Re: Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED and OT now...

2002-10-19 Thread frank theriault
I do, I do!!

Which is why I didn't comment on it...



-frank

gfen wrote:

> The thing is, do you know what this song is actually about?
>

--
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
fears it is true." -J. Robert
Oppenheimer





OT Paint was Re: Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED and OT now...

2002-10-19 Thread Dan Scott

On Saturday, October 19, 2002, at 10:42  AM, gfen wrote:


Nah, its Saturday now.

I'm supposed to be at home painting, but I'm not... I really don't want 
to
paint, I don';t even know how..

(stalling)


Dear stalling,

We've found that the spilling paint technique works very well—provided 
you use a ridiculously small and entirely unsuitable implement (expired 
credit card, portion of anatomy, etc.) to attempt the cleanup. Remember, 
you'll know when you're done painting once you find yourself quaffing a 
beverage of choice at a location far removed from the scene of the 
"painting".

Dan Scott (home handy man)



Re: Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED and OT now...

2002-10-19 Thread gfen
On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, CBWaters wrote:
> I think he's turning Japanese I think he's turning Japanese I really think
> so.

The thing is, do you know what this song is actually about?

> Well, it IS Friday isn't it?

Nah, its Saturday now.

I'm supposed to be at home painting, but I'm not... I really don't want to
paint, I don';t even know how..

(stalling)




Re: Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED

2002-10-19 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
Were they were manufacturing telecommunications equipment there? Maybe it's
a warehouse now.

BR


- Original Message -
From: "Frits Wüthrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Isn't Toronto located in Canada? Celestica is there, a company specialised
in
> electronic manufacturing for all kind of companies around the globe. They
> design it, Celestica buils it.
> --
> Frits Wüthrich
>




Very off topic was: Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED

2002-10-19 Thread Feroze Kistan

- Original Message -
From: "Brad Dobo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED


> Oh, can't help but to reply to this!
>
> Feroze,
>
>
> > From all the comments that I received about this lens 98% was positive.
> > It was I think a economic decision more than anything as well as some
> > bi-lateral investment agreement that I can't remember all the deatils of
> > right now.
>
> Are you speaking to the FA 80-320mm?  I may have to shop around quick for
> one.

I am only aware of one, is there others. From all the people I spoke theres
in that range
a 80-200, 100-300 (which I was warned to avoid)
>
> > To the best of my knowledge production of new Pentax lenses will be in
> > Vietnam, but research and developement will take place in Japan. Its
hard
> to
> > do research as the press releases are in Japanese. I speak 2 languages
and
> > understand about 16 others, this is not one of them
>
> Vietnam?!?  No offense, but I hope you are wrong, when I've ordered my
> stuff, I tell the guys to make sure that it is stamped 'Made in Japan'.
If
> you are right, no equipment will show up for me :)

Can't find the link right now, but I think it was the popular photography
review
>
> Am I reading that correctly you speak 2 languages and understand 16
others?
> You are a language prodigy!  That's great!  I struggle with one language
:)

I read, write & speak English and Afrikaans, I pray in Arabic, I understand
spoken Tamil, Urdu, Gujarati, Hindi, Telegu (all Indian Langauges) Zulu,
Xhosa, Tswana,
& Funigalo (all African) a bit of German, Dutch and some Sanskrit. South
Africa
has 11 offical langauges and most black people speak all of them fluently.
This is
very very common here. Oh and I understand American Canadian and Australian
english :)
English is not the most common langauge on earth sorry its Mandarin and no I
don't speak that
>
> > A lot of microsoft's software for eg is written in India, of the 16
> "outside
> > germany" BMW plants the 2 South African ones have the highest awards for
> > quality. Most of your brand name clothing like Hugo Boss, purfume etc is
> > made in the Far East. Sony is Japanese but isn't manufactured there.
> Wadia,
> > theta digital, and other American ultra high end audio components are
> > sourced that side as well.
>
> Well well well, no wonder why Windoze sucks :)  Do they hire child labour
> for writing code now?  I thought North America just exploited foreign
> companies.  Like Nike shoes made by children.

Windows sucks cause there isn't an alternative
Levi jeans, spalding basket balls, 89% of the worlds choclate is
made by child slave labour the list is endless.

