoever owns the print can hurt the person in the
picture by--I dunno--tearing up the photograph. Ilya didn't want a stranger
taking too many pics, not knowing what the photographer might do with them.



That's an odd one. I spent two years in Russia and married a Russian 
woman. I found that many Russians have a variety of superstitious 
beliefs, but this is one I never heard mentioned. While I was there I 
attended a lot of parties and people took pictures like crazy, and 
nobody ever objected or raised this concern. My wife still takes lots of 
pictures -- at parties, at the office, etc. We have drawers bulgingly 
full of 4x6 prints.

Perhaps it is a regional thing. I was in Moscow and that is where my 
wife is from. Maybe this belief is from another part of the country  -- 
it is a very big place. :)

Bob Harris
New York City



Re: Party pics, Russian-style,

2002-12-17 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Gleb Baida
Subject: Re: Party pics, Russian-style,



 I personally thought that we lost that war because of wrong
ideology and economy and also because of huge losses in the
WWII.

Wasn't the cold war caused by wrong ideology?

William Robb





Re: Party pics, Russian-style,

2002-12-17 Thread Paul Franklin Stregevsky
My apologies (Eezveenee), Gleb.

Gleb Baida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found the general story funny and the
quoted statement offensive. ... The case you described exsisted, I am sure,
but leads to not very correct generalization. ... I personally thought that
we lost that war because of wrong ideology and economy and also because of
huge losses in the WWII.

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