Most of the code for Windows XP was wriiten in India, the rest by
foreign nationals living in Silcon Valley specially imported by Gates
Its cheaper to pay these people for the same work in their
currency as only the british pound is higher than the dollar
>
> > How many products made in Canada have failed you?
>
> Uhhh...honestly, Canada has no production facilitiesor damn close :)
We
> get by selling wheat to Russian, wood and electricity to the US, other
than
> that, it's all igloos :)
>
> > No I don't have a problem
>
> What problem are you speaking of?
I was talkin on the phone when i typed this, must have typed what I was
saying damm didn't see that
>
> Brad Dobo
>
>




Re: Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED

2002-10-19 Thread Brad Dobo

- Original Message -
From: "Herb Chong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED


> but they do make you take a dogsled handling test at the border when you
> enter. 8-)
>
> Herb

Oh, I forgot the fact we were born with skates on and produce --
manufacture!, the best beer in the world! :)

Don Cherry for Prime Minister!!!

Brad Dobo ;-)





Re: Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED

2002-10-19 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Brad Dobo
Subject: Re: Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED


> I was going to reply when I started seeing the emails come up
about it, I
> was being very tongue-in-cheek and joking.  I was just making
fun of my own
> country and trying to continue the image some have that Canada
is simply all
> ice and snow with Mounties is full uniform using snowshoes to
go from igloo
> to igloo :)

You mean all of Canada isn't like that? I realy must try to see
more of my own country in that case.

William Robb




Re: Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED

2002-10-19 Thread Brad Dobo
I was going to reply when I started seeing the emails come up about it, I
was being very tongue-in-cheek and joking.  I was just making fun of my own
country and trying to continue the image some have that Canada is simply all
ice and snow with Mounties is full uniform using snowshoes to go from igloo
to igloo :)

I am glad however Frank, that you got to it first or I would just have added
to the confusion. :-)

Brad Dobo

- Original Message -
From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED


> Hi, Frits,
>
> I think Brad was being tongue-in-cheek.




Re: Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED

2002-10-19 Thread Herb Chong
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Like I said, I know Brad was just joking, but it does rather feed into the
stereotype that Canada has skiing in the summer, that we all live in Igloos
and
hunt seal meat, and that our largest export is hockey players.  Not that
these
humourous things bother me, but knowing that this list is an international
one, I
wouldn't want anyone getting the wrong impression...

cheers,
frank<

but they do make you take a dogsled handling test at the border when you
enter. 8-)

Herb




Re: Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED

2002-10-19 Thread frank theriault
Hi, Frits,

I think Brad was being tongue-in-cheek.  In fact, Canada has a very strong
manufacturing base, especially here in Southern Ontario (which includes Toronto,
where I live).  The automotive industry is probably our largest, with parts
factories and assembly plants by Toyota, Honda, Suzuki, GM, Ford, Chrysler.
Throw in a few plants in Eastern Quebec (GM, Hyundai), and you have a thriving
industry - albeit, all foreign owned.  But many of the parts plants are Canadian
owned, along with the steel mills, etc.

And, as you mentioned, the high-tech biz is pretty big here (too bad about that
whole Nortel thing though... ).  I'm not up on all that stuff, but along with
Celestica, we've got RIM, Corel, Hummingbird,  Mitel, and of course, branch
plants of all the US majors.

Like I said, I know Brad was just joking, but it does rather feed into the
stereotype that Canada has skiing in the summer, that we all live in Igloos and
hunt seal meat, and that our largest export is hockey players.  Not that these
humourous things bother me, but knowing that this list is an international one, I
wouldn't want anyone getting the wrong impression...

cheers,
frank

Frits Wüthrich wrote:

> Isn't Toronto located in Canada? Celestica is there, a company specialised in
> electronic manufacturing for all kind of companies around the globe. They
> design it, Celestica buils it.
>
> On Saturday 19 October 2002 12:37, Herb Chong wrote:
> > Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > >Uhhh...honestly, Canada has no production facilitiesor damn close :)
> >
> > We
> > get by selling wheat to Russian, wood and electricity to the US, other than
> > that, it's all igloos :)
> > <
> >
> > cars to the US.
> >
> > Herb
>
> --
> Frits Wüthrich

--
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears
it is true." -J. Robert
Oppenheimer





Re: Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED

2002-10-19 Thread Frits Wüthrich
Isn't Toronto located in Canada? Celestica is there, a company specialised in 
electronic manufacturing for all kind of companies around the globe. They 
design it, Celestica buils it.

On Saturday 19 October 2002 12:37, Herb Chong wrote:
> Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >Uhhh...honestly, Canada has no production facilitiesor damn close :)
>
> We
> get by selling wheat to Russian, wood and electricity to the US, other than
> that, it's all igloos :)
> <
>
> cars to the US.
>
> Herb

-- 
Frits Wüthrich




Re: Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED

2002-10-19 Thread Herb Chong
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Uhhh...honestly, Canada has no production facilitiesor damn close :) 
We
get by selling wheat to Russian, wood and electricity to the US, other than
that, it's all igloos :)
<

cars to the US.

Herb




Re: Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED

2002-10-19 Thread Bojidar Dimitrov
William Robb wrote:
> 
> Made in Germany is the only other way to go.
> Sort of the optical axis.

Well, actually, "Made in Switzerland" is even better.  Think of Alpa,
for example...

Cheers,
Boz




Re: Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED and OT now...

2002-10-18 Thread CBWaters
I think he's turning Japanese I think he's turning Japanese I really think
so.
Well, it IS Friday isn't it?

Cory Waters
4 bodies and only the non-Pentax one is several pounds over weight ;)

- Original Message -
From: "Dan Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED


>
> On Friday, October 18, 2002, at 08:59  PM, Brad Dobo wrote:
>
> > Am I biased or ick(rascist) in wanting all my lenses to have 'Made in
> > Japan'
> > on them?  I see it as a signature for quality.  Any other like that or
> > want
> > to comment?
> >
>
> I think it means you are Japanese...
>
> Dan Scott
>
>




Re: Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED

2002-10-18 Thread Dan Scott

On Friday, October 18, 2002, at 08:59  PM, Brad Dobo wrote:


Am I biased or ick(rascist) in wanting all my lenses to have 'Made in 
Japan'
on them?  I see it as a signature for quality.  Any other like that or 
want
to comment?


I think it means you are Japanese...

Dan Scott




Re: Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED

2002-10-18 Thread Brad Dobo
Am I biased or ick(rascist) in wanting all my lenses to have 'Made in Japan'
on them?  I see it as a signature for quality.  Any other like that or want
to comment?

- Original Message -
From: "Feroze Kistan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED


>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Pål Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 5:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED
>
>
> > and moved that production to some low cost country in Asia.
> > We will probably see another zoom in this range soon.
> >
> Its in vietnam, the latest 28-105 lens was the first to be produced
there..
>
> Feroze
>




RE: Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED

2002-10-18 Thread Glen O'Neal
I agree. The 80-320mm is a sharper lens and as a greater range of focal
lengths IMHO.

-Original Message-
From: Brad Dobo [mailto:brad.dobo@;rogers.com]
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 10:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED


> I just got this email from B&H about a lens I was asking about. Could it
be
> true that they are discontinuing the FA 80-320mm and what implications
does
> this have in relation to the newest revelations in Pentax (possible)
product
> line changes?

Not sure on possible product line changes but if they had to cut a zoom like
that they should discontinue the FA 100-300mm, not the 80-320mm




Re: Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED

2002-10-18 Thread Brad Dobo
> I just got this email from B&H about a lens I was asking about. Could it
be
> true that they are discontinuing the FA 80-320mm and what implications
does
> this have in relation to the newest revelations in Pentax (possible)
product
> line changes?

Not sure on possible product line changes but if they had to cut a zoom like
that they should discontinue the FA 100-300mm, not the 80-320mm




Re: Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED

2002-10-18 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 18.10.02 17:00, Glen O'Neal at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I just got this email from B&H about a lens I was asking about. Could it be
> true that they are discontinuing the FA 80-320mm and what implications does
> this have in relation to the newest revelations in Pentax (possible) product
> line changes?
> 
Yes that's true. We should expect soon successor with USM and IS :-P

-- 
Best Regards
Sylwek






Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED

2002-10-18 Thread Glen O'Neal
I just got this email from B&H about a lens I was asking about. Could it be
true that they are discontinuing the FA 80-320mm and what implications does
this have in relation to the newest revelations in Pentax (possible) product
line changes?



Dear Customer

Thank you for your inquiry.

We would like to inform you that the Pentax - PE8032045FA REG - 80-320mm
F4.0-5.6 Lens
you previously registered for notification has been discontinued and will no
longer be
available from B&H.

We look forward to your next visit to our site. Please feel free to let
us know if there's any other way we may assist you.

Thank you,
The B&H Web Team
www.bhphotovideo.com
420 Ninth Avenue
New York, NY 10001, USA
800-606-6969
212-444-6615

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